1. #4101
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    That would undermine a lot of the "core" of the ES series though, no? Part of it is that you "make" your own class more or less, and there aren't an predefined classes. I remember a lot of skepticism at classes in ESO when it was first announced, though as folks found out that the class was more deterministic for "how" you'd do a role vs. "if" you can do a role they chilled out.

    That's part of the point for why classes can basically do anything: Because your class shouldn't determine your character, the skills you choose should. Your class is there for some added seasoning/flavor.
    Oh i know about that but whats the point of having classes then? Because they dont really add that much a flavor.

    They kind of went a weird way, you have classes that can access every skill line except other class skills but then you hardly ever use your own class skills because the best are from shared pool.

  2. #4102
    Quote Originally Posted by Aliven View Post
    Oh i know about that but whats the point of having classes then? Because they dont really add that much a flavor.

    They kind of went a weird way, you have classes that can access every skill line except other class skills but then you hardly ever use your own class skills because the best are from shared pool.
    Tbh tanks and healers use their class skills extensively.
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  3. #4103
    Question for reminding, are gear set effects from the newer content designed to be 'better' than existing sets? Or just something that allowed for a different play style.


    To this game's credit, there wasn't a fixed meta for my class when I played. At least not one that was easily discovered with a Google search. However, the range of DPS a player can do is all over the place with the many setups. As opposed to something like WoW which has a good dps doing about 2-3 times more damage than a bad dps.

  4. #4104
    Quote Originally Posted by Very Tired View Post
    Question for reminding, are gear set effects from the newer content designed to be 'better' than existing sets? Or just something that allowed for a different play style.


    To this game's credit, there wasn't a fixed meta for my class when I played. At least not one that was easily discovered with a Google search. However, the range of DPS a player can do is all over the place with the many setups. As opposed to something like WoW which has a good dps doing about 2-3 times more damage than a bad dps.
    No, new content doesn't really always have better gear. Especially for tanks and healers who focus mostly on buffing the dps in their group and thus choose sets that do that the best. Still, some of the more recent monster mask sets are exceptional.
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  5. #4105
    murkmire event starts... now!

    https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/e...ews/post/57695

    edited to add, right now world bosses are so busy, that unless your dps is really good, you are probably not getting loot from them, so my suggestion would be - farm random trash until tickets and strongbox drops. less chances to miss them this way, if tickets is what you are after for newest indrik
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    Yea, tickets aren't just on world bosses for this event.

    They are now RNG drops off of all mobs in the zone, in the delves, etc. So don't stick to world bosses and don't think because you didn't get a ticket your first kill its bugged. Its not. Its 'working as intended' unfortunately. :/ For whatever stupid reason they made THIS event not work like every other event in the last two years and the tickets are RNG drops.
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  7. #4107
    Quote Originally Posted by Koriani View Post
    Yea, tickets aren't just on world bosses for this event.

    They are now RNG drops off of all mobs in the zone, in the delves, etc. So don't stick to world bosses and don't think because you didn't get a ticket your first kill its bugged. Its not. Its 'working as intended' unfortunately. :/ For whatever stupid reason they made THIS event not work like every other event in the last two years and the tickets are RNG drops.
    oh it gets worse.

    suppose you would like to get yourself an event pet, the one you have to assemble out of fragments. those fragments are

    1. NOT a guaranteed drop out of those daily strongboxes
    2. extra strongboxes seem to have an extremely low drop rates - and again, fragments not guaranteed
    3. fragments.. are NOT .... TRADABLE. I repeat. not tradable. if you do get one, they are added directly into collections menu. and we do not know for sure if duplicates are possible or not. and ticket max is STILL 12. not counting berry (which lets assume best case scenario - you had enough tickets for already, going into event) you need 70 tickets to get all the fragments for pet AND memento. max number of tickets for this event is 39. and as I said... drops from gold boxes are not guaranteed, you don't know what you WILL get and storing tickets till the end of event is impossible, since max amount you can hold is 12.


    I just... really ZoS? REALLY?

    (yes I posted all of the above on official forums and tagged Gina Bruno, so I'm not just ranting here pointlessly, merely passing along this info)

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    oh yea, I read those posts too.

    I"m just glad I've never felt driven to get any of the fragments of anything of these events. But yea at least in the past you could sell them for sometimes good money when you didn't want them.

