Jumping to conclusions: 23rd September

[apelsinjuice]

September? Not a chance in hell. I'd say 10th Anniversary at the absolute earliest.

We actually know that 6.0 pre patch will be out before 10th Annicersary.

[Teebone]

We actually know that 6.0 pre patch will be out before 10th Annicersary.

I.. actually doubt that now.

[Banthare]

Doesn't this mean the cinematic will be at Gamescom if WoD releases in September?!?!

[Koreche]

Release of normals: Cleared on day 1
Release of HMs the week after normals: Cleared within a week

Unless Mythic is hard as hell and has some gear check plus insane mechanics aka LK 25 HM, you could release the first raid tier together with the game, the mad raiders will be lv 100 within 2 days latest, farm their face off in 5 mans and pop into the first normals LATEST on the weekend.

Like every end boss in MoP has taken more attempts to kill than LK. LK was just tuned super high and had numbered attempts and defile was the bane of having one retard in your group even though it wasnt a hard mechanic. Should have said Insane H 25 rag mechanics.

[Banthare]

Blizzcon can be a teaser for the next xpac with a little legion tease or something(I wish.)

[xanzul]

The definition of rushed...

Rushed would be Wod already being live for months rather than just now starting beta.

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Would you like a year more of SoO?

Blizzard could announce a 2020 release date for Wod and the haters would still claim it is rushed.

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Wrong. Devs said 4-6 weeks will be duration of the prepatch. Read tweets more often.

Also 6.0 is still MoP. 6.0.1 will be WoD, or whichever little number they use at the end.

I like how this argument comes up every expansion. No. That isn't how it works.

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I knew it would release in September months ago, you know when people were arguing about a spring or summer release. I am very surprised at the people surprised at this.

People had good reason to believed Blizzard intended on a spring release and actually had facts to back them up as opposed to the "hurr durr expansions are for holiday sales like always" crowd.

[xanzul]

yeah - they also said we would have WoD by now - you should read forums more often.



6.x = The first part of WoD... no arguments, that is the straight facts.

So which pre expansion patch lasted for more than 6 week? Right.

[moremana]

I always said, September release....and I am always right!!

[xanzul]

As the article notes, it might be a placeholder. The date given is likely the earliest WoD could release and they want to make sure they're ready. We always get two month's notice of release, so this could easily change once it is official.

It may be a placeholder but if Wod doesn't come out sometime in Sept/Oct then when? They aren't going to release it too near to Blizzcon as it is typically all hands on deck at Blizzard for that. After Blizzcon is over, Thanksgiving is coming up not to mention the 10 year anniversary of Wow and 15 year anniversary of Warcraft so that would mean the next window of opportunity for release would be December and the issue with that is they take 2 weeks off for Christmas. I'm sorry I just don't see Blizzard waiting that long or longer to get Wod out especially as it would result in Siege being the first raid tier to last a full year or longer.

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They said they planned to have wod out 2 years after mop. September 24th would mean they'd beat it by 1 day.
They said they'd try to make siege shorter than icc, september 24th would mean they'd be 4 days later. which is acceptable.

Also 6.x isn't the first patch of wod, no matter how you twist and turn it, wod does not start counting untill the mini hotfix is sent and that has always been patch 6.0.x which happens at 23h59 globally. Content inside game files wise, you are correct, but pratically you are incorrect.

Blizzard never said any such thing. In fact they said repeatedly they wanted to get expansions on an 18 month cycle. I don't give a fuck if they haven't been able to do it yet or if they always say it, it is just getting tiresome seeing people blatantly lie about things Blizzard did say and then make up complete bullshit to support it.

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I would argue that the new models, squish and ability changes are huge selling points of WoD.
Due to the expansion not having much else.

We get all of those things regardless of whether we have Wod or not. It isn't a selling point of Wod, it is a selling point of the entire game. People don't play the expansion, they play Wow.

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Because everybody and their mother goes to Blizzcon right

A majority of Blizzard employees do, yes. You don't see how that could impact a November release?

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Don't get you hopes up for sept 23 that is most likely a place holder for first day fall as is the dec placer on the wow sit plus if was going to drop then they need to have the cinimatamic finsh and ready to show soon and give the offical date withen the next 20 days I don't see either happening. From what I herd on youtube from those in beta the game is bad shape dc every few min. Unfinished texture and quest are broken. Now they could have build that stable out but doubtful.

