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    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    I guess Star Wars is for the sub 10 year old demographic now.
    1.) Because Clone Wars was all the time super mature? They already killed a handful of Troopers in these first scenes. Sorry that there was no blood or body parts lying around or that no one is reminiscent of his horrible and brutal back story in which his whole family was murdered. I like gritty and dark movies just like the next guy, but it should be in the right context. And if you don't like the kid or the witty one-liners (or the colorful characters in form of Zeb and Sabine), I certainly do not know why you watch Star Wars anyway?

    2.) It's a cartoon show for a broad audience, primarily for children/teenager. Both Clone Wars and SW Rebels were never aimed at an older target group. Star Wars generally has a lot to do with merchandising because kids rather tend to buy toys than some men-children. The producers still acknowledge that also older people watch the show. I don't think that you watch the new CGI Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle show, but they recently had an episode which referred to "Big Trouble in Little China". This is the perfect example of a small nod to the older audience.

    If you have not seen the first episodes, why bother anyway to post your shallow opinion except to show how mature you are? You're post is missing a "It's all Disney's fault" sentence I won't really discuss this further on because I simply think it's a matter of openness to something new. Just count it as a general statement to all of these "Star Wars before was sooo mature but now its for babies".

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    Blame disney for aladin. However his face makes sense due too living on desert planet.
    Nah, I think they just want him to be more exotic with his blue eyes/hair instead of the typical whitey-white Star Wars human. Besides Lando and Mace Windu, the majority of people look quite the same (Obi Wan, Anakin, Padme, Han, etc.) and because Rebels' crew is focusing on a diverse aspect, it makes sense in my opinion. Plus I don't know why someone would have an issue if he looks like Aladdin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    I guess Star Wars is for the sub 10 year old demographic now.

    When wasn't it. Pretty sure Star Wars has always been for all ages.
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    When wasn't it. Pretty sure Star Wars has always been for all ages.
    I didn't say all ages, I said it was targeting specifically a 10 year old audience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocktan View Post
    1.) Because Clone Wars was all the time super mature? They already killed a handful of Troopers in these first scenes. Sorry that there was no blood or body parts lying around or that no one is reminiscent of his horrible and brutal back story in which his whole family was murdered. I like gritty and dark movies just like the next guy, but it should be in the right context. And if you don't like the kid or the witty one-liners (or the colorful characters in form of Zeb and Sabine), I certainly do not know why you watch Star Wars anyway?

    2.) It's a cartoon show for a broad audience, primarily for children/teenager. Both Clone Wars and SW Rebels were never aimed at an older target group. Star Wars generally has a lot to do with merchandising because kids rather tend to buy toys than some men-children. The producers still acknowledge that also older people watch the show. I don't think that you watch the new CGI Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle show, but they recently had an episode which referred to "Big Trouble in Little China". This is the perfect example of a small nod to the older audience.

    If you have not seen the first episodes, why bother anyway to post your shallow opinion except to show how mature you are? You're post is missing a "It's all Disney's fault" sentence I won't really discuss this further on because I simply think it's a matter of openness to something new. Just count it as a general statement to all of these "Star Wars before was sooo mature but now its for babies".
    1. The Clone Wars was a decent show for some seasons and part of the reason that was the case was because the dialogue and the areas the show took place were really good looking. From that video and the first episode, everything in Rebels just looks so bland and all the models look fake like toys. Especially the stormtroopers.

    2. I seriously don't think this show is for anyone who watched Clone Wars or anything Star Wars at all. I think this show is meant to get little kids to watch more Star Wars by introducing it to them on TV. I get the point is to sell merchandise, I don't think you are exactly proving me wrong by saying that.

    3. Stop calling me out on shit I didn't say, I never blamed Disney, I don't care about fucking Disney. I did go ahead and watch the first episode because what you said made me rage to myself and my opinion still stands, this is a show for little kids that is designed to get them into Star Wars. The action is so slow compared to Clone Wars and the characters aren't nearly as interesting even though all the Clone Wars characters were the butchered ones from the prequel films.

