Yeah let's use 10 man guilds who didn't make the cut in 20 man as a point about how 10 man guilds sucked, but obviously ignore guilds like paragon who would disprove your point in an instant.
Stay classy MMO-C.
This thread has had its time in the sun, and now its got to end. It is spiraling into 10man discussions, guilds disbanding, and so many off-topic things and backlashing each other.