Preliminary WoD stat weights & DK WoD Simcraft updates

[Nangz]

Level 100 with premade gear. All profiles running Blood Tap and Necrotic Plague. Only changes are the t1 talents. DW Frost is using RI and FC since last I heard CG isn't working properly.

Remember, beta is beta is beta is beta. Take it with a giant salt mine.




Edit: oops, forgot to credit Mendenbarr with the majority of the APL work.

[valliant13]

Level 100 with premade gear. All profiles running Blood Tap and Necrotic Plague. Only changes are the t1 talents. DW Frost is using RI and FC since last I heard CG isn't working properly.

Remember, beta is beta is beta is beta. Take it with a giant salt mine.

Honestly don't find this surprising in the least. 2H frost has started out pretty well in the first tier, the question isn't really how our specs stand between themselves but currently where they stand between classes. Unholy will eventually pull ahead I'm sure. However pre-numbers we don't fully know what all specs are truly capable of. I see unholy buffs personally.

[Magdalena]

It is intended to crit as I said, unless Celestalon is trolling.

Correct (on the benefitting from Crit, not the trolling). It should also benefit from Improved Diseases. Remember that internal builds tend to be a few ahead of what is publicly available at time- he may simply have gotten it confused.

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@Nangz which runeforge is 2h frost using in this case?

[Mendenbarr]

Mendenbarr, which runeforges are you using for each specc?

Unholy is using FC, 2H is using RI. and DWF is using RI/FC, as CG hasn't been "buffed" yet.

[Deleted]

Unholy is using FC, 2H is using RI. and DWF is using RI/FC, as CG hasn't been "buffed" yet.

I thought they already added the CG buff? Well god damit then!

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But its there? 5 stacks with the perk

[valliant13]

they are supposed to buff it to be better than that...which I am okay with.

[Mendenbarr]

When I asked Cel, he said they were still working on CG, and that it's not done yet.

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Thank you Mendenbarr for your work, best as always!

[Mendenbarr]

I've updated the engine with a basic set of necrotic plague actions, and fixed RI not critting or MSing. I'm also going away to a convention till monday, but I'll continue when I get back.

Thank you Mendenbarr for your work, best as always!

Thanks!

[Rizendragon]

Well it looks like we're not intended to use CG any more as DW. Kind of disappointing since I was excited to see how they were going to work that out.

[Dkdots]

Well it looks like we're not intended to use CG any more as DW. Kind of disappointing since I was excited to see how they were going to work that out.

I know right, I really thought it would be interesting.

[d00mgiv3r]

Unholy is using FC, 2H is using RI. and DWF is using RI/FC, as CG hasn't been "buffed" yet.

What You mean RI plx? :F I may have missed something

[Mawnix]

I know right, I really thought it would be interesting.

Celestalon said there's something possibly on the horizon, but who knows.

[ThePlanckEnergy]

Those sims seem very far off from the reality I'm seeing on the killable damage dummies in Shattrath (and also raid testing w/ Premade DKs). Particularly, 1h Frost does far, far more damage than the sim is indicating (unless the sim is taking into account some nerfs that aren't live on the beta yet).

[Tyddus]

maybe this is a silly question (been working with mage recently) but how will festerblight interact without snapshotting? a few posts ago someone mentioned that it could possibly push UH higher than current sims are showing but thats where im lost. DK DoTs will be dynamic will they not? Will NP snapshot? Or has festerblight evolved faster than i have kept up? lol

[Shiira]

WoD festerblight just means keeping necrotic plague at 15 stacks, what needs to be optimised is maximising usage of scourge strike during trinkets and festering strike outside of them.

[Tyddus]

hmm shame. im going to miss snapshotting super DoTs. but i still think that sounds like decently engaging gameplay. Has the 2h/dw frost roto changed at any fundemental levels from beta play? sorry for the noobie question. DK is still my secret baby lol

[Shiira]

DW is currently similar to how it was before we stopped using obliterate and soul reaper, but it'll get a lot slower with yesterday's changes.

2h frost is largely unchanged apart from using razorice, as far as I know. It will also get slower.