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    I'm sorry I always forget, I mean THE Clone Wars not the other Samurai Jack looking one or whatever. That other one is still a lot better than Rebels though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    I didn't say all ages, I said it was targeting specifically a 10 year old audience.

    Pretty sure this is still targeted for all ages.
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    I just watched the first episode. I am mixed on this. Star wars clone wars started off very light hearted, but we had the carnage of krell kind of episodes. So it's too soon to judge, but I liked the old style of 3d models.
    I liked The cowboy jedi, Zeb, astromech, hera, and the kid. I didn't enjoy the mandalorian girl. I get they want to appeal to children, and I am fine about it. But having a mandalorian with angsty dyed hair and spray painting graffiti like you see the rebellious teens is a little problematic for me. By now the new mandalorian (clone wars) Lifestyle is gone, and the old warrior culture would be emerging.

    I feel the biggest problem is that there is no Soldier archetype like how fives, echo and Rex used to fill.

    I just think it just needs one extra layer of dark to it, and have more innocent/allied casualties. Then again once they get allies to rebel, they can. Hopefully they do.

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    I think once darth vader makes an appearance, things will get dark. Ahsoka is likely gonna do a obi wan and sacrifice herself to him for the others. How they handle darth vader will give a good indicator how dark they are willing to get. Darth vader is a killing machine.

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    Personally Agent Kallus is an okay villain. I just feel he needs to given him a more ruthless edge outside of kicking a stormtrooper to his death. I think killing a civilian would of worked.
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    Eh, can't be worse than the prequels really.

    Don't care for the art style, at least not for something set in the Rebellion era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    I guess Star Wars is for the sub 10 year old demographic now.
    You didn't see the prequels?
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    Have to say I quite liked it for the first episode but to judge an entire show based off on one episode is foolish. Guys, just let it flesh out, I'm considering to just let the show go on for a few years and then chain watch it down the line when more of it is out.

    We'll get used to the art style in time, that I'm sure of.
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    1. I loved the different planets/ environment in Clone Wars as well and I also thought Rebels lacked this graphic quality. But I do believe that Rebels just needs some time to get there.

    2. If you go to a Lego or toy store, you will see plenty of stuff that is based on Clone Wars. There are even Clone Wars Lego episodes. That's the way Star Wars was always based on. They included Ewoks in RoftJ just to sell more toys. But I thought there were some really nice nods to the older movies in Rebels and that's what I really liked. To me, Star Wars is 50% big, intergalactic warfare and 50% a group of different people experiencing adventures and growing together as a family (awww sounds cute ).

    3. Good Sir I did not call you on shit you didn't say. I wrote "you miss a" and rounded it up with a smiley. I was not directly addressing you but rather people in general who have this issue.

    Well, for the action and characters I have a different opinion, especially because I thought almost everyone in the prequels were unlikable except for Obi Wan and the Clone Troopers. And with the Inquisitor (voiced by the awesome Jason Isaacs), they will certainly have some darker stories to tell.

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    Did not hate the first episode atleast, but the wookies looked really weird for me, especially the child one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mear View Post
    Did not hate the first episode atleast, but the wookies looked really weird for me, especially the child one.
    The kid wookiee looked like this :

    "Je vous répondrai par la bouche de mes canons!"

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    Hm episode 2 was not that bad.
    Little spoiler:
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    I'm actually liking it so far. It's entertaining.

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    Best cameo ever!


    I thought it was also okay with some minor flaws.
    I didn't really understand C3PO's betrayal because in the end, I had the impression that he knew what was up. Organa probably only told R2 about the plan because C3PO is too chatty but it was a little bit forced to me in order to get a final action scene. And why aren't they using the weapons first and then destroy them...

