"Council of Glades" trademark filled

[Gamevizier]

I do because he seems like a nice guy and he's definetely not a new forum poster Also, I've briefly checked his post history and he didn't seem like a troll/liar to me.

In Fenix we trust.

[randomnamegenerator16]

According to this, strangely coincidental 'leak' a few days ago, there could be some Azshara for you in this expansion.

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...an+of+tirisfal

I had in mind fully blown Azshara expansion, like Golden Yak's Reign of Azshara (or whatever it was called, I don't remember right now).

[FenixAU]

Anybody knows if you can submit applications via mail or only via website?

Mail, in person, website.

[Chickat]

OP posted a PDF with a trademark leak for Council of Glades. It's supposed to be a leak from New Zealand. It doesn't say what franchise it's for, but it is said to have been registered recently by Blizzard. People started dissecting it and have came up with certain issues. Those have, at least partially, been countered with potential explanations.

The list of major issues and explanations:

1. CLIENT REFERENCE THE SAME AS WARLODS OF DRAENOR:
- OP's explanation: it's not common, but sometimes happens as the CR doesn't need to be unique for the application to be approved
- It was confirmed that the number can be changed at any time
- This could imply it's either Blizzard being lazy or trying to cover up their asses in case it got leaked
- Some forum users have allegedly worked with goverment systems and though it would seem logical that they'd have a unique CR requirement, their experience says that some of such systems are outdated and/or illogical which technically makes it possible for the NZ trademark registration to not have it (albeit it's rather unlikely)

2. META DATA ISSUE - FILE BEING EDITED IN A DIFFERENT PROGRAM:
- OP's explanation - he didn't send the leak from work and edited it at home to remove personal data that could point towards him as a source of the leak
- This explanation seems very reasonable, though keeping the original formatting of the PDF while editing might be problematic

3. APPLICATION FILLED ON SATURDAY:
- OPs explanation: other trademarks also have a filling date matching Saturday
- Official listing searches have confirmed this to be true
- The only issue that remains is that the site states that in case of an application being filed on Saturday, it will receive the filling date of the next work day, this could however be explained with the application being fairly new and not updated to match this cryteria on their internal servers (but it's weird considering the official database has listings with dates that are Saturdays)

4. TRADEMARK MISSING FROM OFFICIAL, BASIC SEARCH:
- OPs explanation: there is an option to hide the trademark until a desired date
- It was confirmed by FenixAU through a phone call to the trademark company that such option is indeed available

5. COG WEBSITE (COUNCILOFGLADES.COM) BOUGHT BY SOMEONE ELSE THAN BLIZZARD:
- OP doesn't work for Blizzard, so it's not his area to explain
- As other users have pointed out, out of all WoW expansions only WoD had a registered site with a similar name, so it's possible this was an experiment on Blizzard's part and the company decided no to do anything like that in the future

Other than that, people have been discussing lore (Council of Tirisfal seems a likely pick here) and the fact that some people find the name to sound "weird" and be "gramatically incorrect", but ultimately I don't think any conclusion was reached on the last topic.

Hm. Thanks. Ill mentally mark it as iffy but possible. Ill definitely keep an eye on it, but im not getting my hopes up.

[SunspotAnims]

If real, I couldn't be certain if it involves WoW or Diablo (sounds Diablo-y to me, but WoW isn't ruled out to me, either.) Uh, personally, I could only guess what it could mean in regards to WoW, I guess I have ideas but I'm not certain.

If fake, then, eh, fake stuff happens sometimes.

Still, Gamescom is just about a week away and Blizzard definitely has something to announce there, so, yeah, I'm pretty intrigued to see what happens. Only time will tell.

[Gheld]

So, I am NOT reading 52 pages. Can someone brief me on everything that has happened since it was discovered. Also do we think its real or not? I cant keep up with all these threads...

No trademark was actually filed. Fake or otherwise. The OP just "found" the pdf lying around somehow
Somebody checked the metadata on the pdf and the faker forgot to change it.
Somebody also checked the reference number on the alleged trademark filing on the pdf. It's the same reference number as another trademark filing. Meaning it's fake.

This has been debunked 100%.

[Chickat]

If you can use a previously-used client reference ID during the application process, then it disproves the idea that a duplicate-ID prevents the application to begin with.

