Closed Beta + New Patch

[Mormolyce]

Don't really see any reason to pick her over any of the other ranged assassins.

That's because they're OP!

Well except Raynor.

[Charge me Doctor]

Don't really see any reason to pick her over any of the other ranged assassins.

Anyone else noticed queue times are way longer now on EU? Before I'd have to wait at most a minute, now it seems to be the minimum.

Yeah, yesterday i had like 7 minute long queues, and i've got same guy 3 times in a row in my team, 4th time he was on enemy team. Weird

[Nikkaszal]

That's because they're OP!

Well except Raynor.

Raynor can be safely ignored until he gets Art Of War & Executioner and starts ripping your whole team new arseholes

[Kolvarg]

Still waiting for my beta key =V

[Valedus]

Raynor can be safely ignored until he gets Art Of War & Executioner and starts ripping your whole team new arseholes

All about Searing + Zerking, shit's nasty. If Raynor is bad because of a lack of mobility, he's still better than Jaina IMO. I think a LOT of people play Raynor wrong.

[Nikkaszal]

His regular auto is laughable

His Searing autos can hurt

But it's not until he gets Executioner + Searing at the same time and starts shooting you in the face for 700 that he gets crazy scary.

[Valedus]

His regular auto is laughable

His Searing autos can hurt

But it's not until he gets Executioner + Searing at the same time and starts shooting you in the face for 700 that he gets crazy scary.

Seasoned Marksman + Range(or Focused Attack) + Searing + Giant Killer + Zerk = plenty of 600-700 hits at an insane attack speed at the end of the game. He might not be as good as Valla or Tychus, but I definitely don't think he's bad.

[apepi]

Super Siege Friends comp is so much fun. Just pick 5 specialist and win games, went 3-0 today in a quick match, and it is so much fun. You really have to make tough choices, "Should we push ignore objectives?".

Jaina is solid, she just needs support.

Personally? I would rather someone who does not need support for them to be good, some heroes are as good as her and don't need it.

Seasoned Marksman + Range(or Focused Attack) + Searing + Giant Killer + Zerk = plenty of 600-700 hits at an insane attack speed at the end of the game. He might not be as good as Valla or Tychus, but I definitely don't think he's bad.

This build is so strong. But I would go talent one heal though.

[Nikkaszal]

Super Siege Friends comp is so much fun. Just pick 5 specialist and win games, went 3-0 today in a quick match, and it is so much fun. You really have to make tough choices, "Should we push ignore objectives?".

My last match had a trio-queue Azmo, Hammer + Abathur who stated they were just going to push bot lane all day.

They were held off by a single Tychus, who knocked out the fort first -.-

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My last match had a trio-queue Azmo, Hammer + Abathur who stated they were just going to push bot lane all day.

They were held off by a single Tychus, who knocked out the fort first -.-

Wow. How can you suck so bad. Oo

Unless a ton of roaming and ganking happened.

[Nikkaszal]

Not even remotely. Hammer would constantly plonk himself in standard "seige the turrets" bush so Tychus would just go "alright" and grenade him into turret range while mowing down Azmo's minions and Abby's locusts with Q. They ignored him to seige and ended up not doing much and having to back lots.

Then he got Melting Point nade upgrade which just nullified all the minions.

We couldnt do shit to help because it was 2v4 on the rest of the map (Abby spent the whole time giving his hat to locusts to "push")

It was a joke.

(Tychus got first fort due to them having total control over all the coins)

[Runeshear]

After getting Thrall, i went on a rampage with him. Maybe i just went up against bad players but holy crap. I could 1v2, 1v3 people and wreck them. Ive never been able to do that and Thrall made it so easy. GREEN JESUS FTW!

[Lesane]

Seasoned Marksman + Range(or Focused Attack) + Searing + Giant Killer + Zerk = plenty of 600-700 hits at an insane attack speed at the end of the game. He might not be as good as Valla or Tychus, but I definitely don't think he's bad.

Raynor is definitely not that bad, but he's nowhere near top tier either. He is just awkward in terms of design. You can't do anything but auto attack pretty much. The only damaging ability you have is also your "disengage" and often saves enemies rather than putting them in dangerous positions unless you somehow flanked them and knock them into your team. He's just way too auto pilot in every aspect but then has a Q that is actually pretty hard to use properly. It makes no sense.

Edit: Holy shit Chen's ult sucks now. You now have to use it offensively which means you deal shit damage, no longer root people and in most cases get an inferior slow. It's only useful for body blocking now since it can no longer be used as an escape. It would've been handy if the other ult didn't suck already from the start. R.I.P. Chen.

