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  1. #281
    Well, after Warlords of Draenor, I'm not going to be definitely saying I believe it's fake. That means that, for now, I'll have to give it some credence, albeit cautiously so.

    In which case, it probably has to do with the problem Khadgar was going to pursue in the patch 6.2 end cinematic, and we're going to help him. That would say it's likely about the Legion (Gul'dan) again.

    In which case: bleh. Bleh, bleh, bleh. :c

  2. #282
    Quote Originally Posted by Protar View Post
    They didn't. It was Wrath of the Lich King. Just one The.
    Yet you somehow add a "the" before Cataclysm and Council of (the) Glades.

  3. #283
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvine View Post
    Its a fake. The Client Reference number "683706LXT/FJU/jnf" is the one for Warlords of Draenor and should be different.
    Quote Originally Posted by FenixAU View Post
    So there's one reason why this might be fake:

    The client reference (683706 LXT/FJU/jnf) is the same reference as Warlords of Draenor. Mists of Pandaria, etc, all have different client references.

    HOWEVER

    You can manually change the client reference ID to whatever you like in your account (including previously used IDs). If I wanted to obfuscate, even for a short period, it's something I might do.

    (re: Change Client Reference
    This is where you can change your case’s client reference. Simply search and select the case you wish to update client reference on. The update will happen in real-time once you have selected Accept. Neither history nor a notification will be created for this change.)

    With that in mind.. if this report is faked, it was done pretty amazingly (and kudos to them for the crafting, at least). Comparing this report to another report of filed and under application trademarks, pretty much everything lines up. Not even a single grammatical deviation. Even the formatting is perfect.
    See my post. You can change the client reference ID to whatever you like in your account, after you've filed. Done instantly, no history recorded (ref: http://www.iponz.govt.nz/cms/iponz/a...ces/your-inbox)

  4. #284
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    Did they say WoD was part of something "bigger" and WoD was just the first part, in that case it just makes sense with following up with the legion invading azeroth (something that has been build up) but instead of seeing an all out invasion they first let us play around with the council to prevent it, could even be they stretch it out so far we are only aware of an invasion near the end of the content, however that would be odd seeing what happened in WoD.

    And blizzard likes their orcs and mages as key players so medan is good combo for both.

    It seems more logical, than all the rest that has been proposed since every year we see the same theory about ashara, also every time i see something like 'demon hunter' class you can almost instantly dismiss it as more of a fan wish list than anything else.

  5. #285
    As mentioned, there's nothing on TMView or even the New Zealand Trademark Database under this name. I've searched for the name itself, checked everything under Blizzard and it's representatives, and even taken the case number provided in the PDF and searched for it manually, but it comes up as an error. When you search any of the other listed case numbers, they bring you to the trademark filing immediately. The only exception is 'Council of Glades'.





    There hasn't been any success in finding where the OP might have found this, and the trademark isn't on any official channels so far. Until there's evidence it could be real, I would seriously hazard anybody against getting excited or hyped. This could (and very well might be) fake. It's just a PDF, not an official filing. I cannot stress that last part enough.

  6. #286
    Quote Originally Posted by FenixAU View Post
    So there's one reason why this might be fake:

    The client reference (683706 LXT/FJU/jnf) is the same reference as Warlords of Draenor. Mists of Pandaria, etc, all have different client references.

    HOWEVER

    You can manually change the client reference ID to whatever you like in your account (including previously used IDs). If I wanted to obfuscate, even for a short period, it's something I might do.

    (re: Change Client Reference
    This is where you can change your case’s client reference. Simply search and select the case you wish to update client reference on. The update will happen in real-time once you have selected Accept. Neither history nor a notification will be created for this change.)

    With that in mind.. if this report is faked, it was done pretty amazingly (and kudos to them for the crafting, at least). Comparing this report to another report of filed and under application trademarks, pretty much everything lines up. Not even a single grammatical deviation. Even the formatting is perfect.
    Thanks for the info. What strikes me as odd, if everything is so well done, as you put it, and it's a fake then it means someone really put a lot of work into it. If so, how come a person who pays so much attention to detail fail to set a separate client reference number?

    That said, I believe your reasoning. Maybe an old number was used on purpose.

  7. #287
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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicGuitars View Post
    *Snip*
    Facepalming Metzen said it could be fake! This must mean it's TRUE!

    GITCHORE HYPE 'ERE, FRESH AN' LURVELY!

  8. #288
    Not sure about any of you, but Council of Glades sounds nicer to me than any other "option", Council of Tirisfal, or Council of the Glades.

    If this is legit, oh boy, oh boy. Hopes gotten up, no turning back now! Don't be afraid to step out and embrace the feeling.

  9. #289
    Quote Originally Posted by Oglaf View Post
    Why can't Boub come in here and show us his faked "Corgis 2: Electric Woofgaloo" trademark.
    Except that "The Dark Below" was real. It was filed on the wrong half of actiblizz but look it up. .. it's a DLC for destiny.

    So Corgis unleashed was obviously just damage control.

    Other than that there have been zero confirmed fake trademarks.

  10. #290
    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicGuitars View Post
    As mentioned, there's nothing on TMView or even the New Zealand Trademark Database under this name. I've searched for the name itself, checked everything under Blizzard and it's representatives, and even taken the case number provided in the PDF and searched for it manually, but it comes up as an error. When you search any of the other listed case numbers, they bring you to the trademark filing immediately. The only exception is 'Council of Glades'.





