"Council of Glades" trademark filled

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It's not actually been proven yet, if I'm not mistaken you are the same one that kept yelling "proof" regarding the login screen as well.
I haven't seen any solid proof here that couldn't be explained by either the OP or someone looking into trademark applications like FenixAU or bluspacecow.

I have said that people didn't provide any proof as to why the login screen is fake. There was no proof. Only proof that pretty much everyone could've done it, which doesn't disprove the picture.

This however has been disproven because 1) it was edited by some dude named Ruben 2) the "trademark" was "registered" on a saturday and the office isn't open on saturday and 3) the ID is the same as the one from WoD.

This means some guy named Ruben edited it, messed up with the day and the ID, which he just copied from WoD, and picked a ridiculous name, that everyone with some sense left in them can spot from a mile away is fake.

Also there is no actual trademark in any trademark database. It's just a PDF file that could've been created by anyone. And by anyone I mean Ruben. Shame on anyone who believes this.

[Marlamin]

I have said that people didn't provide any proof as to why the login screen is fake. There was no proof. Only proof that pretty much everyone could've done it, which doesn't disprove the picture.

This however has been disproven because 1) it was edited by some dude named Ruben 2) the "trademark" was "registered" on a saturday and the office isn't open on saturday and 3) the ID is the same as the one from WoD.

This means some guy named Ruben edited it, messed up with the day and the ID, which he just copied from WoD, and picked a ridiculous name, that everyone with some sense left in them can spot from a mile away is fake.

Also there is no actual trademark in any trademark database. It's just a PDF file that could've been created by anyone. And by anyone I mean Ruben. Shame on anyone who believes this.

None of those things are 100% solid yet, though. Ruben could be the actual name of OP who said he edited it to remove the search query and an identifiable ID. This could theoretically be true, so not 100% solid;

The office's opening time is the only thing that could indicate this is a fake, but even that is not 100% solid as OP says he generated it from an internal report on a sunday which could work slightly differently compared to the published reports everyone can download off the site.

As for there not being a trademark, that could easily be explained by what IPONZ told Fenix, that it can be hidden from public view on request until it is further into the application process.

There was no proof. Only proof that pretty much everyone could've done it, which doesn't disprove the picture.

It's just a PDF file that could've been created by anyone.

As for that argument, you're kind of contradicting yourself there.

I don't know anything about trademarks, but I know a lot about the WoW client. So the login screen was clearly fake to me. However, as unproven real this trademark is to you, it is as unproven fake to me as the login screen was to you.

[FenixAU]

I have said that people didn't provide any proof as to why the login screen is fake. There was no proof. Only proof that pretty much everyone could've done it, which doesn't disprove the picture.

This however has been disproven because 1) it was edited by some dude named Ruben 2) the "trademark" was "registered" on a saturday and the office isn't open on saturday and 3) the ID is the same as the one from WoD.

This means some guy named Ruben edited it, messed up with the day and the ID, which he just copied from WoD, and picked a ridiculous name, that everyone with some sense left in them can spot from a mile away is fake.

Also there is no actual trademark in any trademark database. It's just a PDF file that could've been created by anyone. And by anyone I mean Ruben. Shame on anyone who believes this.

1. The dude's name likely is Ruben. He fucked up by not editing that out. He already said he edited out the search ID - and if you've worked with generated reports, you'd know they include such information. Nobody can be blamed for editing search ID out.
2. The IP application was submitted on a Saturday. If you go through the report, and the publicly accessible information, you'll find that this is not new for Blizzard. They've had at least 3, one of which was Warlords of Draenor, which had their IP applications submitted to IPONZ on a Saturday. Admittedly, the filing date is off, but it's quite likely that that simply wouldn't change until the trademark had been approved, or at least passed first examination (which can take 15+ business days).
3. The client reference ID is absolutely meaningless. You can set it to anything you like, at any time you like. It's no more or less legitimate for this. It's not set in stone information, it's not set by NZIPO.

You can state that it's fake until you're blue in the face, but you offer as much definitive evidence of your belief that it's fake as the OP does that it's legit. Less, even.

This very well could be fake, but it's not going to be because of these factors. They're too easy to spot, and too easily explained. Nobody that goes to this sort of effort is going to miss something that small. The burden of proof is, of course, on the OP. But it's too early to conclusively state one way or the other.

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None of those things are 100% solid yet, though. Ruben could be the actual name of OP who said he edited it to remove the search query and an identifiable ID. This could theoretically be true, so not 100% solid;

The office's opening time is the only thing that could indicate this is a fake, but even that is not 100% solid as OP says he generated it from an internal report on a sunday which could work slightly differently compared to the published reports everyone can download off the site.

