14 EU guilds Versus 1 US guild

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So looking at Wowprogess.com there are currently 22 guilds which have downed Archimonde Mythic....

..but is there really only ONE US guild out of 22!?!?!?

There are 14 EU guilds and even 4 Chinese guilds who have downed it...!

Why are the US so far behind?

I always thought there were more US players than EU... is that not true anymore?

Also considering Blizzard famously hardly even communicate with the EU forums, doesnt this show that maybe Blizzard need to listen to the EU more than do?

[Primalthirst]

Not sure how this is news?

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If you count france/russia/others as EU (as you should) you also should include OC into US aka 2 Guilds. Also basicly same as last tier.

I think u will find that the french and russian realms are integrated into the EU realms... theyre all part of the same server network. Theyre simply seperated by language. We also all pay the same sub fee, just like the US does.

On top of that there are plenty of French German and Russians who play on the EU realms as opposed to their own language realms...

To all accounts the EU and US are clearly defined.

[zephid]

So looking at Wowprogess.com there are currently 22 guilds which have downed Archimonde Mythic....

..but is there really only ONE US guild out of 22!?!?!?

There are 14 EU guilds and even 4 Chinese guilds who have downed it...!

Why are the US so far behind?

I always thought there were more US players than EU... is that not true anymore?

Also considering Blizzard famously hardly even communicate with the EU forums, doesnt this show that maybe Blizzard need to listen to the EU more than do?

This is not something new, it has been like this for a very long time.

[Neri25]

Broseph, have you ever tried asking for multiple consecutive weeks off from your job?

US top 10 guilds simply have a smaller pool of apps to pull from. It shows in every raid tier.

[ablib]

I see 14 EU, and 2 NA guilds.

Still a a wide spread. But it's always been this way.

There is a reason the United States #1 -- we don't waste our minds on video games.

[RoKPaNda]

Americans don't take this style of game nearly as seriously anymore.

[ablib]

Broseph, have you ever tried asking for multiple consecutive weeks off from your job?

This. Outside the US, where the governments condone laziness (Socialism), it's probably common to take a month or more off a year for video games. In the US, 2 weeks is probably the norm. If that.

Edit: I have realized this thread is going to turn in to a USA vs the world thread...and it won't end well. truth hurts for some.

[xenogear3]

US low employment.
Europe has too many unemployed?

[Stevegasm]

I always thought it had something to do with the bad working conditions we have in North America, USA being even worse than Canada. Work weeks are longer, much less vacation time, and all that. My playing time drops drastically during certain times of the year, as do my friends.

[Deleted]

So... you basicly agree with me but still dont count OC as US. OKAY
P.S: I'm playing on the EU Servers aswell.

Sure, if u want to include Oceanic with US thats cool with me... my point still stands tho... how massivley far away US is to EU.

And yet Blizzard listen to the US almost exclusively for their feedback... now thats just dumb right.

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This. Outside the US, where the governments condone laziness (Socialism), it's probably common to take a month or more off a year for video games. In the US, 2 weeks is probably the norm. If that.

Edit: I have realized this thread is going to turn in to a USA vs the world thread...and it won't end well. truth hurts for some.

Total fukkcing garbage.

The UK famously has the lowest amount of holiday in Europe at about 24-30 days. And i know u will find much the same in USA.

Its a total myth that Americans work harder than the rest oif the world... Its more accurate to say u guys are the most brainwashed, thats more true than your stupid statement.

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[hyphnos]

Sure, if u want to include Oceanic with US thats cool with me... my point still stands tho... how massivley far away US is to EU.

And yet Blizzard listen to the US almost exclusively for their feedback... now thats just dumb right.

Only if # of guilds finishing mythic in a region is representative of the number of subscribers in the region. If the US has more subs than the EU it would make more sense to listen more to US players/forums and vice versa if there are more players in the EU.

One thing is certain though, as a proxy measure for how many subs there are in a region, the sample of under 500 players that have beaten mythic archimonde isn't by any reason something you would pick as a valid measure of who to listen to and you can bet, that those elite 500 players do get listened too far more than most other regardless of being in the US or EU.

[Cebel]

Sure, if u want to include Oceanic with US thats cool with me... my point still stands tho... how massivley far away US is to EU.

And yet Blizzard listen to the US almost exclusively for their feedback... now thats just dumb right.

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Total fukkcing garbage.

The UK famously has the lowest amount of holiday in Europe at about 24-30 days. And i know u will find much the same in USA.

Its a total myth that Americans work harder than the rest oif the world... Its more accurate to say u guys are the most brainwashed, thats more true than your stupid statement.

Wish I got 24-30 days of paid vacation. Jesus... I'd be happy with 14 days instead of the 10 I get.