    And I'm glad I already got my 'two favorite' colors of Indriks and then stopped. And I'm glad I limited it to the two 'favorites' back when this whole multi-year event bullcrap started.

    At this point they could release the most-awesomeo-mount of all and I don't know that I'd be able to force myself to grind enough tickets to get it. lol. burned out enough!
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    I parked a character that I don’t play often in a delve. I log on, kill a few movs, grab my box and tickets, and log on a different character to do anything other than this event. Solid 5m a day to get what I need.
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    Don't forget that the game is going through a bit of an "overhaul" in terms of it's installation and patching tomorrow. The game will need to be completely redownloaded. You don't have to do anything special as the launcher will remove the old installation and start the new one but for those with low bandwidth and data caps (like me), be careful as the game will have to be completely downloaded. The plus side is the game install size won't be nearly as big as it currently is and this will help with asset loading in game giving us (supposedly) shorter loading screens and improved fps.

  11. #4111
    Came back to the game a week or so ago and been having a blast with the necromancer class compared to my old NB. The one thing that still grinds my fucking gears about this game is the fact that there's 0 weapon variety if you want to go magicka (in pve). I want to use a 2h or DW so bad but can't really unless i go some weird hybrid build. Not the end of the world but i wish they'd come out with a new magicka weapon already.

    Oh and make it so my tattoos don't turn purple and fade away when i'm a vampire. That would be great aswell.

  12. #4112
    This is one LOOOOOOOOOONG download.
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  13. #4113
    So i assume the update is live on EU?

  14. #4114
    kinda dreading this update.

    just about every single time a company has said an update would lead to performance enhancements, it's lead to nothing but performance loss for me. happened with wow, swtor, and even minecraft 1.15 patch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    kinda dreading this update.

    just about every single time a company has said an update would lead to performance enhancements, it's lead to nothing but performance loss for me. happened with wow, swtor, and even minecraft 1.15 patch.
    I've definitely got a performance boost out of this. Being able to run trials at max settings is pretty nice.

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    Some got improvements, some are seeing no changes - and for some its significantly worse.

    And Cyrodil is apparently crashing constantly for most (all?) at this point.

    So like life - some good... some not. YMMV!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koriani View Post
    Some got improvements, some are seeing no changes - and for some its significantly worse.

    And Cyrodil is apparently crashing constantly for most (all?) at this point.

    So like life - some good... some not. YMMV!
    Some are also seeing improvements. I've never been able to do trials with max settings. Now I can and still maintain 60fps. It's great. Haven't really noticed shorter load screens though which I'm not surprised with since the loading screen issues are serverside related and no so much client side with ESO.

  18. #4118
    This will be an interesting year for ESO. They are planning major system reworks with the Champion system and likely with skill rebalancing. I honestly hope they transition the original classes to work more like the Warden and Necromancer.
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  19. #4119
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    This will be an interesting year for ESO. They are planning major system reworks with the Champion system and likely with skill rebalancing. I honestly hope they transition the original classes to work more like the Warden and Necromancer.
    man, i hope they don't change the champion system too much. ESO's about the only example of a proper way to do max level content in the entire mmo market.

    the shit of infinite progression that everyone else always tries just fails and feels boring as fuck. at least with CP, you got an end point. you can't have infinite progression, or you eventually run into the problem of needing stat/level squishes.

    and idk, the update didn't seem to change much for me. no change is better than bad change at least.
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  20. #4120
    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    man, i hope they don't change the champion system too much. ESO's about the only example of a proper way to do max level content in the entire mmo market.

    the shit of infinite progression that everyone else always tries just fails and feels boring as fuck. at least with CP, you got an end point. you can't have infinite progression, or you eventually run into the problem of needing stat/level squishes.

    and idk, the update didn't seem to change much for me. no change is better than bad change at least.
    Infinite progression is always a bad system.

    It is first and foremost lazy - it creates "chase the numbers" mentality for no other reason just to chase them.
    Secondly - it create the system that doesnt respect you, you just need to play to keep up (or that is the mentality) and new content is either pushed for the no lifers (because you know, you create system so better make incentivize to use it) or not, but then you failed, because people would not bother with infinite progression.
    Thirdly - its not humane design. There is a need of an end point. Always. Even in MMORPG.

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