If you can re-use a reference ID at the start of the application process, then the leaked TM application using the same reference as WoD is plausible. It just means that at the end of the examination phase, you have to input a new client reference. Which would be, presumably, after they've already announced so having a false client reference would no longer be necessary.

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You don't have to believe me, of course. You're welcome to duplicate everything I've done. I've been pretty open about it. In fact, I'd welcome you doing so, you have more forum cred than me

If memory serves though, I was the first to confirm that Lost Isles was online using the WoD alpha client back a week or so before the F&F Alpha started. Streamed it and all. Lying isn't my MO.

Not saying I dont believe you. Just wanted a background on you. See what your about. Also I have no idea how to check that stuff or what to even ask. Plus im from the US.

[FenixAU]

Not saying I dont believe you. Just wanted a background on you. See what your about. Also I have no idea how to check that stuff or what to even ask. Plus im from the US.

I am about cake, biscuits, and hating on trolls. In about that order.

You'd have a pretty solid idea on everything I've done if you read through the whole thread, but yeah, 53 pages is a lot. Don't blame you.

[flan1337]

I had in mind fully blown Azshara expansion, like Golden Yak's Reign of Azshara (or whatever it was called, I don't remember right now).

It would be cool to have multiple themes in one expansion, almost having a vanilla feeling(EI:No real big one plot line). With South Seas, Emerald Dream and the Glades thing it could make for a really crazy adventure.

[stellvia]

So I wonder when Blizzard will get back to the actual plotline moving forward instead of more alt-universe time-travel fanfiction circlejerking?

[randomnamegenerator16]

It would be cool to have multiple themes in one expansion, almost having a vanilla feeling(EI:No real big one plot line). With South Seas, Emerald Dream and the Glades thing it could make for a really crazy adventure.

Sounds good on paper, but I fear that it would probably mean that neither of those themes would be used to it's full potential.

[FenixAU]

If this is legit, who the hell knows what the story is about. There's some clues from 'Council of Glades', but nothing really screams out as a definite. It's another Mists of Pandaria.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

So I wonder when Blizzard will get back to the actual plotline moving forward instead of more alt-universe time-travel fanfiction circlejerking?

If this is a Council of Tirisfall expansion, I highly doubt we're getting anything other than AU Azeroth.

[Kalcheus]

So I wonder when Blizzard will get back to the actual plotline moving forward instead of more alt-universe time-travel fanfiction circlejerking?

The plotline is moving forward. Just because it's not moving in the direction you want to see doesn't mean it's not happening.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

If this is legit, who the hell knows what the story is about. There's some clues from 'Council of Glades', but nothing really screams out as a definite. It's another Mists of Pandaria.

The big thing it points to is the Council of Tirisfall, which was most active pre-First War.

Though that's if we substitute Tirisfall with Glades (Tirisfall Glades is the zone).

For all we know this could end up being a "Dark side of Azeroth" expansion, with the Glades being something about that new continent.

[Deleted]

It would be cool to have multiple themes in one expansion, almost having a vanilla feeling(EI:No real big one plot line). With South Seas, Emerald Dream and the Glades thing it could make for a really crazy adventure.

If done right. Cata was like that (sort of), and it felt a bit fragmented.

[Gamevizier]

If this is legit, who the hell knows what the story is about. There's some clues from 'Council of Glades', but nothing really screams out as a definite. It's another Mists of Pandaria.

I liked MoP's story just for this reason. We werent openly fighting a big baddie, the lack of focus on one entitiy in the story allowed the lore to be able to be expanded to different places and involve different races.

[Deleted]

The big thing it points to is the Council of Tirisfall, which was most active pre-First War.

Though that's if we substitute Tirisfall with Glades (Tirisfall Glades is the zone).

For all we know this could end up being a "Dark side of Azeroth" expansion, with the Glades being something about that new continent.

I think the Council was reformed after WotLK, and is now active again.

[ReVnX]

If this is a Council of Tirisfall expansion, I highly doubt we're getting anything other than AU Azeroth.

I'd rather have corgis if that's the case

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

I think the Council was reformed after WotLK, and is now active again.

Is it really that active?

The only thing I've ever seen them do was annoint Med'an as Mary Sue Guardian of Tirisfall.

Though one thing counting against this being a CoT expansion, why wouldn't they call it something about the inevitable main character? The Guardian of Tirisfall?