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    Rain of Fire not generating embers

    Ok not sure what's up but my Rain of Fire generates a whopping 0 Ember Bits no matter how many things it hits. Did i miss something???

    Seriously, what the hell i simply don't get ember bits suddenly, nothing nada.
    Last edited by Yuyuli; 2014-11-25 at 11:20 AM.

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    i think they removed that a while ago to stop locks from using AOE in the single target rotation.

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    Same here, was MC and suddenly stucked whole Time at 1-2 Ember...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Th3D0n View Post
    i think they removed that a while ago to stop locks from using AOE in the single target rotation.
    They nerfed it pre SoO but giving no embers is definitly not intended Cant login right now, but yesterday i still got embers.
    If this is some kind of stealth nerf it would be a pretty big nerf for 3-6 target AoE and even a nerf to ST , especially if you have to move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Th3D0n View Post
    i think they removed that a while ago to stop locks from using AOE in the single target rotation.
    That happened in MoP, and it was only supposed to generate next to nothing Embers on single-target. If it doesn't generate Embers when it hits multiple targets, it sounds like a bug to me. (At least I can't remember them saying that RoF has changed anywhere.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Th3D0n View Post
    i think they removed that a while ago to stop locks from using AOE in the single target rotation.
    They nerfed it, but it was never removed; and that was MoP anyway. If it's not generating Embers at all, then it's either a bug, or a stealth nerf as there's no information on it I've seen anywhere. I'd be inclined to say bug, since they've been pretty clear that they're not really intent on class balance fixes until they have data from Highmaul.
    Last edited by Jessicka; 2014-11-25 at 12:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eace View Post
    That happened in MoP, and it was only supposed to generate next to nothing Embers on single-target. If it doesn't generate Embers when it hits multiple targets, it sounds like a bug to me. (At least I can't remember them saying that RoF has changed anywhere.)
    that isnt really true, it still generates more embers than "next to nothing" about 2-3 embers pr cast atm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    They nerfed it, but it was never removed; and that was MoP anyway. If it's not generating Embers at all, then it's either a bug, or a stealth nerf as there's no information on it I've seen anywhere. I'd be inclined to say bug, since they've been pretty clear that they're not really intent on class balance fixes until they have data from Highmaul.
    It doesn't generate Ember bits at all right now, i really hope it's just some odd bug caused by the latest hotfix because it really breaks Destro.

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    Heh, same thing as the demo 5.4 nerf. Trinket, hellfire AND imps got nerfed. Destro was using rof on single target which was not intended, so they just nerfed without compensating anything else. (At least from what i have seen.)

    Could have just increased mana cost or making it not generate embers on single target.
    Last edited by mmoc20b0a89b82; 2014-11-25 at 01:35 PM.

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    This is a stealth nerf you will see notes on it soon it was nerf'ed like 60% less damg and no longer gens ember at all. Super stupid move by blizz. There upset people are using it single tar that is not there intended use for the spell and this is how they plan on fixing it.

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    I really have no idea what you're talking about. RoF generates embers for me with no issues on multiple targets. Last night, while soloing Old Content it was the primary way I got embers before bosses. Just gathered up a group and dropped RoF on them until I had 4 Embers.
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    I've heard some rumblings that class balance hotfixes have been pushed and we will see notes soon. Would not be surprised in the least of they did this. Of course, this murders our AoE if true and they don't compensate FnB with damage and increased ember gen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zynx View Post
    I've heard some rumblings that class balance hotfixes have been pushed and we will see notes soon. Would not be surprised in the least of they did this. Of course, this murders our AoE if true and they don't compensate FnB with damage and increased ember gen.
    They won't do this, it's definitely not intended. The class tunings will probably come out when Mythic is released due to them having Normal and Heroic Highmaul DPS/HPS data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuyuli View Post
    It doesn't generate Ember bits at all right now, i really hope it's just some odd bug caused by the latest hotfix because it really breaks Destro.
    I believe it's a bug, It was generating embers for me last night. If it was a hotfix or something we will probably see some blue posts soon.

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    So this is clear. This was not done to adjust dps in any way. This was a decision made to fix a degenerate play style of using RoF on a single target. Many times in the last few years Devs have noted they don't intend on people using RoF on a single target. This is just how they plan on stopping us from using it on a single target. Believe what you want i am done on this topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zynx View Post
    I've heard some rumblings that class balance hotfixes have been pushed and we will see notes soon. Would not be surprised in the least of they did this. Of course, this murders our AoE if true and they don't compensate FnB with damage and increased ember gen.
    Don't know what rumblings you're hearing, they're quite specific here:

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    Honestly sounds like a bug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchlock View Post
    This is a stealth nerf you will see notes on it soon it was nerf'ed like 60% less damg and no longer gens ember at all. Super stupid move by blizz. There upset people are using it single tar that is not there intended use for the spell and this is how they plan on fixing it.
    Why would they reduce damage of an attack that barely does any damage?
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    It's fun in 5 man donjon...

    If you start a pack with 1 ember, you cannot aoe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchlock View Post
    So this is clear. This was not done to adjust dps in any way. This was a decision made to fix a degenerate play style of using RoF on a single target. Many times in the last few years Devs have noted they don't intend on people using RoF on a single target. This is just how they plan on stopping us from using it on a single target. Believe what you want i am done on this topic.
    I don't see a whole lot of people use RoF on single target. There's no point honestly. It does VERY little damage (only gets to be good damage when on a group) and generates VERY little Embers (again, only gets to be good embers on a group.) So, I don't really see why you believe this to be true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedDragon4275 View Post
    I don't see a whole lot of people use RoF on single target. There's no point honestly. It does VERY little damage (only gets to be good damage when on a group) and generates VERY little Embers (again, only gets to be good embers on a group.) So, I don't really see why you believe this to be true.
    I've always had it as a part of my rotation, any chance to gain more burning embers and increase damage output is a good thing. That said, I hope there's something in the notes about this, I haven't experienced this for myself yes

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