[Temp name]

Not even remotely. Hammer would constantly plonk himself in standard "seige the turrets" bush so Tychus would just go "alright" and grenade him into turret range while mowing down Azmo's minions and Abby's locusts with Q. They ignored him to seige and ended up not doing much and having to back lots.

Then he got Melting Point nade upgrade which just nullified all the minions.

We couldnt do shit to help because it was 2v4 on the rest of the map (Abby spent the whole time giving his hat to locusts to "push")

It was a joke.

(Tychus got first fort due to them having total control over all the coins)

I.. Don't even.

This sounds hilarious. For the other team that is.

Also, question: How good is Tassadar?

[Nikkaszal]

I.. Don't even.

This sounds hilarious. For the other team that is.

Also, question: How good is Tassadar?

Very good in short-burst teamfights when he can quickly shield whoever is the most vulnerable (the shield is fucking ENORMOUS) then drop his Storm, go Archon and start blasting people. Not great as a solo support against a team that can rapidly retarget - all he really has skill-wise to aid his team is shield and his damage output. A good team will see the shield go out, recognise trying to punch though it as a horribly bad idea, and go for someone else. At which point Tass can't do anything to help.

He also has basically no capability to deal with seige and poke. Damage prevention is a fine thing, but all the other supports are able to keep their team topped up between pokewars and skirmishes. Tass can't. If he doesn't manage to correctly block the incoming with shield, too damn bad, you will NOT be getting that HP back.

[Valedus]

Very good in short-burst teamfights when he can quickly shield whoever is the most vulnerable (the shield is fucking ENORMOUS) then drop his Storm, go Archon and start blasting people. Not great as a solo support against a team that can rapidly retarget - all he really has skill-wise to aid his team is shield and his damage output. A good team will see the shield go out, recognise trying to punch though it as a horribly bad idea, and go for someone else. At which point Tass can't do anything to help.

He also has basically no capability to deal with seige and poke. Damage prevention is a fine thing, but all the other supports are able to keep their team topped up between pokewars and skirmishes. Tass can't. If he doesn't manage to correctly block the incoming with shield, too damn bad, you will NOT be getting that HP back.

Agreed. Tass is amazing, he's just not the team's primary support. He's a really good 2nd support; he's a pretty solid hybrid DPS still. Especially if you have a Valla or something that they love to tunnel vision.

[Sorissa]

Super Siege Friends comp is so much fun. Just pick 5 specialist and win games, went 3-0 today in a quick match, and it is so much fun. You really have to make tough choices, "Should we push ignore objectives?".

Should stream/post these on youtube, sounds hella fun to watch.

Eh, my problem with raynor is that it seems he has one or two builds only, so anyone who's clueless can build him wrong and do nothing... Which is usually the case with the ones I meet.

I've been seeing some crazy Thrall plays, just wrecking 1v2 and 1v3 too. Think the enemy team was mostly getting non-damaging talents and didn't have enough DPS to down him, but still hilarious.

I'm yet to get the new map :[

[Gnomorepuns]

Stun/displace him when he starts his Q

Bye bye damage.

If you're against him 1v1 and don't have CC, just don't fight him. Dodging erratically when he's trying to chase you makes it extremely difficuly for him to land a grenade that knocks you towards him instead of pushing you to safety.

I eat Tychus alive, whether a bad or rly good player playing him. When you know how to master Illidan correctly, he can demolish the likes of Tychus, Raynor, Zeebz, Zag, I could go on with other heros like them.

[Nikkaszal]

I eat Tychus alive, whether a bad or rly good player playing him. When you know how to master Illidan correctly, he can demolish the likes of Tychus, Raynor, Zeebz, Zag, I could go on with other heros like them.

There is no way a good Tychus should ever lose to Illidan 1v1. If you gapclose with Dive, he will grenade you away and kite you with Q. If you gapclose with W, he will dash away and kite you with Q until you Dive, at which point he will grenade you.

Evasion doesnt stop his Q. It chews Illidan to pieces. Once he gets Lead Rain, forget about ever being able to stick to him if he knows how to play.

[apepi]

Should stream/post these on youtube, sounds hella fun to watch.

Eh, my problem with raynor is that it seems he has one or two builds only, so anyone who's clueless can build him wrong and do nothing... Which is usually the case with the ones I meet.

I've been seeing some crazy Thrall plays, just wrecking 1v2 and 1v3 too. Think the enemy team was mostly getting non-damaging talents and didn't have enough DPS to down him, but still hilarious.

I'm yet to get the new map :[

Well......http://www.twitch.tv/a22ow/b/611679665, starts around 1:41:28. Oh god I hate my voice. I don't have good enough net to stream, but one of my teammates does.

Also watch the minimap on the first mines, me and Reghar(random) kill two people and have have the other two run, we get the rest of the skulls and have our golem just about as strong as them.