Holy 4p Playstyle?

[Deleted]

Hey Priest buddys.

I got some questions about the 4p bonus for holy and its playstyle.

1.) I got Highmaul mythic nonset pieces with very good stats on the slots, is it still worth using the 4p bonus with 680 heroic parts?

2.) When do you want to specc ToF and when do you want to specc into DI ?

3.) How viable is PoH and when do you use it?

4.) Anything else about the playstyle with it? Did I forgot any important question or whatsoever?

Regards.

[Deleted]

Yes
Most of the time DI, unless it a fight with a lot of moving while people are getting low, i.e. when you can't cast heal or PoH during AoE. e.g. blackhand
When there are 3+ people in a group that will benefit fully from the heal and you need to heal them fast or when you have serendipity stacks to spend
It's mostly fishing for procs with heal, unless you have a lot of spirit to be spamming PoH for procs.

[ceddya]

IMO, ToF is still better for high damage fights. You will still get enough Serendipity procs with PoM + WoM.

DI: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...ling&source=13
ToF: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...ling&source=19

Even if you account for the fact that my DI parse has one less Divine Hymn, the numbers still wouldn't come close.

[Deleted]

So for Gruul Mythic for example you'd chose ToF over DI?

Got an specific example for both choises? ToF and DI...

And do you use every 2stack of Serendipity asap? Like you got 2 of it and instantly do eighter heal or PoH?

[Deleted]

IMO, ToF is still better for high damage fights. You will still get enough Serendipity procs with PoM + WoM.

Even if you account for the fact that my DI parse has one less Divine Hymn, the numbers still wouldn't come close.

But what do you think after the 6.1 buff to CoP? For Gruul which is basically stationary and alot of high damage CoP would really have a place to shine? Question is if its enough to weigh up the loss of both ToF and WoM.

[Deleted]

Don't forget that it will also depend on how many discs and paladins you have in a raid, since they will result in lower uptime. There are many things that come in to play here. Best way is to try out both while other people are learning the fight and wiping the raid, and stick with what gives you better numbers for that fight.

[Nzete]

I'm 2/7M, 8/10H and running with divine insight and WoM with the 4 set. I've taken to burning the serendipity as soon as possible (heal if PoH isn't appropriate) for the further divine insight procs. Tracking divine insight differently than just PoM in my weak auras.

[kaamila]

ive been using DI and WoM. i really like the new playstyle but it burns my mana faster than before so thats something i gotta get used to. also anyone got a nice weak aura to track serendipity procs? ive been just looking at my buffs but i definitely need a big button that tells me when i have 2

[Sechi]

ive been using DI and WoM. i really like the new playstyle but it burns my mana faster than before so thats something i gotta get used to. also anyone got a nice weak aura to track serendipity procs? ive been just looking at my buffs but i definitely need a big button that tells me when i have 2

This is the one I use. (I did not make it)

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[kaamila]

This is the one I use. (I did not make it)

i like this. ty sir

[Kelade]

Just heal like you used to when you didn't have 4pc, except now you are using prayer of mending on CD and prayer of healing if you have 2 serendipity stacks and you can heal at least 3 people. Divine insight is not that great since a lot of the healing is just wasted as over healing and renew/CoH is still the best use of our time