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  1. #621
    Quote Originally Posted by Vyxn View Post
    so are you claiming it is a right for an admitted pedophile to be allowed to work around children if he so chooses to?
    I'm telling you that you would never know if they didn't tell you anyway. This is a person that has not committed a crime. Do you really want to be in the business of punishing people that aren't actually guilty of anything? I thought we "SJW's" were supposed to be the facist thought police.

  2. #622
    Quote Originally Posted by Fyve View Post
    I see their concerns though. Pedophiles are sexually attracted to children, and children are quite vulnerable and often easily influenced. Allowing a pedophile to work with children puts extreme temptation on their plate, and won't help with their condition at all. I agree though, we should take a "Help them" rather than "Kill them" approach, but one step at a time.

    Allowing them to work with kids is too risky.
    Maybe when they are in recovery. They will be exposed to children. In a place with cameras and surveillance, they will be able to be monitored. I do understand their fears, but a lot of it stems from misinformation.
    Quote Originally Posted by scorpious1109 View Post
    Why the hell would you wait till after you did this to confirm the mortality rate of such action?

  3. #623
    Quote Originally Posted by Zantos View Post
    Honestly, I would say its people with your mindset who should be isolated on an island and just left. First of all, a pedophile is Not a rapist. They are not evil. Their existence is not disgusting. They have done nothing wrong. Its like any other sexual orientation, they cannot help it.

    I honestly think our society needs to focus on helping them rather than persecuting them and acting like a barbarian such as the person I quoted. Instead of helping them fight their urges, they are now running around having to try, and failing at times, to control their urges. They need help. Acting as if they are inherently evil doesn't help the matter, it just makes it worse.

    You don't look at someone who has an illness and tell them go somewhere else. That might spread it and cause more harm. Its the same thing here. Help them to lower any chances that they will turn into a rapist or harm anyone.

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    Yes. They are Not a rapist. They have committed no crimes. In some cases, when someone is afraid of something, exposure is actually the best cure.
    why would a pedophile want to work around children if they don't want to act on the pedophilia why would they want that temptation
    it word be the same as a recovering alcoholic wanting to be a bartender

  4. #624
    Quote Originally Posted by Vyxn View Post
    why would a pedophile want to work around children if they don't want to act on the pedophilia why would they want that temptation
    it word be the same as a recovering alcoholic wanting to be a bartender
    They very likely wouldn't. This is your hypothetical.

  5. #625
    Quote Originally Posted by rhackin View Post
    Okay smart guy. I immediately consult a psychologist, psychiatrist, a pastor, and God himself. I would do my best to purge these thoughts from my head.
    You consult all of these people but your boner remains. What next?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vyxn View Post
    one reason homosexuality isn't harmful it doesn't cause a dysfunction to one self or acting on it. pedophilia does

    "A mental disorder is a syndrome characterized by clinically significant disturbance in an individual's cognition, emotion regulation, or behavior that reflects a dysfunction in the psychological, biological, or developmental processes underlying mental functioning. Mental disorders are usually associated with significant distress in social, occupational, or other important activities. An expectable or culturally approved response to a common stressor or loss, such as the death of a loved one, is not a mental disorder. Socially deviant behavior (e.g., political, religious, or sexual) and conflicts that are primarily between the individual and society are not mental disorders unless the deviance or conflict results from a dysfunction in the individual, as described above."
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...ental-disorder
    Correct, that's the definition of dysfunction. However it should be apparent that this can just as easily be socially relative - the reason the individual is stressed about their paraphilia is that it's socially unacceptable and the conflict may even be internalised.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spunt View Post
    Doesn't change the fact that is still a mental disorder and it adversely affects children.
    What is and is not a "mental disorder", and what a mental disorder even is, is subjective. Agencies like the AMA and manuals like the DSM make their own determinations based on their own views but none of this stuff is set in stone. It can change and has changed significantly, especially in the field of sexuality. What's to say pedophilia is any different?
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    Look Batman really isn't an accurate source by any means
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    It is a fact, not just something I made up.

  6. #626
    Quote Originally Posted by buck008 View Post
    I'm telling you that you would never know if they didn't tell you anyway. This is a person that has not committed a crime. Do you really want to be in the business of punishing people that aren't actually guilty of anything? I thought we "SJW's" were supposed to be the facist thought police.
    so which would you rather have you child's elementary school teacher be a pedophile and you not know it or knowing he is because he admitted as such and you cant do anything about it

  7. #627
    Quote Originally Posted by Vyxn View Post
    why would a pedophile want to work around children if they don't want to act on the pedophilia why would they want that temptation
    it word be the same as a recovering alcoholic wanting to be a bartender
    "shrug" Maybe they would view it as the most sure fire way to ensure that 1) they are cured and 2) they have the will power to resist.
    Quote Originally Posted by scorpious1109 View Post
    Why the hell would you wait till after you did this to confirm the mortality rate of such action?