    There hasn't been any success in finding where the OP might have found this, and the trademark isn't on any official channels so far. Until there's evidence it could be real, I would seriously hazard anybody against getting excited or hyped. This could (and very well might be) fake. It's just a PDF, not an official filing. I cannot stress that last part enough.
    From my sleuthing, even publicly filed trademarks done on a Saturday through IPONZ don't appear until Tuesday/Wednesday the following week. OP does state it was a private filing (and I've seen indications on the IPONZ website that you can ask for confidentiality of anything you like, and it's up to the office on whether they provide). He also states it was an internally generated report, suggesting he works for the office.

    It could just be a convenient explanation for a hoax, but it could also very well be legitimate. There's just no way to tell at the moment.

  11. #291
    Quote Originally Posted by Gheld View Post
    Except that "The Dark Below" was real. It was filed on the wrong half of actiblizz but look it up. .. it's a DLC for destiny.

    So Corgis unleashed was obviously just damage control.

    Other than that there have been zero confirmed fake trademarks.
    Corgis Unleashed was filed by someone from these forums, not Blizzard. Eye of Azshara was filed and removed.

  12. #292
    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicGuitars View Post
    As mentioned, there's nothing on TMView or even the New Zealand Trademark Database under this name. I've searched for the name itself, checked everything under Blizzard and it's representatives, and even taken the case number provided in the PDF and searched for it manually, but it comes up as an error. When you search any of the other listed case numbers, they bring you to the trademark filing immediately. The only exception is 'Council of Glades'.



    There hasn't been any success in finding where the OP might have found this, and the trademark isn't on any official channels so far. Until there's evidence it could be real, I would seriously hazard anybody against getting excited or hyped. This could (and very well might be) fake. It's just a PDF, not an official filing. I cannot stress that last part enough.
    Thanks for diving into it, Cosmic. I want to be cautious, but not too dismissive either. Last time, I thought Warlords of Draenor was pure stupid, created by someone trying to troll the forums. The name seemed silly and any idea people could come up with about it seemed silly. (in the end, the whole concept of it was)

  13. #293
    Seems like it would be very impressive level of shadiness for a fake this legit seeming.

    Thusfar it's mostly been idiots shitposting:

    "My sister's father's nephew works for Blizzard and they said next expansion is Azshara farting out Tauren for her army to march on Moonglade!"

    Or that absolutely stupid twerking one that deserved infractions all around for people involved with that trolling mess.

  14. #294
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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicGuitars View Post
    As mentioned, there's nothing on TMView or even the New Zealand Trademark Database under this name. I've searched for the name itself, checked everything under Blizzard and it's representatives, and even taken the case number provided in the PDF and searched for it manually, but it comes up as an error. When you search any of the other listed case numbers, they bring you to the trademark filing immediately. The only exception is 'Council of Glades'.





    There hasn't been any success in finding where the OP might have found this, and the trademark isn't on any official channels so far. Until there's evidence it could be real, I would seriously hazard anybody against getting excited or hyped. This could (and very well might be) fake. It's just a PDF, not an official filing. I cannot stress that last part enough.
    The OP does say it is an internal report that doesn't appear yet on the public database. It can be a fake, but is the best "fake" leak I seen since Vanilla WoW.

  15. #295
    Quote Originally Posted by Andyssian View Post
    Thanks for the info. What strikes me as odd, if everything is so well done, as you put it, and it's a fake then it means someone really put a lot of work into it. If so, how come a person who pays so much attention to detail fail to set a separate client reference number?

    That said, I believe your reasoning. Maybe an old number was used on purpose.
    Yeah, that gets me. If it's a fake, they've put so much effort into making everything else perfect. Why slip up on just a client reference ID? Except for the fact that it's public knowledge that you can change the client ID at will, so maybe if it is a hoax, the hoaxer is using my rationalisation..

    Gah. Stupid conspiracy theories. Who the fuck knows.

  16. #296
    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicGuitars View Post
    There hasn't been any success in finding where the OP might have found this, and the trademark isn't on any official channels so far. Until there's evidence it could be real, I would seriously hazard anybody against getting excited or hyped. This could (and very well might be) fake. It's just a PDF, not an official filing. I cannot stress that last part enough.
    Of course it can be a fake. Until we get an announcement, any sort of leaked trademarks must be taked with a grain of salt

  17. #297
    Quote Originally Posted by FenixAU View Post
    From my sleuthing, even publicly filed trademarks done on a Saturday through IPONZ don't appear until Tuesday/Wednesday the following week. OP does state it was a private filing (and I've seen indications on the IPONZ website that you can ask for confidentiality of anything you like, and it's up to the office on whether they provide). He also states it was an internally generated report, suggesting he works for the office.

    It could just be a convenient explanation for a hoax, but it could also very well be legitimate. There's just no way to tell at the moment.
    Yup. Which is why I'm advocating for caution and a bit of patience. I don't want people to get whipped up into a fervor only to be disappointed if nothing is announced, based on an easily doctored PDF with some inconsistencies. It's possible that we'll see this trademark soon. Hell, we knew the name 'Warlords of Draenor' a day or so before the trademark appeared on the database, too. But, still. Don't believe everything you read!

  18. #298
    Alternate Azeroth expansion with Medan! calling it now /halfjoke

  19. #299
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    Quote Originally Posted by KrazyK923 View Post
    Or that absolutely stupid twerking one.
    Hey hey hey hey I spent an entire 5 minutes on that!

  20. #300
    Quote Originally Posted by Tenjen View Post
    Alternate Azeroth expansion with Medan! calling it now /halfjoke
    Med'an was already a halfjoke. The other half is cringeworthiness.

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