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    Drag Queens banned from Gay Pride Event

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/drag-...-10403198.html

    Drag queens have been banned from performing at a Pride event in case they offend transgender people.

    Organisers of Free Pride Glasgow, which bills itself as an 'anti-commercialist' alternative to the Scottish city's main Pride event, have announced the controversial ban.

    Despite the fact that drag queens have been closely associated with Pride celebrations for most of their history, they will not be allowed to appear at the event next month in case they cause offence.

    A statement from the organisers said: “After much discussion, the trans and non binary caucus decided not to have drag acts perform at the event.

    “This does not mean that people of any gender can’t wear what they want to the event, we simply won’t be having any self-described drag acts perform at our Free Pride Event on August 22. "

    It added: "We hope people can understand and support our decision. However we feel it important to fully explain why we came this decision.

    “The decision was taken by transgender individuals who were uncomfortable with having drag performances at the event. It was felt that it would make some of those who were transgender or questioning their gender uncomfortable."

    The organisers of the main Pride Glasgow event said they understood the rationale behind the decision, but the banning of drag acts was "against what an inclusive event should be about."

    The organisers told Pink News: “Pride Glasgow believes that any community group should be given their place to flourish but that success should not be built on the negativity and ignorance towards other events, groups and like minded people and we are saddened to see that this is the direction that Free Pride has chosen to take.”
    They have a point here, aren't drag queens basically mocking real transgender people?
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    That's a nonsense argument that ignores what words mean.

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    Always amusing when the Left begins to cannibalize itself with these conundrums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luxxor View Post
    They have a point here, aren't drag queens basically mocking real transgender people?
    I do not believe drag queens and their act is an intended mockery of transgender people; if it's even a mockery at at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Austilias View Post
    Always amusing when the Left begins to cannibalize itself with these conundrums.
    Could not have said it better.

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    If anyone would be accepting of people with differing lifestyles and beliefs you'd think the transgendered would. It's like when a group reaches their goal they forget all the allies who helped them reach it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luxxor View Post
    They have a point here, aren't drag queens basically mocking real transgender people?
    Uuh, that's not how I perceive that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLittleBeast View Post
    I do not believe drag queens and their act is an intended mockery of transgender people; if it's even a mockery at at all.
    So if you are a drag queen who is a hetero male that likes to dress like a woman then you cant come?

    I'm so confused.
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    I feel bad for all those 'protesters' at the Trump rally, it's like the real life equivalent of making a 40 man raid in WoW and not having the boss spawn, thereby denying them a chance at looting.
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    That's a nonsense argument that ignores what words mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Austilias View Post
    Always amusing when the Left begins to cannibalize itself with these conundrums.
    Such an insightful and well-presented argument and/or point addressed in this post. I am sure that it will be the blossoming of an intellectual and engaging conversation between all parties involved.
    "Why of course the people don't want war…. But, after all… it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrbleedinggums View Post
    Such an insightful and well-presented argument and/or point addressed in this post. I am sure that it will be the blossoming of an intellectual and engaging conversation between all parties involved.
    You're on MMO-Champion. If you wanted intellectual and engaging conversation, you came to the wrong neighbourhood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luxxor View Post
    They have a point here, aren't drag queens basically mocking real transgender people?
    Eh... I don't know. I kinda thought they actually want to be like that. Like, it's an own thing, and not mocking.

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    well I'm sure trans women have a problem with being compared to drag queens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luxxor View Post
    So if you are a drag queen who is a hetero male that likes to dress like a woman then you cant come?

    I'm so confused.
    For starters, the article highlighted that people can come dressed as whatever and whoever they want, the Pride event simply won't be hosting drag performances.
    If you're personally asking me if drag queens should be allowed to perform, my answer would be "sure". I've never known drag performances to be a mockery of transgendered people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    If anyone would be accepting of people with differing lifestyles and beliefs you'd think the transgendered would. It's like when a group reaches their goal they forget all the allies who helped them reach it.
    Yeah. To me this sounds like a step back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luxxor View Post
    They have a point here, aren't drag queens basically mocking real transgender people?
    No they don't have a point. The main thing about the pride movement is suppose to be fair inclusion. I've ride on the PFLAG float several times over the year, should those be banned as well because of our heterosexuality? Humans make no fucking sense. Blacks and Jewish are judgemental as hell even tho they should know better since they know the consequences of that first hand. Gays and Lesbians and the rest of the lgbt community look down on each other just as much as the biggots who look down on them.
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    I'm baffled that something this simple can be so hard for some people... I guess we can't blame blizzard for dumbing down the game any longer, because apparently it very much needed :

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    So we're supposed to be accepting of gay people but not cross dressers? Sounds pretty intolerant to me. We should sue them for discrimination.

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    A Gay Pride which bans drags?

    What's next? An armed Peace March?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    They're not necessarily a mockery of trans women, though some may feel that way. It's a little more complicated than that, but (I'll explain what I know, but don't take this as a complete explanation) there is quite a bit of animosity between drag queens and trans women at times. In part it has to do with things like drag queens liberally tossing around words like "tranny" and trying to take ownership of slurs without regards for what a large number of trans women think. They also can often just generally be very insensitive to trans issues, including people who, as far as I can tell, are Tumblr darlings like Ru Paul. I don't know all of it. There are probably people who know a lot more about it than I do who would be better suited to explain it.
    This response is more enlightening. I can understand the animosity transgendered people may hold for some drag queens.

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    "non binary caucus"

    What does this mean? I understood what a 'trans' is, but I've never heard of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Austilias View Post
    You're on MMO-Champion. If you wanted intellectual and engaging conversation, you came to the wrong neighbourhood.
    Congrats, you just belittled yourself by reducing yourself to an incapability of having an intellectual and engaging conversation. Instead of wasting your life hating on others for their life choices when it doesn't affect others or tramples on their freedoms/rights, why not just avoid the situation to begin with?
    "Why of course the people don't want war…. But, after all… it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

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    Guys, I' am not an expert nor do I have any idea on what any of this means, but I do have a strong opinion on the matter.

    That being said, I don't see why they would be banned.

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