Total War: WARHAMMER - Official anounced

[jimlow]

I have been waiting for this game since high school when I played the very first shogun total war

[Venziir]

And Warhammer both fantasy and 40k is still the only IP where orcs have charisma.

Erm... No. They have a certain savage charm, but not charisma.

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Eh, nothing stands out about wow orcs to me.

They are just your average D&D orc with a Warhammer orc skin on top.

Blizzard and Bethesda both *tried* to create a new orc - the "klingon" orc so to speak, the misunderstood yet noble and wise savage - yet Blizzard have, ever since Cataclysm, been backtracking to their Warcraft 2 days, when their Orcs were just Warhammer orcs.

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Warcraft orcs have charisma? Its either Flawless Goel of Goeldom or braindead Groms of retardation.

I'm not sure you really know what charisma means though.

[Belize]

Calling it now:

High Elves are Empire reskins.

Ogres are Orc reskins.

Lizardmen are also Orc reskins.

Tomb Kings are Vampire Counts reskins... and barely even reskins.

All are separate DLC, $40 each.

Lizardman play nothing like orcs on the tabletop, don't be silly

[Gorsameth]

On the other hand, TW: Attila has been very well received. Hopefully Rome 2 was their blip.

Atilla was well received because it is a reskinned Rome 2. They had time to get all the bugs out that hurt the base game so much.

[Dhrizzle]

I've always wanted to get into Warhammer, but everyone always seemed to be playing 40k, and the Fsntasy setting was the one that appealed to me. To top it off, it's soooo expensive. Now is my chance to get into the world, as I love Total War. Can anyone recommend a bunch of good Warhammer Fantasy novels for someone who knows nothing about the lore? Are they competently written? I read the two Guild Wars books and they were terribly written if that tells you what I consider bad.

I have no interest in 40k

With Games Workshop books (of which there are hundreds) you can usually tell how well an author tackles the subject by the number of books they've had published, if an author only had 2 books published a few years apart it's likely they weren't well received. Authors with a series and few other titles are generally pretty good. If you're interested in a particular race there will probably be a trilogy or something that covers part of their history or a famous character. Otherwise I can really recommend Bill King's Gotrek and Felix series. It focuses a lot on Dwarfs and the Empire, but as the main characters are wandering adventurers they have encounters with most of the major Warhammer races (a clue to which one is in the title of the book - Skavenslayer, Orcslayer, Elfslayer etc.)

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Atilla was well received because it is a reskinned Rome 2. They had time to get all the bugs out that hurt the base game so much.

Atilla is a reskinned Rome in the same way that Rome was a reskinned Shogun. So not at all.

[SirRobin]

CA guy also said they have at least 24 different unit skeletons. I don't think they will be the same. Rome 2 had about 5.

I recall an entire segment on Rally Point with a CA guy talking about how improved the AI was going to be for Rome II.

[Cyclone Jack]

I recall an entire segment on Rally Point with a CA guy talking about how improved the AI was going to be for Rome II.

I think those rally points ended up covering features that wouldn't be in the game.

[Maximus Testiculos]

Hey, check this full conversion mod for medieval 2 total war kingdoms. It has all empire counties as independent factions, 4 different chaos faction, dwarves, chaos dwarves, orcs, goblins, high elves, dark elves, kislev, vampires.
Soon 1.6 version will add norsca, skaven and tomb kings on campaign map and custom battles.

[draykorinee]

I tried the mods, it broke my install, was a real shame.

[Maximus Testiculos]

This does not affect your main game in any way. It has its own installer with its own folder. You must have did something wrong.

[ParanoiD84]

It's a great mod but i always get ctd's on the battle map. Also they need to have a coop campaign in Warhammer total war, would be epic as hell.

[draykorinee]

This does not affect your main game in any way. It has its own installer with its own folder. You must have did something wrong.

Ah maybe that was the one that kept crashing then, I remember trying different mods, is this the one you have to create a different shortcut to a different .exe?

[cudomix]

Most Medieval 2 mods have their own executable in my experience (i have 3 installed atm: LotR Third Age, Call of Warhammer, Retrofit, they work without problems mostly).

[draykorinee]

Yeah I might have just been unlucky, had some serious issues with it crashing, from what I saw it looked solid

[Faldric]

I recall an entire segment on Rally Point with a CA guy talking about how improved the AI was going to be for Rome II.

Was that the same guy who said "This is very early pre alpha code and the final game will look even better than this"?

[Derah]

Bah, for a moment there I thought it was Warhammer 40k.

Instead its the boring old one.

Call me when they make a total war game for the cooler of the warhammers.

[Throren]

Oh look, another person posting just to whine it isn't 40k xD

[draykorinee]

I know right, it's not like 40k hasn't already had great strategy games! Us fantasy fans have had nothing good for years.

[freezion]

I know right, it's not like 40k hasn't already had great strategy games! Us fantasy fans have had nothing good for years.

true!
i think the last PROPER warhammer fantasy game we had were mark of chaos/battle march and warhammer age of reckoning.
honestly, this seems like the year of warhammer fantasy with vermintide, TW: warhammer and Mordheim scheduled to be released this year.
i am incredibly psyched about it!
i don't count bloodbowl, despite being warhammer fantasy, then it's an entirely different game concept.

let us just have this one game for the love of god sake. i like warhammer 40k, but there's just not enough warhammer fantasy.