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    This is going to be like Clone Wars, I can tell already. Kallus is in essence the General Grievous and The Inquisitor is more like Dooku from what I've noticed but it's only two episodes and lets see if my speculation will turn out to be correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocktan View Post
    Best cameo ever!


    I thought it was also okay with some minor flaws.
    I didn't really understand C3PO's betrayal because in the end, I had the impression that he knew what was up. Organa probably only told R2 about the plan because C3PO is too chatty but it was a little bit forced to me in order to get a final action scene. And why aren't they using the weapons first and then destroy them...
    I doubt C3-P0 knew anything about the mission at all, except that he had to act as a translator in an imperial transaction. If he knew anything about it, he would have freaked out. When Organa asked him if he told the rebels who he was, he answered "Of course not Senator..." then I didn't understand well what he said, but it didn't sound like Organa to me. Artoo was the only one to know about the real mission and had to carry it out. It seems to me that C3-P0 had a memory wipe (not the first) and recieved the mission to escort an imperial senator to act as an interpretor. So in his mind, he was working for the Empire. Therefore, it was no betrayal to call the Empire for rescue. Organa gave a false name so that if the real mission was to fail, he would not get involved. I'm pretty sure our favorite stilted droid got another memory wipe after that.

    As for the weapons, they did try to use them, but since their prime objective was to destroy them and that their chance of surviving a platoon of stormtroopers and two AT-STs were dim, they had to be expeditive.
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    Show's better than I expected it to be, particularly in regards to the actions. Character designs are pretty good (except those God-awful Wookiees), and the voices work, but...

    EVERYTHING IS TOO BRIGHT AND SHINY!

    I mean, Jesus, the bright colors make everything and everyone look like a plastic toy. In particular, I'm having a really hard time viewed Zeb as the "tough guy" when his overly-bright color-palette makes him look like something you'd pull out of a Happy Meal. Mute the colors a bit and I think it's make a huge improvement for the show.

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    Unfortunately, I also did not completely get what Organa and 3PO said so maybe this was a misunderstanding from my side (English is not my first language ) On second thought, it now reminds me a little bit of Return of the Jedi, when the two droids are in Jabba's palast and 3PO does not completely know about Luke's plan.

    I also get your point about the "prime" objective. I don't want to sound too nit picky, it just was this typical "I would have done it differently" moment . I hope when they start their Jedi training, we get some quieter moments and learn more about the characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Descense View Post
    Blame disney for aladin.
    I'm pretty sure Rebels was in development before the Disney buyout, unless someone has evidence otherwise I doubt they had a direct hand in the character design.

    It's just basic "accessible protagonist for young male power fantasy fiction" stuff.
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    "Who is that kid!?"

    Yeah, uhh... Well, after two episodes, it's not as horrible as I thought. It's clearly a bit childish in the way it's animated. Clone Wars had a kind of a stylistic feel to it, this one doesn't. In Lego terms, I would call Clone Wars actual Legos, and Rebels would be Duplo. The dialogue and plot were also quite shallow and pretty chipper, even when things seemed to be going badly; not much suspense anywhere. In Clone Wars, Anakin had a pretty grim look about him almost constantly; in Rebels everyone is pretty bland. It's definitely the younger brother in the Star Wars animation family. Also, straight off dialogue rip-off from Obi-Wan, almost word for word, from A New Hope... I guess it was attempting to be a homage, of which there were several.

    It's good enough to watch, seeing as though it is Star Wars, after all. I'm curious to see who's voicing Vader;

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    A fun little scooplet: Lucasfilm's #StarWarsRebels will re-air on ABC in primetime on Sunday Oct. 26 w/ new Darth Vader scene cc: @starwars
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    Will James Earl Jones voice? “By order of the Empire, I decline to comment,” a Disney spokeswoman says. #starwarsrebels @starwars
    I'm not sure if James Earl Jones can still pull it off, or whether he would sound way too old... But I really can't think of Vader in any other way.

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