1. #3401
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    Lazel is one of the three reasons I actually come to this thread tho

  2. #3402
    Quote Originally Posted by Misume View Post
    Lazel is one of the three reasons I actually come to this thread tho
    Who are the other 2 ?

  3. #3403
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    Quote Originally Posted by celinamuna View Post
    Who are the other 2 ?
    You and Solaire

    Also to watch Valarius get banned every other day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misume View Post
    You and Solaire

    Also to watch Valarius get banned every other day
    He's like the Anaxie of the Protection thread, except more eloquent and with better grammar.

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    Disappointed how my penis wasn't given an honourable mention.

    Just did proving grounds for the first time in a long time, had Endless 20 but I heard it got harder as ilvl went up due to bad scaling. Did that when I was in less gear. Am now in 665. Got to wave 52, turned to watch a Starcraft game and died. Then I realised that I'd spent an hour of my life doing that bullshit. What the fuck man. Why did I bother...
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    Also a vegetable is a person.
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    I dont care if they [gays] are allowed to donate [blood], but I think we should have an option to refuse gay blood if we need to receive blood.

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    Anyone got an idea why the heck Divine Shield isn't blocking the damage from Crippling Suplex?

    See logs for info:
    /Kqx9Mf3HXD2y1BTg/#fight=17&view=execution&source=2&eventstart=8784739

    Can't post link yet...

  8. #3408
    Because Blizzard doesn't want you to be able to do that. It's an obvious way to ignore the ability.

    I second Exorsus Raid Tools. The only thing I don't like is that it fills the bar with the CD running (active) before it shows the time left.
    Last edited by Ulrik; 2015-03-08 at 10:26 PM.

  9. #3409
    Quote Originally Posted by Tanodal View Post
    Anyone got an idea why the heck Divine Shield isn't blocking the damage from Crippling Suplex?

    See logs for info:
    /Kqx9Mf3HXD2y1BTg/#fight=17&view=execution&source=2&eventstart=8784739

    Can't post link yet...
    Although tooltip doesn't say it. According to wowhead : http://www.wowhead.com/spell=156938/...ex#used-by-npc

    You can see in the flags that it is unaffected by invulnerability

  10. #3410
    So I got access to Pol's Mythic and BFD HC today. Currently running with EAE Mythic and TTT HC (and Pillar Mythic, on the bosses that require it). Which should I run with? inb4 someone directs me to Theck's trinket sims; I've seen them, but they're all for mythic, and half of my trinkets are from HC...

  11. #3411
    Quote Originally Posted by Valarius View Post
    People have to stop sucking his dick. He does nothing in this thread but shitpost and flame everyone, and brag about his numbers. It's also the reason he's on ignore; he has nothing useful to say, and doesn't answer people's questions/discussion without being condescending. If anything he's putting off new people who would like to come here and discuss things.
    Blatant homophobia aside, I said "almost always". The fact that you scan a conversation which has lasted for the last 6 months (if not more) and come up with 3 examples (well, 2 and one reply of mine) is almost in defense of my point and not yours.

    Whether Lazel puts people off is a valid topic for discussion, but since you obviously have a vendetta against him (and have made an effort to bring it up at every opportunity) you probably aren't the best one to voice that concern.

    I've been pretty open on my view that he communicates ideas badly but is a smart player who gets good results. I don't think that is being overly complimentary or critical, I think it's accurate. Feel free to disagree, that's your prerogative.

  12. #3412
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazel View Post
    Depends on your talent choice , I'd prefer mastery passive trinket with empowered seals & holy shield so EAE + TTT. For Seraphim I'd choose BFD + Pol's (untill you get TTT mythic)
    Seconded. To expand on the reasoning, you'll usually be using HA with Sera which wildly inflates the value of on-use trinkets, whereas with HSDP and EmpSDP you have so much raw SotR uptime that static mastery is pretty fucking good.

  13. #3413
    Quote Originally Posted by Lazel View Post
    Depends on your talent choice , I'd prefer mastery passive trinket with empowered seals & holy shield so EAE + TTT. For Seraphim I'd choose BFD + Pol's (untill you get TTT mythic)
    Yeah, I'm all about that DPS, so sera all the way. Cheers for a quick answer!

