Entire family turns on and jumps son when he tells them he's gay

[whynotchris]

This was heartbreaking

[draykorinee]

I really don't think you'll find any sturdy Biblical justification for the Crusades. If you can then I have to wonder if you're not of the same mind as the ones you're condemning for having participated in them.

I already supplied them in that quote. If you're not willing to read the bible without choosing to acknowledge only the nice parts, thats your call.

And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death.

Picking and choosing is the way though of course.

[Goradan]

This one has been solved:

Yeah regardless if your a theist or atheist, being Agnostic is better in my own opinion because noting is proven yet.

[Tradewind]

I already supplied them in that quote. If you're not willing to read the bible without choosing to acknowledge only the nice parts, thats your call.

All I did was say to my wife, "That piece of halibut was good enough for Jehovah!"

[Khraine]

The lad made the situation worse by his actions and words. Running your mouth off to your family who will have a hard time accepting you as you are. Or, as in this case in the process of disowning you isn't the the best thing to do. You don't know how they'll react.

Religion doesn't make a person irrational, an irrational person will always be that way with or without faith.

[Nnyco]

i lold when the mother said "son of a bitch" to her own son

the family sounds like they live 200years ago, imo i dont know why religions are still a thing, all they do is twist peoples mind or cause trouble
dunno why not more people see that and still belive in such old things

[RicardoZ]

I already supplied them in that quote. If you're not willing to read the bible without choosing to acknowledge only the nice parts, thats your call.



Picking and choosing is the way though of course.

Ok that's a bit of ancient Jewish law, good to know for history's sake, but let's focus on Christianity since it's the culprit for the crusades. The people who believed the quote you supplied were actually the victims of the violence during the crusades.

I think you know what Jesus's position on stoning people to death was, so this one doesn't really hold up.

[Cassidin]

Yes they have. In private.
Then there's the issue of:

Ignorance, calling it a choice which further cements the hate against lbtq
Their own version of "word of god" over their son's experience

Unfortunately ignorance goes both ways. There is no real way to interpet the bible differently when it clearly says:

God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion (Romans 1:26-27).

I am not saying someone has to abide by that - but it is very clearly writen. This is not someone's "version" of the word of god - but simply what is written in the Bible. People must make their own choice on if they want to follow what is written - but questioning what was written is unhelpful. Of course, if you want to challenge if the Bible is the word of god - thats a different issue - and more than I am willing to get involved in.

Verbal abuse

Where? They both disagreed with each other - and were both as bad as each other in dismissing each others views.

Physical abuse (ish)

I'm glad you added the (ish) as this was really "nothing"

This is not a matter of opinions alone, these are people that are harmful to children who might be gay. Who feel they have to suppress themselves in order to essentially hide from their family. It's despicable in every sense. They're so entrenched in their own, sick "god approved" view of things that they refuse to educate themselves.

These people were not being "harmful" unless you are simply meaning their request that he moved out because they did not approve of his actions as being "harmful". Dont forget that this is NOT a "child" we are talking about here anyway - didn't the mother say the father has provided for the kid for 20+ years? They could ask him to move out at that age for NO reasons. So they don't approve of his actions and ask him to move out... so what?

Isn't it prejudicial to say people need to be educated because they view things differently to how you want them to? Should they say the kid should be educated to view the same as them? They both have different views - if you dont want to be prejudiced then you have to simply accept that fact.

[Khraine]

i lold when the mother said "son of a bitch" to her own son

the family sounds like they live 200years ago,

She isn't wrong though.

Nah they sound like typical 'Murican 'bashers (who make bad Christians)

[Cassidin]

It's not even really a religion. It's a brainwashing cult that pretty much ties directly into a capitalistic society. What do you think the symbol or imagery of god on the cross is? It's slavery. Christianity basically brainwashes people into willing slavery. You can't take anything they say seriously.

Could this be called Christiphobia? Bashing something just because you don't agree with it?

[Frozenbeef]

He hit the enrage timer then wiped :/

Sounded like they were more upset about what ever he's been saying behind their back tbh

[Crissi]

Could this be called Christiphobia? Bashing something just because you don't agree with it?

not all Xtians are the same anyways. My Presbyterianism accepts gays as they are.

[Deleted]

Ok that's a bit of ancient Jewish law, good to know for history's sake, but let's focus on Christianity since it's the culprit for the crusades. The people who believed the quote you supplied were actually the victims of the violence during the crusades.

