Legion Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Leefa]

"waste time" - it would be a big kick off to whatever marketing campaign they have planned for it. Legacy of The Void is going to be a popular expansion, and sell well, why wouldn't they do it there, to the general gaming industry? Add in that Blizzard has been pumping up their marketing budgets through the roof, and this makes total sense.

They wouldn't just say "Coming October xxx" and walk off the stage. Events like this, they have press packets, make any video available for linking or hosting, screenshots, art, ect. It's how many marketing campaigns start, it's SOP for marketing in any industry.

I have no idea what is coming, but I'll put my years of working in marketing against your "they won't waste their time because I want a new WOW expansion announcement". It's fine to hope for it, but don't dismiss rational possibilities so glibly.

By waste of time I meant they're not going to dedicate time to it when they only have a 30 minute conference. We're also very far away from Winter to talk about an exact date.

They're much more likely to talk either about Hearthstone, Overwatch or WoW. My money is on Overwatch since the beta is supposed to start soon but I hope they do have something planned for WoW, otherwise Q3 will be a disaster for their sub numbers.

[Chickat]

I'm not sure if Bashiok is teasing something on twitter, posting random screenshots with no context or words.

https://twitter.com/Bashiok

Screenshots seem to be (in order of being posted)

Outland - Hellfire Peninsula
Alliance Garrison with Ben Brode NPC
Ironforge (center, not sure of name mainly horde player)
Alliance Garrison again
Two images in one post, water with Draenei architecture looks like shadowmoon, second image is a farm in similar area as first

Maybe the day or two before Gamescom he will post screens from 7.0 zones and people will be confused?

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Much better to know it's legit.

So one huge area, that's probably Overwatch.

Three large ones, and four small ones. That's more booths than they'd need without some big announcement coming down the pipe. Question is what.

Could be a new game, or Warcraft 1/2/3 remake?

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Overwatch will be big, no doubt about that but in terms of an announcement? What is there to announce?
SC2 will has it's expansion soon so we might get a release date. Is it huge though? Not really.
Hearthstone had it's expansion announced, almost as if they don't want it to be overshadowed by a different announcement.
Heroes of the Storm has it's Eternal Conflic thingy, is it HUGE? I have no idea. (Not following it a whole lot)
Diablo 3 might have some spotlight, however it won't be playable this year so I doubt there will be big news. Also 2.3 will release soon.
WoW had 6.2 not to long ago. Would that justify it beeing playble though? I mean they could have handled it like Diablo and not make it playable however it will be.
A new IP/Game it could happen, like the past has shown blizzard announced smaller titles outside of blizzcon.

tl;dr:

It will either be WoW related (X6 or 6.3) or a new smaller title.

Either way, I think we have deduced that something exciting is coming out of Gamescom. Maybe not for WoW, but something new is coming. A new expansion or patch for a game, or a new game altogether.

[Gadzooks]

Either way, I think we have deduced that something exciting is coming out of Gamescom. Maybe not for WoW, but something new is coming. A new expansion or patch for a game, or a new game altogether.

With Blizzard's track record...I'd lower your expectations. A lot.

[zerocarbs]

With Blizzard's track record...I'd lower your expectations. A lot.

Lol seriously this is the truth. There's going to be a lot of hugely disapointed people. But the forum drama should be entertaining.

[Grimskull22]

Lol seriously this is the truth. There's going to be a lot of hugely disapointed people. But the forum drama should be entertaining.

if you're expecting insane rage, you'll be disappointed, the most that will happen is a lot of upset people just sighing and shaking their heads at blizzard's clear fuckup and missed opportunity.

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I am more interested how disappointed you would be after spending hours in talking to people that gamescom will bring x6 and it didn't happen. Oh it will be silent but I love the thought itself.

[Mayples]

I think we are just waiting for Gamescom at this point.

Indeed we are.

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[Chickat]

They've released a short trailer and announced single-player prologue missions (I got to play them and they're quite fun btw!)


That's what I think too. Patch 2.3 seems really amazing, it'd be insane for Blizzard to redirect people's attention to the expansion when they have such an awesome patch poised to release in the near future.

But... If we assume no D3 announcement at Gamescom, we have to consider the fact that Blizzard IS holding a conference, i.e. they will announce something. What could it really be? Overwatch beta, TGT (HS expansion) cards and release date, some HotS content, LOTV release date + cinematic are pretty much the only things they can do outside of WoW, but are they enough to justify holding a conference? And this, my friend, is why we speculate on potential big WoW announcement.


They did have a separate event for WoD release date and a cinematic at last year's Blizzcon though. They might do something like that again for SC II.


Maybe they are, maybe they aren't. That's the whole interesting thing here.

Maybe not individually, but what if they announce a bunch of smaller things like bullets being shot from a 6 shooter? Blizzard press conference. State of Blizzard Games.

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Blizzard still has the trademark "Cute But Deadly", which is possibly some unknown new IP. It would easily go with their Gamescom hype campaign about showing off what it is like being a Blizzard fan, with the hashtag #Cute attached.