  14. #3414
    Theck did theorycrafting a few pages ago where he showed that mythic pols > mythic TTT for sera+ HA due to mastery just being over the pure amount of AP we'd get? Or were you more talking about sera+ DP combo for TTT over PBE?

    Quote Originally Posted by Theck View Post
    Was discussing trinket combinations with celinamuna earlier today, and he posited that Pol's Blinded Eye may produce more DPS than Tablet of Turnbuckle Teamwork when paired with HA+Seraphim under ideal conditoins, simply due to the sheer amount of AP stacking we can get by syncing things to HA. Did some testing and it looks like he's right:


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    Note that I'm using a DPS-focused APL for this (given below), with SoR and such. I'm also syncing potions to HA in order to maximize the interaction. Mark of Blackrock should almost automatically sync with HA since it has a 40-second internal cooldown.

    So it looks like we can stack enough AP that PBE's mastery buff wins out during HA. That said, the top average DPS still goes to the BFD+EAE combination that the default profiles use.

    Code:
    actions.precombat=flask,type=greater_draenic_strength_flask
    actions.precombat+=/food,type=pickled_eel
    actions.precombat+=/blessing_of_kings,if=(!aura.str_agi_int.up)&(aura.mastery.up)
    actions.precombat+=/blessing_of_might,if=!aura.mastery.up
    actions.precombat+=/seal_of_righteousness
    actions.precombat+=/sacred_shield
    # Snapshot raid buffed stats before combat begins and pre-potting is done.
    actions.precombat+=/snapshot_stats
    actions.precombat+=/potion,name=draenic_armor
    
    actions=auto_attack
    actions+=/speed_of_light,if=movement.remains>1
    actions+=/blood_fury
    actions+=/berserking
    actions+=/arcane_torrent
    # Off-GCD spells.
    actions+=/holy_avenger
    actions+=/potion,name=draenic_armor,if=buff.holy_avenger.up|(!talent.holy_avenger.enabled&(buff.seraphim.up|(!talent.seraphim.enabled&buff.bloodlust.react)))|target.time_to_die<=20
    actions+=/seraphim
    actions+=/shield_of_the_righteous,if=buff.divine_purpose.react
    actions+=/shield_of_the_righteous,if=(holy_power>=5|talent.holy_avenger.enabled)&(!talent.seraphim.enabled|cooldown.seraphim.remains>5)
    actions+=/shield_of_the_righteous,if=buff.holy_avenger.remains>time_to_hpg&(!talent.seraphim.enabled|cooldown.seraphim.remains>time_to_hpg)
    # GCD-bound spells
    actions+=/avengers_shield,if=buff.grand_crusader.react&active_enemies>1&!glyph.focused_shield.enabled
    actions+=/holy_wrath,if=talent.sanctified_wrath.enabled&(buff.seraphim.react|(glyph.final_wrath.enabled&target.health.pct<=20))
    actions+=/hammer_of_the_righteous,if=active_enemies>=3
    actions+=/judgment,if=talent.empowered_seals.enabled&buff.liadrins_righteousness.down
    actions+=/crusader_strike
    actions+=/wait,sec=cooldown.crusader_strike.remains,if=cooldown.crusader_strike.remains>0&cooldown.crusader_strike.remains<=0.35
    actions+=/judgment,cycle_targets=1,if=glyph.double_jeopardy.enabled&last_judgment_target!=target
    actions+=/judgment
    actions+=/wait,sec=cooldown.judgment.remains,if=cooldown.judgment.remains>0&cooldown.judgment.remains<=0.35
    actions+=/avengers_shield,if=active_enemies>1&!glyph.focused_shield.enabled
    actions+=/holy_wrath,if=talent.sanctified_wrath.enabled
    actions+=/avengers_shield,if=buff.grand_crusader.react
    actions+=/execution_sentence,if=active_enemies<3
    actions+=/holy_wrath,if=glyph.final_wrath.enabled&target.health.pct<=20
    actions+=/avengers_shield
    actions+=/seal_of_righteousness,if=talent.empowered_seals.enabled&!seal.righteousness
    actions+=/lights_hammer
    actions+=/holy_prism
    actions+=/consecration,if=target.debuff.flying.down&active_enemies>=3
    actions+=/execution_sentence
    actions+=/hammer_of_wrath
    actions+=/consecration,if=target.debuff.flying.down
    actions+=/holy_wrath
    actions+=/sacred_shield
    actions+=/flash_of_light,if=talent.selfless_healer.enabled&buff.selfless_healer.stack>=3
    Last edited by Candlemaster; 2015-03-09 at 02:53 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blznsmri View Post
    Quit shoving your opinion down other peoples throats.

