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    Honestly; I mean I couldn't give much of a crap about football either but surely watching the game is a better use of your time here?
    I actually hope Argentina wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamyz View Post
    No of course not, but they are not actively inclusive either - and just like in the above example, they could win more by making sure they are, instead of just ignoring it and continuing their slumber.

    And perhaps as a bonus, we'd get a better game.
    "We just aren't getting the applications" "WELL MAYBE YOU NEED TO MAKE YOURSELF GET THE APPLICATIONS!" Lol. Really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skalm View Post
    All you have to do is watch the news...
    Give me an example. It should be easy then. What is it in the news that tells us that gay people want to be treated better than straight people? Is it when they want the right to marry? Is it when they don't want to be discriminated against for being gay? Is it maybe when a kid can't tell her parents she's gay because she's afraid of losing the financial support of her parents and needs to resort to crowdfunding in order to keep going to college? Because these are the only news I hear.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Protar View Post
    Representation in the media influences real world representation and visa versa.
    provide examples.
    r.i.p. alleria. 1997-2017. blizzard ruined alleria forever. blizz assassinated alleria's character and appearance.
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  6. #3006
    Quote Originally Posted by AeneasBK View Post
    Doesn't the market reseach think they should though?
    Transgendered and women do not make a core demographic of the MMO market. They don't even make a core demographic of the console or PC markets. They do not constitute a core demographic of the CCG market, either. Blizzard has basically no stake in their happiness, and they aren't going to risk angering their actual core demographic (males, nominally white) to try and cater to a foreign demographic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    So if you start presenting them with a full white straight male cast even they'll start to feel like something just feels too weird.
    WoW doesn't have that.

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    Completely agree with the letter. When I was younger I didn't notice this. Now that I am older I am bit fed up with the same straight white male hero.

  9. #3009
    Quote Originally Posted by WarlordsofDraenor View Post
    Lovely.

    He replies to idiots who create issues out of thin air in an environment that has nothing to do with them, and ignores his actual customers who are angered over changes like Capital city changes and are consistently ignored with no line of communication.

    This is probably the best thing i've ever read on this forum. That might not be saying much though, facts given, but anyhow: I salute you sir.

  10. #3010
    Going out of their way to include a minority group just to appease them risks the integrity of the game. People keep saying cause it would make them more money, let's look at Square Enix for example. Square tried to take the Final Fantasy franchise and broaden its appeal to the entire world, to make more money, and in doing so ended up losing tons of money and ruining what made Square Enix a household name among the rpg community.

  11. #3011
    Why don't these people argue against actual "anti-inclusive" settings. Tolkien's Middle-Earth was written by notoriously catholic white man who believed in Bible and as such as was against this stuff.

    That would actually be reasonable, real target instead of just this current "Well there's not been any reliably yet so thus they are anti-inclusive" idiocity.
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  12. #3012
    This is really annoying and I'm really tired of seeing crap like this.
    They always talk about the female characters that get screwed over but never the other ones.

    So for female players we have Kerrigan who yes got screwed over by Mengsk but is a complete and total badass. We also have Nova, Mira, Jaina (and don't dare tell me she's not a badass either), Alexstraza, Ysera, etc etc.
    Plenty of black characters too. Gabriel Tosh, General Warfield, Tyrael, etc (In WoW there are very few and is worth the complaint there, however not in the other series)

    This is just more crying from babies that want and expect the world to cater to them. I wouldn't have even bothered writing back to her if I was him.

  13. #3013
    Quote Originally Posted by Velnora View Post
    Going out of their way to include a minority group just to appease them risks the integrity of the game. People keep saying cause it would make them more money, let's look at Square Enix for example. Square tried to take the Final Fantasy franchise and broaden its appeal to the entire world, to make more money, and in doing so ended up losing tons of money and ruining what made Square Enix a household name among the rpg community.
    Going out of their way to appeal to the majority and alienating their core also hurts em. MoP arguably was a push to appeal to the Asian market, with mediocre success. I'm just glad WoD goes back to a classic story at least.

  14. #3014
    Quote Originally Posted by WarlordsofDraenor View Post
    Lovely.

    He replies to idiots who create issues out of thin air in an environment that has nothing to do with them, and ignores his actual customers who are angered over changes like Capital city changes and are consistently ignored with no line of communication.
    I can't think of a better example of creating an issue out of thin air than that capital city complaining.

  15. #3015
    Quote Originally Posted by Thimagryn View Post
    Going out of their way to appeal to the majority and alienating their core also hurts em. MoP arguably was a push to appeal to the Asian market, with mediocre success. I'm just glad WoD goes back to a classic story at least.
    You could argue that, if you weren't particularly bright. Complaining about imaginary asian pandering but o.k. with a retarded ass time travel story?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyriaa View Post
    This is really annoying and I'm really tired of seeing crap like this.
    They always talk about the female characters that get screwed over but never the other ones.

    So for female players we have Kerrigan who yes got screwed over by Mengsk but is a complete and total badass. We also have Nova, Mira, Jaina (and don't dare tell me she's not a badass either), Alexstraza, Ysera, etc etc.
    Plenty of black characters too. Gabriel Tosh, General Warfield, Tyrael, etc (In WoW there are very few and is worth the complaint there, however not in the other series)

    This is just more crying from babies that want and expect the world to cater to them. I wouldn't have even bothered writing back to her if I was him.
    No no no, you see, the complaints are is that all of these characters are just too attractive, apparently.
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    Kaleredar is right...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilian View Post
    Why don't these people argue against actual "anti-inclusive" settings. Tolkien's Middle-Earth was written by notoriously catholic white man who believed in Bible and as such as was against this stuff.

    That would actually be reasonable, real target instead of just this current "Well there's not been any reliably yet so thus they are anti-inclusive" idiocity.
    Do you see the difference between an MMO that is currently being worked on, and a book written almost a century ago, by a person that is now dead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nindoriel View Post
    Do you see the difference between an MMO that is currently being worked on, and a book written almost a century ago, by a person that is now dead?
    I see little reason for Blizzard to bend their story just to "appease" whatever group people think "should be in the spotlight." Blizzard is going to write their story the way they're going to write it. And it doesn't need to be some "overarching allegory of the search for equal rights." It's a fun fantasy story about humans and dwarves and wolf men and talking skeletons and green monster men.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    Those who see no reason to stay modern become outdated.
    Or become timeless. >.>
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    You can't fight porn on the internet, you may as well declare war on something overwhelming like water on Earth's surface - or something ephemeral like "terror" (lol sorry, had to do it) - or something both overwhelming and ephemeral... like porn on the internet.

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    Or become timeless. >.>
    Or become infinite

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