Thread: PoM buff?

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    PoM buff?

    I need a translator this is in ptr patch notes

    Prayer of Mending (Discipline, Holy) now heals for 2 * Percent Health + 104% of Spell Power * Percent Health.

    How does the current one work? how does this differ?

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    Current one:

    Prayer of Mending
    2.4% of base mana 40 yd range
    1.5 sec cast 10 sec cooldown
    Requires Priest
    Requires level 68

    Places a spell on the target that heals them for [((0 + (Spell power * 0.442787)) * Percent health * 1)] the next time they take damage. When the heal occurs, Prayer of Mending jumps to an ally within 20 yards. Jumps up to 5 times and lasts 30 sec after each jump.

    New one:

    Same effect, bigger heal.

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    Those are all just tooltip cleanups/bugs. I actually got on to the PTR tonight and my POM healed the same and only had 5 charges (though the tooltip said 10).

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    Quote Originally Posted by davesignal View Post
    Those are all just tooltip cleanups/bugs. I actually got on to the PTR tonight and my POM healed the same and only had 5 charges (though the tooltip said 10).
    Does, this change effect shadow in any way?

    OT: Tried insanity with Mind sear, doesn't seem to have a updated graphic or anything.

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    so is this a buff because i dont remember seeing a buff to pom besides it jumping to more ppl.

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    I'll just quote what I put in last post about this

    "I went onto the ptr to test this out, as Disc PoM was still generating 5 stacks, however when I recast it on someone already with the buff the stacks were building up past 5, so casting it on myself twice in a row created a 10 stack PoM(It wouldn't stack past 10). Hard to know whether this is an unintended side affect of creating the functionality for the 2set bonus to work or a sensible improvement to the way PoM works. Ultimately means spell is still largely worthless for discipline."

    Having looked on ptr again, it looks like its got a sizeable healing boost as well, nearly 50%(from about 4k at 670ish to about 6k). When I was casting it twice on my self to reach 10 stacks the tooltip also said it woulf heal for twice as much,(12k) but this wasn't the case.

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    That's actually a rather substantial boost to PoM and Holy. It might even be worth casting as Disc if those numbers are right and if you can ensure it'll be consumed fully/overheal minimally. PoM's healing is based off your current buffs, so it should be worth using before you cast AA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dranxadin View Post
    Having looked on ptr again, it looks like its got a sizeable healing boost as well, nearly 50%(from about 4k at 670ish to about 6k).
    Thanks for testing it. Would you (or anyone else with access) be willing to post/pm the exact heal amount you got and also the relevant stats (i.e. Spellpower, Mastery and Versatility) at the time of the heal?

    EDIT: Apparently I can still access the PTR, strange. My test gave,

    PoM heal = 6423
    Spellpower = 4213
    Mastery = 20.61% (537 rating)
    Versatility = 2.13% (277 rating)

    So when we include all our specialisation factors (1.25 from Spiritual Healing, 1.25 from Divine Fury, 1.3 from Grace), include the 1 base healing the spell apparently has (from the tooltip) and calculate the Mastery/Versatility percentages from the rating (for greater accuracy), we get,

    6423 = [1 + 4213(c)](1.3)(1.25)(1.25)[1 + (1/2)(0.128 + 537/6875)](1 + 277/13000) -> c = 0.66600...

    I also did a second test with no gear equipped, in which case the heal was for 1496, and my Spellpower, Mastery and Versatility were 1038, 12.8% and 0% respectively. Using these numbers gives c = 0.66588...

    EDIT2: Improved accuracy of above calculations.

    I'll do another test later on (once the last files of the PTR are done downloading) and see if it's different then. EDIT3 (belated): Tested again and found no changes from the above.
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    what about the buff to PWS that it absorbs 2% more damage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skandulous View Post
    what about the buff to PWS that it absorbs 2% more damage
    It's just a tooltip fix incorporating both the buff PW:S got at the start of the expansion and the 15% nerf it recently got.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myllior View Post
    Thanks for testing it. Would you (or anyone else with access) be willing to post/pm the exact heal amount you got and also the relevant stats (i.e. Spellpower, Mastery and Versatility) at the time of the heal?

    EDIT: Apparently I can still access the PTR, strange. My test gave,

    PoM heal = 6423
    Spellpower = 4213
    Mastery = 20.61% (537 rating)
    Versatility = 2.13% (277 rating)
    Thanks! Those numbers given show that PoM received no buffs, unfortunately!

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    How is PoM now behaving with a second priests PoM in the raid?
    If they come to jump to the same target, do they "merge", co-exist or one is getting dropped?

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    @ Ayalla: There can be several PoM on one target, but only one per priest!

    Another question: PoM scales with the health of its target? So the more HP the target has, the more it heals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghuul View Post
    Another question: PoM scales with the health of its target? So the more HP the target has, the more it heals?
    That's not what I see happening in game, the heal value doesn't seem to have any relation to target or player health

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    % health

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsparowe View Post
    That's not what I see happening in game, the heal value doesn't seem to have any relation to target or player health
    hey there, I think what that person was referring to was:

    "2 * Percent Health + 104% of Spell Power * Percent Health"

    this is something that I don't understand either. How does 'percent health' come into the equation, and what does it mean? How do you calculate the amt of healing POM does before and after the buff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by massac0r View Post
    hey there, I think what that person was referring to was:

    "2 * Percent Health + 104% of Spell Power * Percent Health"

    this is something that I don't understand either. How does 'percent health' come into the equation, and what does it mean? How do you calculate the amt of healing POM does before and after the buff?
    as holy here's the formula for PoM;

    66.6%SP * 10%hiddenpassive * divinefury * spiritualhealing * versatility

    %health doesn't come into it. this is for live, the values for ptr might be different but in both cases %health just seems to be a tooltip bug / quirk

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