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    Quote Originally Posted by Sahugani View Post
    so, always act under the assumption that your SO, the one you love so dearly, will turn into the worst kind of person, barely fit for being called a human, later on?

    Yeah, that'll make for some healthy relationships I'm sure.
    Or you know, don't tape yourself fucking your SO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickybrighteyes View Post
    good thing you're not in charge... leaking a video carrying the same weight as rape would get out of hand.
    Isn't rape and molestation porn pretty big in Japan? As long it's all fake I couldn't care less what kind of porn is out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sahugani View Post
    so, always act under the assumption that your SO, the one you love so dearly, will turn into the worst kind of person, barely fit for being called a human, later on?

    Yeah, that'll make for some healthy relationships I'm sure.
    ^ That guy here gets it. If because of some fucked up assholes any relationship is stained by an inherent and seemingly expected mistrust, then by all means, I don't want a relationship anymore.
    Of course one can only ever judge another person by what he/she does, and maybe never get a full picture, but it's a natural part of any relationship, not just romantic ones. That's what unspoken rules are for: They make trusty interactions possible. And if it is necessary (what it obviously is), making those rules explicit and enforcing them is the right thing to do. Not primarily for punishment, but for reassuring everyone else, that their trust and good intent is protected by society in case it is violated by a questionable individual.

    To those "don't date assholes" people: People can be VERY deceptive, and even the most skilled and trained psychologists can have trouble seeing through someone. Let alone if chemistry plays a role and clouds your view. The latter being a natural and perfectly normal response, for which no one should be blamed for, as one can't really help it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    It's more of a freedom of a press challenge that would be interesting to see how things fare. Or in states that are one-party consent.

    I'm not arguing for one way or another, it'd just be interesting to see what grounds it stands on.
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    I think there was already exceptions against freedom of the press for obscene content. It is the reason that broadcast TV cannot show sex related things. The question is whether a topless picture of your ex is obscene, or if a full blown homemade porno movie is obscene, or both. To me they would both be obscene but I dont think obscene should limit a freedom either. I would just choose not to look at it rather than force others to not look at it either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barnabas View Post
    Still don't see something that adds no social value that is intended to harm someone as being protected under free press either.
    Guess it depends on what the viewers opinion of social value is. Its a great social value to people who like porn Id suppose

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bigzoman View Post
    Saw this article on the Economist today.


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    Throwing a lawsuit at the people is a great start that should be done, but i'm thinking jail time should be thrown in as well.
    Well the first rule of porn is: it's not real. If it says it's real, it's especially not real.

    But it is depressing that it happens at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    It's also usually a crime.
    Depends on where its filmed. If youre filming it in a public place or a place where you could easily be seen by the public (such as in your back yard with no fence) then it would not be a crime. If it was in your home, then it would be a crime. There have plenty of court cases where someone sued because someone videotaped them but the cases were unsuccessful because its deemed that you should have no expectation of privacy in public settings (which I also think is BS)

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilSaihah View Post
    TIL you can prevent others from taking pictures of you while sleeping
    And how much porn can that be? Unless he puts his "weener" on her face and sings tralala?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarac View Post
    Or you know, don't tape yourself fucking your SO.
    That would be record, I don't think many people use tape any more.

    If someone caught of video of me doing it, they'd prolly laugh. Or feel pity. Or possible both. So it's no big deal.
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    Got to be pretty naive to get yourself in that situation in the first place.

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    dont record it in first place - here u go problem solved - unless u know u gonna break up anyway and thats why u record so that u have some material to fap when ull be single again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisberb View Post
    LOTS of people send dirty selfies, this would fall under the same category..and they're much more common than full on sex tapes.
    lots of people are idiots - if lot of people were jumping into fire would u follow them ?

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    I don't care since I assume most of those girls knew they were getting filmed and/or getting their pictures taken.

    You can't fight against human stupidity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bigzoman
    How should we handle "revenge porn"?
    I think revenge porn is 100% fine. You can't really fault someone if you send them naked pictures/video or let them video tape you having sex, and then they put it on the internet after you break up.

    We live in the world of social media sharing, where people talk about how big their shits were or how jealous they are of their friends stuff. Facebook statuses are updated constantly with the most inane garbage that no one should ever know about you, yet it's accessible worldwide by anyone. Tweets are sent out about the most random and mundane shit, as if we're all supposed to be impressed by your run of the mill life and your average Joe opportunities.

    We get to see how risque you are with your almost nude instagram pictures! If only you showed a little more skin!

    Sorry, but I have zero sympathy for anyone who knowingly allowed nude pictures or video be taken by anyone else, with or without consent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miuku View Post
    That would be record, I don't think many people use tape any more.

    If someone caught of video of me doing it, they'd prolly laugh. Or feel pity. Or possible both. So it's no big deal.
    If youre going to do it, tape would be the best way, well film actually, as the average Joe isnt going to know how to convert 8mm film to a digital format to put on the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orlong View Post
    If youre going to do it, tape would be the best way, well film actually, as the average Joe isnt going to know how to convert 8mm film to a digital format to put on the internet.
    If someone is that paranoid about it in the first place...it's probably best to just not do it.
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    I find it very strange how posters in this topic advocate trust above all else even calling being careful "paranoid". In a topic about combating revenge porn. What.

    Let me break it down for you. You trust someone when you know them well. It does not mean blindly following their every whim. If i know that my SO won't do such a thing even if we break up, I have no problem making a video if he/she wants it. If i know my SO is prone to fits of anger and likes to get back at people, i probably won't make one.