I think you know what Jesus's position on stoning people to death was, so this one doesn't really hold up.

Matthew 5:18 "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

Jesus very much agreed with the old testament. All the nasty parts of it.

[draykorinee]

Ok that's a bit of ancient Jewish law, good to know for history's sake, but let's focus on Christianity since it's the culprit for the crusades. The people who believed the quote you supplied were actually the victims of the violence during the crusades.

I think you know what Jesus's position on stoning people to death was, so this one doesn't really hold up.

So basically we can just throw out the entire old testament and the foundation of the christian faith, thats good to know. I also quoted new testament stuff.

Jesus very much agreed with the old testament. All the nasty parts of it.

False. Jesus was a left wing socialist hippy. He was fine, his followers are the dicks.

[Frozenbeef]

I just find it funny that people still take that thing seriously...it was 2000 years ago..do you really care what your 2000 year old ancestor has to say, it would be like people in 4000 caring what happened in 50 shades of grey...

Then consider that they were idiots compared to todays society and consider how stupid the majority of todays society is...

[Dendrek]

The thing that annoys me most about this video is that it takes a legitimate struggle that a lot of kids go through and makes a mockery of it. To be clear, this kid engineered this outcome. His mom was trying to be supportive (in her own, misguided way). He goaded that reaction out of her so that we'd all pity him and hate on her and her religion. His mom hugely overreacted, but her reaction wasn't because of his sexuality, it was because he was a disrespectful asshole looking for a confrontation and some attention.

[RicardoZ]

Matthew 5:18 "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

Jesus very much agreed with the old testament. All the nasty parts of it.

Jesus is also the one who said that he came to fulfill the law, so it was in fact fulfilled in his arrival on Earth, marking the end of its being the basis for the covenant between God and man. Through the death of Christ we no longer need to worry about keeping the Mosiac law to the letter (Paul reinforces this throughout the New Testament). The parts that were really important were highlighted by Jesus during his ministry and the things he wanted us to get rid of, stuff like stoning people to death and keeping a kosher kitchen, he made his opinions on those subjects known as well (John 8:7, Mark 7:19).


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[Lothar]

I love the way he reacted all the time, calling out the bullshit his family was saying. if he is reading this, these people are not your family. they dont know who you are and they dont value and love you for who and what you are.

[Cassidin]

From the point that he's being told to move out and accepts those terms (probably doesn't want anything to do with them after this), I'm going to make the huge leaping assumption he is at least 18, or frankly the can of worms gets a bit worse. As a legal adult with media evidence on his side, I'm fairly sure he would have a very good case.

I would very much hope he DOESNT have a case.... suing parents because they ask a legal adult to move out of home? Media evidence? If that counts as evidence I despair for the legal systems.

[Goradan]

Both partys are in the wrong here imo

The parents definitely should not have attacked there son for being gay and tbh by the sound of the kids voice it seems the parents are pretty fucking stupid not to have guessed that there son was gay.

The son is also in the wrong here because now he has publicly humiliated his parents for the world to see and the chances of reconciliation in the future is now zero.

Dumbass red neck parents and a dumbass drama queen of a son.

I don't have problem with the fact that the guy was filming this and while some of you guys are saying it's his fault for provoking his parents and all, is a valid point to make I don't see it that way. Reason. because if you throw the first punch in such a scenario you are the one in the shits. The family never had any real respect for the guy because they wanted him to be like what the parents want him to be. if your a parent then your the one who is reasonable for the welfare of your child and that you raise him or her to be what they want to be, not the way you want to them to be. Children are people and not livestock made to feed the ego of the parent.

And being all "I believe in the word of Christ" and bull is NOT a justification to attack your own child. and sure it takes two to tango, somethings one person is in the right but makes one little mistake and all hell breaks loose while someone who is in the wrong who does something right for once is being halted as a good guy or even a hero. this upside-down mentality is beyond stupid. Parenting should be about respecting and raising your child well. not bragging about getting gratitude for doing your duty of providing a child with basic needs and demanding respect for that. you can demand respect if your child is being and asshole hurting their parents for stupid or paranoid reasons or just being a soiled bastard. respect goes both ways but it just start form the parent. if not they are in the wrong.

9 to 10 this is shit is on the parents.