    You're worse than Street Corner Baptists...

  15. #3415
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulrik View Post
    Because Blizzard doesn't want you to be able to do that. It's an obvious way to ignore the ability.

    I second Exorsus Raid Tools. The only thing I don't like is that it fills the bar with the CD running (active) before it shows the time left.
    It does boggle my mind though. "Hey guys heres divine shield, it makes you immune to everything!, but Uh! It wont work on some things! No we wont tell you when it works or not, wipe your group to check it out yourself ungrateful child!"

    They should at least make it do some damage reduction when it doesn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candlemaster View Post
    Theck did theorycrafting a few pages ago where he showed that mythic pols > mythic TTT for sera+ HA due to mastery just being over the pure amount of AP we'd get? Or were you more talking about sera+ DP combo for TTT over PBE?
    For me at my gear level (686) mythic wf TTT creates significantly higher bursts and noticeable more overall dps than mythic socketed(haste) Pol's. Simcraft says ~7k higher dps bursts and ~1k more dps overall, with both defensive and offensive APLs.

  17. #3417
    Quote Originally Posted by Khoorm View Post
    It does boggle my mind though. "Hey guys heres divine shield, it makes you immune to everything!, but Uh! It wont work on some things! No we wont tell you when it works or not, wipe your group to check it out yourself ungrateful child!"
    If it worked on everything, it would be too powerful and they'd just remove it. Having it work on some things but not others was the compromise that let us keep it in the first place, since it's pretty iconic.

    So test it on any mechanic you want to cheese on the first pull and go from there. Just like any other strategic decision you make while refining your strategy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Khoorm View Post
    They should at least make it do some damage reduction when it doesn't work.
    Not a bad idea, but may have some ramifications regarding our other mitigation cooldowns (i.e. does that give us too many and make us too valuable?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuisKA View Post
    For me at my gear level (686) mythic wf TTT creates significantly higher bursts and noticeable more overall dps than mythic socketed(haste) Pol's. Simcraft says ~7k higher dps bursts and ~1k more dps overall, with both defensive and offensive APLs.
    The entire reason PBE pulls ahead in those sims above is the fact that during Sera+ArmorPot you have more total AP with the PBE proc than the TTT proc. And I had to make tweaks to the APL to try to maximize that overlap to get those results. Under conditions that are less controlled (and/or with different gear), I can believe TTT coming out ahead.

  18. #3418
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    Any suggestions for talent and glyph choices on Iron Maidens Mythic? Or just any general tips & tricks?

    I'm tanking Sorka on the main platform all the time (not going to the boat) and dealing with tornadoes and blood rituals.

    Thanks.
    Last edited by mmoc8f165baf7a; 2015-03-09 at 05:00 PM.

  19. #3419
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diviny View Post
    Any suggestions for talent and glyph choices on Iron Maidens Mythic? Or just any general tips & tricks? Thanks.
    Which one are you tanking?

  20. #3420
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    If you're not tanking ships and Marak in the last phase, realistically, you can go with more or less whatever you want. Considering that Brewmaster Monk is basically a fucking hero class at this point and can completely negate the existence of Sanguine Strikes with the help of a single Disc priest, you really shouldn't be tanking boats (Touch of Death ) or Marak (Guard and EB ) if you can in any way avoid it, but if you've got PBE then Sera/HA is probably going to come out top for DPS and since you're not tanking Marak or boats, tank damage is pretty trivial in the first place anyway.

    Edit: Also, you don't have to "deal" with Blood Rituals - you can simply pre-shield and use externals on the target of Heartseeker. Having a tank soak it is simply completely unnecessary tank damage.
    Last edited by mmoc312bb4353b; 2015-03-09 at 05:12 PM.

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