    "You will not make a porn tape with me? DO YOU NOT LOVE ME? WE ARE OVER!" If that kind of menial thing would ruin the trust in your relationship and the relationship itself, well, it was coming anyways.

    And if you don't know your SO very well yet, maybe you just met and decided to go out on a whim, maybe it is not the time to bring out the really kinky stuff yet.

    In the end - if you misjudge someone, that is a lesson to yourself "i now know i am a poor judge of character, ill learn from it, conduct myself better and my next relationship will be better and more stable".

    Also, times like this if a genie appeared before me and said i have one wish, i would probably not think it through and just blurt out - I wish the concept of victim blaming wouldn't exist. If someone else does a bad thing to you, punishing them is only the first step - nowadays people with their lax lifestyles are forgetting to improve themselves, and when others discuss how to learn from their mistakes and suggesting bettering oneself to them as well just scream "victim blaming!" and go back to life of complacency. If humanity ever achieves a world of no crime, it will be not because all the criminals were punished, but because there are no more people to exploit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulscorch View Post
    And how much porn can that be? Unless he puts his "weener" on her face and sings tralala?
    Most people aren't comfortable being recorded naked while asleep, for that video to then end up on the internet. It doesn't have to be hardcore porn for it to have a devastating affect on peoples lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy181 View Post
    It's really hard for me to feel bad for anyone who has their naked photos/videos sent out into the world when they willingly gave said photo to their SO (boyfriend, girlfriend, fiance, wife, husband, whatever). It's just like the engagement ring. The man doesn't get that back, it was a gift.

    If you chose to make a gift of porn to your SO... that's your choice. Don't be surprised if they use the gift in a manner you didn't think they would later on down the road.

    People need to realize that when/if they break up, it's probably due to the person being a DIFFERENT person than they were originally.

    You don't meet a guy, decide he's the sweetest guy in the world, give him tons of porn featuring you, and then suddenly break up with him because "Oh, well, I was looking for someone a little less charming." No, you or your SO have changed as people and drifted apart. Depending on how well you both handle the breakup, it's obvious that one party or the other may try to "get back" at you.

    I'd never give my wife pictures or videos of me that I wouldn't be OK with her having forever. I love her dearly, and hope we don't go through a divorce but if we do, I know it's because one of us have changed. She or I one wouldn't be the same people we are now and since I don't know the person she may become, I'm not comfortable giving that possible future person access to something that could be so damaging.

    Anybody who tells you they need some video/photos of you in the nude to keep themselves happy or whatever is someone you REALLY don't want to be with.
    This is the smartest thing in this thread.

    why do we live in this world where youngsters and teens expect no consequences for things? you do something you regret.. and now somebody ELSE is at fault?...

    people need some goddamn accountability, if you get your business out for somebody. you need to accept that it can be seen by ANYBODY. just because you think that person smells of roses at that moment in time.

    absolutely ridiculous..

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    I think the only way to have a law to stop this from happening is to focus on the malicious intent towards the other person rather than focus on the privacy/nude photos, so instead of trying to legislate against "revenge porn" we should probably be legislating against malicious actions against a previous partner.

    Both are still really hard to prove, you can claim pretty much anything, that you left your phone somewhere and someone took them, that someone accessed your computer, that someone stole your dropbox password, unless they can pinpoint some IP address to the guy/girl at the point of share there is basically nothing that can be done, also at the speed which people share stuff online, when you find your picture on some random forum it has probably been shared 1000 times already.

    Basically my advice is, dont allow pictures/videos to be taken if you dont accept the risk that it might be shared online, if things go south.

    That or when you allow yourself to be photograph also take photographs so if they post yours you can post theirs :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bigzoman View Post
    Saw this article on the Economist today.


    http://www.economist.com/news/intern...iserymerchants



    Throwing a lawsuit at the people is a great start that should be done, but i'm thinking jail time should be thrown in as well.
    Depending on how grievously it was done, anything from a stiff fine to imprisonment, I'd say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldazzar View Post
    This is the smartest thing in this thread.

    why do we live in this world where youngsters and teens expect no consequences for things? you do something you regret.. and now somebody ELSE is at fault?...

    people need some goddamn accountability, if you get your business out for somebody. you need to accept that it can be seen by ANYBODY. just because you think that person smells of roses at that moment in time.

    absolutely ridiculous..
    It's not about it being everyone else s fault, it's about making a huge mistake, but not being punished disproportionately for it for the rest of your life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eroginous View Post
    I think revenge porn is 100% fine. You can't really fault someone if you send them naked pictures/video or let them video tape you having sex, and then they put it on the internet after you break up.

    We live in the world of social media sharing, where people talk about how big their shits were or how jealous they are of their friends stuff. Facebook statuses are updated constantly with the most inane garbage that no one should ever know about you, yet it's accessible worldwide by anyone. Tweets are sent out about the most random and mundane shit, as if we're all supposed to be impressed by your run of the mill life and your average Joe opportunities.

    We get to see how risque you are with your almost nude instagram pictures! If only you showed a little more skin!

    Sorry, but I have zero sympathy for anyone who knowingly allowed nude pictures or video be taken by anyone else, with or without consent.
    How can you knowingly allow someone to take nude photos without consent, you wouldn't be allowing it.

    As to the rest of your post, I pretty much agree, everyone knows that if you take a dirty photo or video, theres a chance it will end up on the internet, and once it's spread across the Internet, you'll never be able to remove it, and if your okay with that, great, do your business, but don't moan when someone spreads your shit.

    This is about money for more people than not, the things people can and do sue each other for is ridiculous, it needs to stop.

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