[Mammoon]

Sure, if u want to include Oceanic with US thats cool with me... my point still stands tho... how massivley far away US is to EU.

And yet Blizzard listen to the US almost exclusively for their feedback... now thats just dumb right.

I don't think Blizzard listens to the US almost exclusively for their feedback (if they listen to any feedback at all) and I would love to see where you are pulling these facts from. It has been known for a long time that there aren't as many devoted/skilled US guilds compared to EU guilds... so for you to beat the dead horse some more... "now thats just dumb right."

Total fukkcing garbage.

The UK famously has the lowest amount of holiday in Europe at about 24-30 days. And i know u will find much the same in USA.

Its a total myth that Americans work harder than the rest oif the world... Its more accurate to say u guys are the most brainwashed, thats more true than your stupid statement.

Most American jobs give 10-15 vacation days... and this is assuming office jobs. I would say most WoW players don't have office jobs (students/food industry/retail etc), and are therefore lucky if they have any vacation at all. There are is also sick time and actual holidays, but most employers want some kind of doctor's note if you call into work sick for 10 straight days and you can't exactly schedule when a holiday is (if your job even closes on that particular holiday).

[RoKPaNda]

Sure, if u want to include Oceanic with US thats cool with me... my point still stands tho... how massivley far away US is to EU.

And yet Blizzard listen to the US almost exclusively for their feedback... now thats just dumb right.

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Total fukkcing garbage.

The UK famously has the lowest amount of holiday in Europe at about 24-30 days. And i know u will find much the same in USA.

Its a total myth that Americans work harder than the rest oif the world... Its more accurate to say u guys are the most brainwashed, thats more true than your stupid statement.

That wasn't necessary at all. :/ Way too angry dude, way too angry.

[Akaena]

Fact is outside of 2-3 guilds that raide 5+ days now a days. WE don't care, that's all it is we have better things to use our vacation on. Its pretty old and stupid to have bring this up every tier now. Stop being obsessive about other regions if your not part of the .1% of guilds racing still to #1.

[alexkeren]

Although U.S. Blizzard doesn't post on EU Forums, as for raiding guess what all those EU guilds do during PTR?

If you said anything but sign onto PTR and do the majority of the raid testing and feedback providing, you'd be wrong.

Blizzard doesn't communicate via one channel (medium), nor do they not go outside the various Blizzard forums to find feedback.

[Deleted]

Wish I got 24-30 days of paid vacation. Jesus... I'd be happy with 14 days instead of the 10 I get.

This doesnt show that u guys work harder... it shows that u guys need to stand up for your rights ffs.

[hyphnos]

Sure, if u want to include Oceanic with US thats cool with me... my point still stands tho... how massivley far away US is to EU.

And yet Blizzard listen to the US almost exclusively for their feedback... now thats just dumb right.

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Total fukkcing garbage.

The UK famously has the lowest amount of holiday in Europe at about 24-30 days. And i know u will find much the same in USA.

Its a total myth that Americans work harder than the rest oif the world... Its more accurate to say u guys are the most brainwashed, thats more true than your stupid statement.

LOL, while it sucks for you that you don't get as many days as other Europeans, you really have no idea about US vacation time. Hourly wage workers typically don't get ANY paid vacation and MIGHT be allowed to take a week off without pay. In the area where I work, the large businesses that are left in manufacturing only the bosses get paid vacations and that is maybe 10 or 15 work days off - the lower end people work when they are given hours and if they are not working they are not getting paid.

The US average is around 11 days and in many jobs actually taking your vacation can result in negative reviews and loss of promotions to people who don't take theirs. See this article about the 169 million lost vacation days not taken by Americans in 2013 or 2014. http://www.bls.gov/news.release/ebs.t05.htm

In any case, I envy any European in terms of vacation days, maternity/paternity leave, sick leave, national health care and a great many other things that for some reason any number of Americans somehow feel we are better off without.

Back to the point, I don't think necessarily that Europeans having better work life balance than the US is the reason for fewer US guilds, but you guys should be aware even in the UK you have it far far better than we do.

As for mythic guilds, we could just as easily adopt the notion that Americans just have better sense than to put so much emphasis on a video game but more likely it is just that the people that do put that much time into gaming in the US don't play MMOs as much as they used to for whatever reason.

[Deleted]

As for mythic guilds, we could just as easily adopt the notion that Americans just have better sense than to put so much emphasis on a video game but more likely it is just that the people that do put that much time into gaming in the US don't play MMOs as much as they used to for whatever reason.

There are more players playing Wow in the US than the EU so how does this add up?

Surely the more players equates to more strong guilds right?

Maybe its just the Americans who are playing Wow casually and as Blizzard only listens to the US forums thats why theyve designed the game like this? lol