  8. #628
    Quote Originally Posted by Vyxn View Post
    so which would you rather have you child's elementary school teacher be a pedophile and you not know it or knowing he is because he admitted as such and you cant do anything about it
    So you are just going to ignore the Constitutional problem you want to create to throw more inane hypotheticals at me?

  9. #629
    Quote Originally Posted by Vyxn View Post
    so which would you rather have you child's elementary school teacher be a pedophile and you not know it or knowing he is because he admitted as such and you cant do anything about it
    Whats the difference other than the fear created from probably being misinformed or thinking that because they are a pedophile that means they are automatically a rapist or will harm the children in some way.
    Quote Originally Posted by scorpious1109 View Post
    Why the hell would you wait till after you did this to confirm the mortality rate of such action?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhackin View Post
    Okay smart guy. I immediately consult a psychologist, psychiatrist, a pastor, and God himself. I would do my best to purge these thoughts from my head.

    What I would NOT do: I would not accept this as perfectly normal "you love who you love" bullshit. I certainly would not write blogs to the world about how they should accept me because I embrace who I am and cannot change while spending all my free time jacking it to elementary school yearbooks.
    Sounds like one of those 'fix gays' camp

  11. #631
    What you hate are child predators. Not pedophiles.
    Well said... but that doesn't make me think pedophiles are any less creepy.

    Having said that, so long as people aren't awkwardly bringing up the fact they are one in conversations and keeping it private I don't see how it could be a problem.

  12. #632
    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    You consult all of these people but your boner remains. What next?



    Correct, that's the definition of dysfunction. However it should be apparent that this can just as easily be socially relative - the reason the individual is stressed about their paraphilia is that it's socially unacceptable and the conflict may even be internalised.
    it is not because it is socially unacceptable it is because it is harmful
    Homosexuality was at one timed considered a mental disorder because at the time is was socially unacceptable but harmful to no one
    pedophilia is harmful and why it is socially unacceptable and always should be

  13. #633
    Quote Originally Posted by Vyxn View Post
    pedophilia is harmful and why it is socially unacceptable and always should be
    Harm requires a victim. Nobody is harmed when a pedophile doesn't act on their urges.
    The reports of my death were surprisingly well-sourced and accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davillage View Post
    Protecting children against vile individuals with mental illnesses is not being an internet tough guy.

    Try me I don't care. You sick people don't get near children.
    while i somewhat agree with you, you need to calm down.
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  15. #635
    Quote Originally Posted by Vyxn View Post
    it is not because it is socially unacceptable it is because it is harmful
    Homosexuality was at one timed considered a mental disorder because at the time is was socially unacceptable but harmful to no one
    pedophilia is harmful and why it is socially unacceptable and always should be
    Please tell me how its harmful. I want to know how someone who is a pedophile is harmful.

    Hint: They aren't.
    Quote Originally Posted by scorpious1109 View Post
    Why the hell would you wait till after you did this to confirm the mortality rate of such action?

  16. #636
    Quote Originally Posted by Zantos View Post
    Whats the difference other than the fear created from probably being misinformed or thinking that because they are a pedophile that means they are automatically a rapist or will harm the children in some way.
    not atomically a child molester but greater possibility of being one
    same reason a recovering alcoholic would have a greater chance of a relapse if he is constantly around alcohol

  17. #637
    Quote Originally Posted by Zantos View Post
    Please tell me how its harmful. I want to know how someone who is a pedophile is harmful.

    Hint: They aren't.
    Well, they very much can be. I just prefer to punish people that have actually committed a crime, not people that might some day.

  18. #638
    Quote Originally Posted by Furitrix View Post
    I'm not sure that is a fair conclusion to make either. It would be like claiming straight men should never be allowed to work with women because it might put temptation in their plate.
    Wrong - Children are easily manipulated, and especially when someone in a position of authority tells them to do something. There is a monumental difference between those two arguments, and that's really quite obvious.

    A child could be molested and not really know what's going on, be too scared to come forward for years, or otherwise think that is acceptable behaviour. Allowing pedophiles to work with children is a simple no go.

  19. #639
    Quote Originally Posted by Dispraise View Post
    The majority of people who commit child molestation do not have a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children. A study from 2006 found it to be ~35%.
    Do you happen to have the study this information is from?
    Quote Originally Posted by scorpious1109 View Post
    Why the hell would you wait till after you did this to confirm the mortality rate of such action?

  20. #640
    Quote Originally Posted by Katchii View Post
    Well said... but that doesn't make me think pedophiles are any less creepy.
    I'd never let my child near a pedophile, even with my stance and understanding of them.

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