Where is the Major City or Hangout?

[Khaza-R]

Shitty excuses. Have you followed the story? Have you seen how terribly forced the fighting is? Have you not noticed after every major bad guy npcs tell us that working together is the best way to save the world and destroy the burning legion? Are you even playing the game or just pvping?

Its terribly forced because the writers do a terrible job applying immersive logic to the game. If you sit back disconnected from the story and use modern logic, then of course the war seems stupid. Any real life war would seem stupid too given the same treatment. But again, that's the fault of the writers for not creating a well actualized game setting.

[Falrinn]

Yeah a forced war between factions in a game called Warcraft... Your logic is flawless.

Warcraft doesn't have to refer to the war between the factions, and more often then not it hasn't in WoW.

Burning Crusade: Main enemies were the Illidari and the Burning Legion. When the factions did interact, they tended to cooperate more then they fought.
Wrath of the Lich King: Faction war was featured in some spots, but in importance to the overall story came in fourth behind the war against the Lich King, the forces of Yogg-Saron, and the Nexus War.
Cataclylsm: Faction war showed up a lot in 1-60 content, but after that only really appeared in the Twilight Highlands. None of the patches featured the faction conflict.
MoP: Faction war was obstinately a central theme, but in practice we spent far more time fighting the Mantid, Mogu, and Sha. 5.1 was probably the only patch that featured a straight Horde vs. Alliance fight as a main theme. 5.2 had it a little, but in the much broader context of defeating the Thunder King. From 5.3 onward the Alliance and Horde were working together against an increasingly tyrannical Garrosh.

In practice most PvP content is tacked on for gameplay purposes and only vaguely justified by the story. Take Tol Barad for example, we spent the whole expansion fighting over the island on the vague idea that it's location was strategic for the war effort.

[ryanmahaffe]

I hate the forced war between factions and miss the shared capitol. I love Dalaran. The shrines in MoP were terrible and I did everything I could to not spend time there.

"forced war" ARE YOU SERIOUS, god forbid 2 factions that hate eachother throughout lore have 2 different cities, i for one love a war going on between the ally and horde, it makes the story more epic.

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Its terribly forced because the writers do a terrible job applying immersive logic to the game. If you sit back disconnected from the story and use modern logic, then of course the war seems stupid. Any real life war would seem stupid too given the same treatment. But again, that's the fault of the writers for not creating a well actualized game setting.

Its not forced because the factions cant get along, you think orcs and humans will ever not hate eachother, in fact those 2 races are probably the main reason the war still goes on. or do you think the worgen will ever fogrive sylvanus, the righting is fine, stop using logic in a damn video game.

[Wrathonia]

ITT: People that don't read quests or pay attention to what happens in game.

[WillFeral]

Warcraft doesn't have to refer to the war between the factions, and more often then not it hasn't in WoW.

Burning Crusade: Main enemies were the Illidari and the Burning Legion. When the factions did interact, they tended to cooperate more then they fought.
Wrath of the Lich King: Faction war was featured in some spots, but in importance to the overall story came in fourth behind the war against the Lich King, the forces of Yogg-Saron, and the Nexus War.
Cataclylsm: Faction war showed up a lot in 1-60 content, but after that only really appeared in the Twilight Highlands. None of the patches featured the faction conflict.
MoP: Faction war was obstinately a central theme, but in practice we spent far more time fighting the Mantid, Mogu, and Sha. 5.1 was probably the only patch that featured a straight Horde vs. Alliance fight as a main theme. 5.2 had it a little, but in the much broader context of defeating the Thunder King. From 5.3 onward the Alliance and Horde were working together against an increasingly tyrannical Garrosh.

In practice most PvP content is tacked on for gameplay purposes and only vaguely justified by the story. Take Tol Barad for example, we spent the whole expansion fighting over the island on the vague idea that it's location was strategic for the war effort.

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The bottom line is the game at it's core is Horde vs. Alliance.

[cdnz19]

honestly at this point anything is better than MoP cities. in fact that whole expansion should just be removed from WoW existence

[Wyrt]

I really hope Karabor will be a proper city and Blizzard doesn't outsource normal city services to the garrison.

[Ryuutora]

As long as it's not like Shrine's then we're good. Shrine wasn't really a Major City if we had to go back to SW to do alot of stuff, it was more like that second house some dad's have to hang their hat.
Examples of what not to do: Engineer only AH, Valor/JP Vendor chilling at the back of a Celestial temple and yet the Shado-Pan representative is in the city (unnecessary npcs), no class or profession trainers (excluding Blacksmithing and First Aid), etc.

[Thelxi]

You can hardly call the shrines "cities". More like a repair vendor with an innkeeper near some portals.

[greeeed]

is there going to be a major city or hangout for this expansion?
Getting a little sick of Stormwind and I miss Shattrath and Dalaran.

there must always be Stormwind City

for example in this expansion it should be Shrine of Seven Stars but most people stay in SW
it could be because it's small city but so was Dalaran

[Tierbook]

there must always be Stormwind City

for example in this expansion it should be Shrine of Seven Stars but most people stay in SW
it could be because it's small city but so was Dalaran

Dal was interesting though. The shrine was literally just a hole in a mountain side. Not even a good hole like IF but just barely scraping the inside of the mtn.