Okay before anyone replies, I didn't know about "Cute But Deadly" already being a merchandise brand by Blizzard. I just saw some connection between the hype campaign and the trademark..

That was some kind of comic book or childrens book series to introduce blizzard IP to children. If I remember right that is.

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It also could be they are getting the hi-def versions of the three Warcraft RTS games into the kind of shape where they can show it or talk about it. That would create a stir and I could imagine that with the movie stuff progressing nicely they might want to push that up off the back burner. Release all three in a BattleChest type affair. They'd sell a bunch.

EDIT: Corrected other post from Wacky Wheels to Rock N' Roll Racing due to brain cramps.

Would they really do that before LoTV is out though? Gotta get those RTS sales right?

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They should make a Minecraft clone and call it

War...craft? Star...craft?

This is more difficult than I thought it would be.



I don't see them releasing any RTS independent to Starcraft. I could see them making a Warcraft expansion for Starcraft, though.

BlizzCraft. Blizzard worlds sandboxes. Different Biomes/maps for every franchice.

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Ok nwm.... I found it.

How long will it take before I know if my trademark application has been accepted?

The USPTO processes applications for recordal and renewal in the order in which they are received. In the event a submission does not contain all of the required elements, the USPTO will return the entire application, along with a letter explaining the missing elements. No fees are processed for incomplete applications. A new application containing all of the required elements must be submitted. Generally, processing time varies from 7 to 10 working days, with delays possible due to federal holidays.

So 7 days before Gamescom there must be application of trademark

But.. Wasnt Wrath trademarked like 2 or 3 days before Blizzcon?

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Doubtful. RTS games are a dying breed, and the possible remakes of WC 1-3 would be pure fan-service. Beyond the story, the Warcraft RTS games aren't that great by today's standards if you start thinking about it. They're fun and were amazing back in the day, but what really pushes you on is the story and setting. I'm not sure if that's enough to win new fans over in 2015, considering the mechanics might now feel a bit dated compared to games like Total War and Civ 5. Just look at all the cool stuff you can do in StarCraft 2, with cross-campaign upgrades and your own command central, etc. They basically had to reinvent the game and merge it with RPG to make it appealing.

Id be willing to bet that Warcraft 1/2&3 remade in HD for 60 dollars would sell millions of copies. Id guess 2m by the end of the first week. 5m after a year. Not fantastic, but not bad for an HD remake.

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So I found evidence that they CAN trademark sooner than 7-10 business days.

Wrath was trademarked July 28th 2007.
Wrath was Announced August 3rd 2007.
That is 7 days, and only 5 business days.

Unless there is some kind of delay between actual filing and what they mark as filed for date.

Proof here http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfi...810:lt0pn4.2.3
And here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_..._the_Lich_King Under development and Release.

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Pretty sure you can't. I've worked on products that get trademarked, for large corporations. The US Trademark office treats all applications the same - we're the only country where you can't bribe officials for stuff like this.

Funny that Wrath was only 5 days then.

[Viradiance]

So, to err on the side of optimism and assume that's not shopped... Is that a proper 7.0 client? With 7.0 data? That could be mined?

[L e g i o n]

Indeed we are.

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Does that mean 7.0 will be playable at Gamescom??

[Leefa]

Funny that Wrath was only 5 days then.

Process time =/= Time between trademark and announcement. They could trademark it today and the trademark wouldnt show up untill next week but it will still have a 7 day process time.

[L e g i o n]

No clue if this means anything but someone posted this in another thread and I thought i'd share it here..
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Notice the 7.0.

[Chickat]

Indeed we are.

What does that have to do with anything?

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Oh, I just noticed the 7.0. Surely thats fake and Marla is screwing with us. How would she/he even get it?

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Impossible.....

It can't be real, can it?

[Gadzooks]

Well for starters, the test realm is updated to Version 7.0.0.

If the expansion is shown at Gamescom, I'm going to have to go back to the WoW forums and bump all my posts from a month ago after Ion said he was appearing at Gamescom. It didn't make any sense for him to be going after he already had so many post 6.2 interviews, exhausting all there was to talk about the patch, and it being confirmed the last big patch of WoD.

You mean the PTR? Why would that be 7.0, when they're still testing 6.2.1?

[Chickat]

Process time =/= Time between trademark and announcement. They could trademark it today and the trademark wouldnt show up untill next week but it will still have a 7 day process time.

Yeah, but it says filing date. Idk I just thought it was interesting. Ill concede that I suppose. I kinda have too. I don't know enough about trademark law.

[crazyafgandudes]

Notice the 7.0.

welp thats confirmed now pretty much. mayples posted that

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Need confirmation before I even buy this shit.

[Chickat]

Well thats pretty much boosted my hype levels into overdrive.

If I had to guess, I'd say my Hype levels are over 9000!

[Feali]

Say it with me: H Y P E