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  1. #501
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    do we use the normal gems like quick azunite etc?

  2. #502
    Shadowmourne has been dethroned. The loss of all the DPS increase artifact traits was hugely noticeable on my first attempts at Timewalking. The Strength proc is no longer as valuable, either defensively or offensively. I found I had nearly double the DPS on my Blood DK with my DPS built artifact than with SM. Kinda sad, but then I already had to give up Shadowmourne for Cata Timewalking so I think the writing is on the wall.

    I wish there was a way to simulate in the Timewalking dungeon, or just a random Training Dummy in an instance you could recount. The thing I'm trying to figure out if whether it is better to keep the old Primary stat rings or take a Legion-era ring with only secondary stats but a much bigger budget for them. Also I hear the trinket from Withered Jim doesn't scale down hardly at all in comparison tho I don't have it myself to test.

  3. #503
    Timewalking is beyond broken right now. Our class hall set not scaling down is just one of many bugs.

    Some things I noticed from only a few runs that doesn't scale properly and do damage as if you were 110: Mage JC neck will one-shot anything on a 5 min cd. sPriest Void Tendrils. Fishbrul Special

    Full DK group with class hall sets could probably clear dungeons in a few minutes with Bear Tartare speed buff. Not sure if Blizz would punish this kind of "exploiting" though.
    Last edited by Shogol; 2016-10-13 at 12:25 PM.

  4. #504
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baddok21 View Post

    well this entire endeavor is pretty much pointless DK class hall set does not scale down in TW

    giving you 500 STR (basicly 25 +20 STR gems)
    and 2000 mastery on proc ( 320%+ Mastery)

    no amount of gems/optomized gear is going to rival that so, i guess this is all pointless now
    lmao no way, that shit's gonna get nerfed asap

  5. #505
    Quote Originally Posted by olisaurus View Post
    lmao no way, that shit's gonna get nerfed asap
    It has now been hotfixed

    Timewalking BiS can continue again as planned

    DK Class hall set is not +13 STR (down from 500 lol)
    DK Class hall set bonus is now 51 mastery (down from 2000)

  6. #506
    Quote Originally Posted by Baddok21 View Post
    It has now been hotfixed

    Timewalking BiS can continue again as planned

    DK Class hall set is not +13 STR (down from 500 lol)
    DK Class hall set bonus is now 51 mastery (down from 2000)
    Aw dang, finally had time to play and wanted to test that shit out!

    Guess as blood, you just take what ever got a bunch of haste on?
    Quote Originally Posted by atenime45 View Post
    The 10% reward. It's was unspoken rule that you DONT attack other faction so everyone could enjoy the 10% reward. But now no one cares about that anymore

  7. #507
    going to bump this since it will be somewhat relevant for Timewalking raid released in 7.2.5 and possibly future Timewalking raid releases

  8. #508
    Quote Originally Posted by Baddok21 View Post
    going to bump this since it will be somewhat relevant for Timewalking raid released in 7.2.5 and possibly future Timewalking raid releases
    Didn't they make it so tier set bonuses don't work anymore though? So pretty much just go with what ever pieces you can find with a bunch of sockets and bis stats, and you should be golden.

    But , I had actually forgotten about this thread! So perhaps it was time to bump it.
    Quote Originally Posted by atenime45 View Post
    The 10% reward. It's was unspoken rule that you DONT attack other faction so everyone could enjoy the 10% reward. But now no one cares about that anymore

  9. #509
    Quote Originally Posted by Feederino Senpai View Post
    Didn't they make it so tier set bonuses don't work anymore though? So pretty much just go with what ever pieces you can find with a bunch of sockets and bis stats, and you should be golden.

    But , I had actually forgotten about this thread! So perhaps it was time to bump it.
    WoD and Legion set bonuses are still active, and LFR WoD bonuses as well if your interested in farming that.

    Crown of the Golden Golem
    Prizerock Neckband
    Gong-Lu, Strength of Xuen
    Spellbound Runic Band of Elemental Power
    Avenger's Trillium Waistplate
    Sabatons of the Superior Being

    while you will in all likely hood be locked to T18/19/20 Chest/legs/shoulder/gloves and some accompanying legendaries there is still a host of Trinkets and off pieces to collect along with different combinations Tier where you could run 2pc/2pc/2pc or 2pc/4pc with 3 (soon to be 4) Tier sets to play around with.