As for there not being a trademark, that could easily be explained by what IPONZ told Fenix, that it can be hidden from public view on request until it is further into the application process.





As for that argument, you're kind of contradicting yourself there.

I don't know anything about trademarks, but I know a lot about the WoW client. So the login screen was clearly fake to me. However, as unproven real this trademark is to you, it is as unproven fake to me as the login screen was to you.

You're grasping for straws.

[Syrathia]

You're grasping for straws.

And you are arguing with one of the most trusted people on this site.

I don't understand how you can think he is grasping for straws. Please elaborate.

[Marlamin]

You're grasping for straws.

I would be if I was convinced this was real, but I'm not convinced of either right now. As Fenix said, this could very well be fake but it's too early to be able to definitively call it either.

And you are arguing with one of the most trusted people on this site.

None of this is backed up by my experience with the WoW client/datamining. I know as much as Oglaf does on this subject, and that's not much.

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Actually been looking at the database. And there are a lot of trademarks that have been filed on a saturday before.

So pretty much debunked the debunk that said saturday trademarks are fake.

[Paula Deen]

Just coming in to post, once again, that if this whole thing turns out to be fake, this is one of the most well done fakes I have seen on MMOC. 10/10 Troll OP

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Just coming in to post, once again, that if this whole thing turns out to be fake, this is one of the most well done fakes I have seen on MMOC. 10/10 Troll OP

It's not well done at all. I knew it was fake the moment I saw the name.

[Paula Deen]

It's not well done at all. I knew it was fake the moment I saw the name.

You cannot declare fake based on a name. Ever. It is something subjective.

[Marlamin]

You cannot declare fake based on a name. Ever. It is something subjective.

Unless it's Corgi's Unleashed. Then it's probably fake. Probably.

[Paula Deen]

Unless it's Corgi's Unleashed. Then it's probably fake. Probably.

It isn't fake. It is the only real WoW Expansion to date.

I miss the Dark Below Website with the Corgi's jumping into the water

[FenixAU]

None of this is backed up by my experience with the WoW client/datamining. I know as much as Oglaf does on this subject, and that's not much.

I'll give you the edge in knowing more on this subject than Oglaf. You, at least, know to keep an open mind when evidence is unclear

[Deleted]

Unless it's Corgi's Unleashed. Then it's probably fake. Probably.

dw the day they reinvent tamagotchi's it'll be real.

[FenixAU]

You cannot declare fake based on a name. Ever. It is something subjective.

I don't care if it's subjective, can I please declare Warlords of Draenor fake based on name alone?

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Unless it's Corgi's Unleashed. Then it's probably fake. Probably.

If Blizzard turned around and made this a real thing, I'd pay good money for it just for the laughs.

Awesome business idea Blizzard: You'll get at least a couple of CE's out of me.

[Sarethion]

It sure would feel just as exciting, because you still are playing current content. We all know expansions are looming for WoW. Were you excited for 6.2 after 6.1 was out? I was. It's all just around the corner.

There is a difference. If Blizzard posted the "Fury of the Hellfire" trailer for 6.2 before launching 6.1, I'd be excited for 6.2 not 6.1 I think a lot of us expect that another expansion for Diablo 3 is coming, but it's different to expect something than to actually see it announced.

Certain people might not join just for 2.3, but if you announce an expansion with a huge patch lurking, more people try the patch and catch up while waiting for Blizzcon.

But still, they will get the impression that they're playing an apetizer, not the actual main course

They won't annouce a damn expansion without any hype whatsoever. That makes no sense.

I agree with that. It's very likely that Blizzard will start dropping some little teasers soon if they're in fact preparing to announce something.

[Neviriah]

I agree with that. It's very likely that Blizzard will start dropping some little teasers soon if they're in fact preparing to announce something.

Either they have to announce something soon, if they want to get even more "people" to their booth at GC, or,- they really want to surprise us. I don't know what to believe at this point. Working in the gaming industry myself I can safely say that our company already sent out their teasers for GamesCom ^_^

[FenixAU]

If you're going to break with tradition, may as well go all out and do it in style.

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I've been looking through the NZ database, there's a lot of TM's that got filed in the weekend and they are all protected.

The big surprise is that those dates also never get changed, they remain on the saturday or sunday date.

However a lot of these a priority TM's. And it's very likely that if this TM is real, that it's also a priority date.

Which means it can be filed during the weekend, but the actual will be the date of the country they filed/or were granted it in first.

[Deleted]

You cannot declare fake based on a name. Ever. It is something subjective.

That is not true. If the PDF claimed Blizzard trademarked the name "Buttfucking of the Night Elves", not one single sane person would believe it was true.