Blizzard can release the trailer at any time. It has no bearing on the release date of Wod. Where do you people get this stuff?

Of course beta has technical issues, it is beta. Also the only thing we know is what is available to a small number of players and no content beyond level 92 is even open for testing yet not to mention the fact that developers are typically many, many builds ahead of what is on beta realms. Come on there have been 4 expansions at this point with a 5th in the works. This should all be common knowledge to any regular on these forums.

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No that is the definition of being barely on time.
Any more, and its late.

Rushed is if WoD came out 3 months ago.

yeh any later than september will make it late tbh

[High Marshal Sigismund]

That would be dumb. Not many people would complain if it released a month later, say October 23rd, and that extra month could be used for further polish. I thought Blizzard was about being done when it's done, not releasing in a hurry? Not that I put any stock in the OP release date.

[xanzul]

if thats the release date they will announce it in about 3 weeks, seeing how bad the beta is right now no way, atleast 5 more months before release.

but i guess it could be true, if you count the public alpha it would still be around 4 months of public testing which is not that much shorter compared to MoP.

Because we totally haven't seen 4 expansions worth of betas in "bad shape" and then suddenly get a majority of the issues worked out in a matter of weeks before. Once beta starts Blizzard tends to get a lot done in a very small amount of time.

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September? Not a chance in hell. I'd say 10th Anniversary at the absolute earliest.

Considering Blizzard typically takes the last half of December off for the holidays that would be rather foolish.

[apelsinjuice]

I thought Blizzard was about being done when it's done, not releasing in a hurry? Not that I put any stock in the OP release date.

That changed like 4 years ago when they needed to think about their share holders and paying subscribers.

[xanzul]

Doesn't this mean the cinematic will be at Gamescom if WoD releases in September?!?!

Why does it need to be released in a certain time frame prior to the expansion release? Again where do you people get this stuff?

[huth]

Yes. It is how it works. WoD is not out until the boxes are in stores and being sold. 6.0 can come whenever they feel like releasing it and can stay for as long as it wants, it's not WoD until they activate Draenor content.

So what are you gonna do if Blizzard decides to do away with boxes?

Besides, 6.0 changes your client to WoD. You might not be able to access it, but you've got the full WoD client at that point.

[xanzul]

That would be dumb. Not many people would complain if it released a month later, say October 23rd, and that extra month could be used for further polish. I thought Blizzard was about being done when it's done, not releasing in a hurry? Not that I put any stock in the OP release date.

Where are people getting this idea Wod is being rushed? Alpha lingered for literally forever. That is pretty much the complete opposite of rushed.

[Haven2011]

They release the cinimatamic withen a month or two of release they even where ask about a while go and they said it be a least shown close launch. And for sept to be ptr 6.0 would need to be up this week or next in order to be out in Aug. And yea they maybe a head a few builds but that don't mean we close to launch hell the intro event is fully finshed yet still need textures and some models aren't done. Plus I don't see beta being done I two months consider raid testing have even started yet and that surely take three months to get tune and fixed. You guy are way to hopeful in this.

[Tradu]

I really hope that's not the real release date, but if it is, that explains why they're cutting so much. I would be absolutely fine with waiting until November/December if it means they can stop cutting features.

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Where are people getting this idea Wod is being rushed? Alpha lingered for literally forever. That is pretty much the complete opposite of rushed.

They're quite clearly rushing now that they're getting close to some deadline we don't know, that's why they have to cut so many features.

[xanzul]

That changed like 4 years ago when they needed to think about their share holders and paying subscribers.

There is no profit or shareholders if there are no customers. Are you implying that Blizzard is both greedy and dumb? Releasing crap hurts profits and results in lost customers so if Blizzard were truly as greedy as people claim then they would be bending over backwards to make sure they lost neither customers nor profit.

[xanzul]

So what are you gonna do if Blizzard decides to do away with boxes?

Besides, 6.0 changes your client to WoD. You might not be able to access it, but you've got the full WoD client at that point.

I think it ended up being that more digital copies of Mop sold than physical copies (which more than a few haters twisted around to claim no one bought Mop). Many game developers are moving away from physical media so I wouldn't be surprised if Blizzard cut them out entirely for regular editions and only have the boxes for collectors editions.