    Just fun Novelty really
    Last edited by Baddok21; 2017-05-31 at 09:23 PM.

  10. #510
    Quote Originally Posted by Baddok21 View Post
    WoD and Legion set bonuses are still active, and LFR WoD bonuses as well if your interested in farming that.

    Crown of the Golden Golem
    Prizerock Neckband
    Gong-Lu, Strength of Xuen
    Spellbound Runic Band of Elemental Power
    Avenger's Trillium Waistplate
    Sabatons of the Superior Being

    while you will in all likely hood be locked to T18/19/20 Chest/legs/shoulder/gloves and some accompanying legendaries there is still a host of Trinkets and off pieces to collect along with different combinations Tier where you could run 2pc/2pc/2pc or 2pc/4pc with 3 (soon to be 4) Tier sets to play around with.

    Just fun Novelty really
    I agree, thats why I created this thread ages ago, because I find it very fun to play around with different set combos. Didn't know WoD bonuses still worked though, thanks for the info there.
    Quote Originally Posted by atenime45 View Post
    The 10% reward. It's was unspoken rule that you DONT attack other faction so everyone could enjoy the 10% reward. But now no one cares about that anymore

  11. #511
    Which gems scale the best at level 70? Strength for Frost I assume?

  12. #512
    Strength Gems are not bad at all, though you generally get more mileage out of Secondary stats.

    Just make sure the Gems you use are epic as common and rare quality gems do not hold there value in Timewalking.

    if you scroll up alittle you will see a list of all the best enchants to use.

    Greater Tiger Fang Inscription
    Angerhide Leg Armor
    Super Strength
    Greater Assault
    Glorious Stats
    Major Strength
    Enchanted Pearl

  13. #513
    Do you think combining bonuses of tier 17/18/19 would be better than gear with the most gem slots? Was thinking 2 piece tier 18/4 piece tier 19 as Frost.

    Or maybe the CoS/Arcway 2 piece sets are worthwhile?

    I know it doesn't matter...just something to do haha.
    Last edited by adamthemute; 2017-06-11 at 05:16 AM.

  14. #514
    Quote Originally Posted by adamthemute View Post
    Do you think combining bonuses of tier 17/18/19 would be better than gear with the most gem slots? Was thinking 2 piece tier 18/4 piece tier 19 as Frost.

    Or maybe the CoS/Arcway 2 piece sets are worthwhile?

    I know it doesn't matter...just something to do haha.
    This tuesday should be MoP Timewalking (hopefully they force a BC timewalking instead for BT TW raid) but you generall dont want "stat buff" 2 pcs as the stat buffs reduced significantly, the gial is to go for very strong 2 pc bonuses that either make the spec more enjoyable/smooth/powerful.

    T19 2 pc is strong since you will have more rimes to spend, meaning stronger cleave and single target and it suppliments a reduced downtime.

    T20 2pc is strong since you will have extended pillars to work with which is just a no brainer really (might not be available though for BT timewalk first go round)

    T18 2pc is 3% melee haste and 6% crit dmg on Obliterate and Frost strike respectively (you might not get alot of use out of Frost strike buff unless you find areas to weave it in (probably unlikely if the rest of your set is twinked).

    T17 2pc is 30 RP generated whenever you hit Pillar (this is a nice perk to have)

    T17 4pc is really fun to use and pretty strong if you pair it with T20 2pc for exteneded Pillars and possibly take the talent that reduces the CD on pillar as well (you can have fun experimenting).

    the Idea of running 2pc/2pc/2pc is mainly for those who did not play in MoP and therefore do not have access to the legendary cloak (it is basically a 2 pc bonus on its own) i myself will be running helm with legendary gem+socket and a cloak so i can only wear 4 pcs of tier.

    by using 4 pieces of Tier I am giving up

    3 socket chest (+11 STR socket bonus) (+8 stats enchant)
    3 socket legs ( +11 STR socket bonus) (+19 atk pwr, +11 crit enchant)
    3 socket shoulders (+8 STR socket bonus) (+15 STR, +5 crit enchant)
    2 socket gloves (+8 STR socket bonus)(+25 STR enchant)

    all with BiS stat set-ups as well

    so remember even though your getting Tier bonuses your still giving up ALOT in comparison to use them
    Last edited by Baddok21; 2017-06-11 at 01:17 PM.

  15. #515
    Just wondering if people are still interested in playing around with this information, especially after the TW buff that made these dungeons take much longer.

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