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    Is this assuming that all people recycle... I know very few people that actually recycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orlong View Post
    There is tons of open flat desert land that cant be used for development in New Mexico, Arizona, and Texas. There is also a lot of unused land in Montana and Alaska
    That's not a reason to befoul it with garbage.

    All land has a use for the environment and ecology at large. Just because it is a desert or not easily used by us for living space doesn't mean we need to destroy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orlong View Post
    And 2 small sodas cost more than 1 large
    Good. Consider it a fat tax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsithis View Post
    That's not a reason to befoul it with garbage.

    All land has a use for the environment and ecology at large. Just because it is a desert or not easily used by us for living space doesn't mean we need to destroy it.
    Moreover, lots of stuff lives underground. It's not just a bunch of dirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsithis View Post
    That's not a reason to befoul it with garbage.

    All land has a use for the environment and ecology at large. Just because it is a desert or not easily used by us for living space doesn't mean we need to destroy it.
    It doesnt destroy the land to bury styrofoam 25 feet below the ground

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orlong View Post
    It doesnt destroy the land to bury styrofoam 25 feet below the ground
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orlong View Post
    It doesnt destroy the land to bury styrofoam 25 feet below the ground
    You're joking, right? You can't be real. No one can truly believe these things. It has to be some kind of attempt to rile up the forum. But, just in case you're not trying to troll me:

    Yes, yes it does. First, you damage the ground, period, just by digging it up. You erode the topsoil by killing the plants that were previously growing on it; read up on the dust bowl issues of the 1900's. Second, these materials do degrade, just not in the way you're thinking. Chemicals from this stuff being buried leeches into soil and can contaminate groundwater reserves and wells, most of which are obviously beneath the "ground". Third, you disrupt the habitat of the animals that live on and under the ground where you've so carelessly decided to bury your crap. They will frequently eat it, not realizing it's not food, which is a quick way to lead to either species extinction in the area or genetic abnormalities depending on how it affects them.

    None of this is good. There is a reason why stuff like this was banned prior to recycling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orlong View Post
    It doesnt destroy the land to bury styrofoam 25 feet below the ground
    Are you serieus ? How can you have such utter disregard for (environmental) safety ?

    Every time I see an other Orlong thread, I lose a little bit of hope for humanity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orlong View Post
    And 2 small sodas cost more than 1 large
    Hey, companies are in business to make money, right? Too bad. Pay up, fat asses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodkin View Post
    Are you serieus ? How can you have such utter disregard for (environmental) safety ?

    Every time I see an other Orlong thread, I lose a little bit of hope for humanity.
    Welcome to free market libertarianism. I hope you enjoy your stay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quetzl View Post
    Welcome to free market libertarianism. I hope you enjoy your stay.
    No. Welcome to anti-intellectualism, where people frequently avoid critical thinking and research before speaking, then ardently defend their indefensible, unsubstantiated, proven-wrong opinion to the death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsithis View Post
    You're joking, right? You can't be real. No one can truly believe these things. It has to be some kind of attempt to rile up the forum. But, just in case you're not trying to troll me:

    Yes, yes it does. First, you damage the ground, period, just by digging it up. You erode the topsoil by killing the plants that were previously growing on it; read up on the dust bowl issues of the 1900's. Second, these materials do degrade, just not in the way you're thinking. Chemicals from this stuff being buried leeches into soil and can contaminate groundwater reserves and wells, most of which are obviously beneath the "ground". Third, you disrupt the habitat of the animals that live on and under the ground where you've so carelessly decided to bury your crap. They will frequently eat it, not realizing it's not food, which is a quick way to lead to either species extinction in the area or genetic abnormalities depending on how it affects them.

    None of this is good. There is a reason why stuff like this was banned prior to recycling.
    Don't argue with Orlong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsithis View Post
    No. Welcome to anti-intellectualism, where people frequently avoid critical thinking and research before speaking, then ardently defend their indefensible, unsubstantiated, proven-wrong opinion to the death.
    Yes, that's what I said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    Don't argue with Orlong.

    Just don't. It's not a fight that can be won.



    I feel like all Orlong threads need this disclaimer...
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    lol they suuuure were really oppressing us with the kind of material you could use for a fuckin egg carton.
    We use paper carton for eggs. Never seen them in another type of packaging material. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quetzl View Post
    Welcome to free market libertarianism. I hope you enjoy your stay.
    It's just that I still am surprised by the wastefullness of our current consumer economy, and the willingness of the consumers to participate. Why do so many people not realize that our recourses are finite ? Is it foluntary ignorance ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsithis View Post
    No. Welcome to anti-intellectualism, where people frequently avoid critical thinking and research before speaking, then ardently defend their indefensible, unsubstantiated, proven-wrong opinion to the death.
    Or we just dont want to be forced to make sacrifices and inconvenience and disrupt our life. Much like water and electricity, we like to take the path of least resistance

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    Thought the soda ban was already thrown out? And aren't they trying to introduce another idiotic ban pertaining to kids meals and the toy? NY is full of morons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    We use paper carton for eggs. Never seen them in another type of packaging material. :P
    I've seen them in polystyrene, but they're always the cheap salmonella caged eggs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orlong View Post
    Or we just dont want to be forced to make sacrifices and inconvenience and disrupt our life.
    It's just a plastic material, get off your high horse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orlong View Post
    Or we just dont want to be forced to make sacrifices and inconvenience and disrupt our life. Much like water and electricity, we like to take the path of least resistance
    Your statement has nothing to do with what I said, but I'll address it anyway.

    Convenience should not come at the expense of the world. We're not the only creatures on this planet, and this planet is not designed to be metastasized like a cancer. If we want it to last for our children (and, at this point, for some of us already adults), we need to stop dicking around.

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