Holy at lvl 90 post 6.0

[Nightstorm]

Going into 6.0 and after playing on alpha and beta, i was super happy to see Holy shine for the first time in a long time. From what I can tell at lvl 100 Holy will be good but what I can say from my experience at lvl 90 post 6.0 it is in no better place than pre 6.0. While I know it is tuned for lvl 100 it is disappointing to still not be able to play my favorite spec sitting at the bottom of the meter. When we had Chakra, I could understand scaling issues with it being tuned for a higher lvl. Right now disc is still killing it and holy left for the next expansion (Cross fingers).

[Deleted]

Holy is fine. Disc is OP and ive been topping meters high above other healers but as holy i also topped meters, just not as much as disc. Disc is broken.

[Nightstorm]

Holy is fine. Disc is OP and ive been topping meters high above other healers but as holy i also topped meters, just not as much as disc. Disc is broken.

Do you have any logs to go with that? You know what they say, logs or it didn't happen.

[Deleted]

Nah we haven´t bothered doing logs when the content is so easy. Im hopefully doing mythic tonight and maybe i could ask if they could log it (i got no idea how too) and play holy some fights. But all im saying is from my experience holy is doing better then before. But with a content so easy and healing/mana regen so broken its hard to say and make assumptions. Every healer is good when they have unlimited mana. People are doing mythic content even without healers or tanks, its stupid.

On beta at 100 holy seems better cause of disc lack of mobility and non stacked aoe healing, but i also haven´t done any beta raiding so i cant give much feedback about that. Other then that people play holy alot more in beta lvl 100 then disc in 5.4/6.02.

Im looking forward to play holy main again and disc where its needed, if not shadow.

[Larynx]

Do you have any logs to go with that? You know what they say, logs or it didn't happen.

http://www.warcraftlogs.com/statisti...=hps&dataset=5

I could give you my own logs, but I think 5000+ parses is a more accurate depiction of healer balance at the moment.

There is no relevant data set to judge for post 6.0. Back when I was following beta, anecdotally Holy Priests and Druids were the best healer. Disc has since received a 22% heal increase, so it may be middle-top now.

[anon5123]

Holy and Druid are the all-around best healers, from what I can tell. "All-around" meaning that they're at least *OKAY* at all types of healing. They can ST heal well, they can AoE heal pretty great, and have a number of other useful spells and abilities. They're well-rounded.

[Genu]

Due to the content being nerfed a lot and people overgearing it, looking at logs won't necessarily point out what specs will be the best when it comes to WoD progress raiding. The reason you are sitting at the bottom of the meter is probably because disc priests/paladins doing most of the healing due to the nature of absorbs.

http://www.warcraftlogs.com/statisti...595&metric=hps

Also need to add that everyone have unlimited mana @lvl 90 due to double passive regen compared to lvl 100

[Deleted]

Holy is a top performing spec at level 100 HPS wise, unfortunately it will probably suffer the same fate as MoP because with grace the way it is disc is going to be OP. Blizzard has claimed that they want to move away from very high overheal spikey damage and challenge healers through triage instead of challenging them with insta-kills on people that are not 100% HP at all times. It remains to be seen what the impact of that will be on disc.

At level 90 things are very different and not indicative of the future end-game.

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Due to the content being nerfed a lot and people overgearing it, looking at logs won't necessarily point out what specs will be the best when it comes to WoD progress raiding. The reason you are sitting at the bottom of the meter is probably because disc priests/paladins doing most of the healing due to the nature of absorbs.

http://www.warcraftlogs.com/statisti...595&metric=hps

Also need to add that everyone have unlimited mana @lvl 90 due to double passive regen compared to lvl 100

Malkorok is not a good fight for a simple reason. It gives too much weight to the initial use of raid wide AoE abilities, with pre-pots, trinket procs and cloak procs that you just won't have on a normal encounter. you need to exclude the first few seconds to see which specs perform the best.

see for example
http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/nAZYPVqQrdpBjzw4#fight=29&type=healing&graph=true
and
http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/nAZYPVqQrdpBjzw4#fight=29&type=healing&graph=true&start=10253333&end=10312852

or
http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/tarxTAmQqZ6n9Lp2#fight=31&type=healing&graph=true
and
http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/tarxTAmQqZ6n9Lp2#fight=31&type=healing&graph=true&start=5338927&end=5417674

Not much to separate holy from druids tbh.