Questions about arcane

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With class trinket and PoF, you put prismatic crystal down, 1-3 AM charges, arcane power is up and doom procs on crystal. What do?

Also

When outside of RoP, like moving to the other or something, should you do any damage? Since it only lasts 3 minutes when do you refresh? Just before it runs out or during a transition in the fight?

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With class trinket and PoF, you put prismatic crystal down, 1-3 AM charges, arcane power is up and doom procs on crystal. What do?

While MoD is up ALLWAYS AM if u have.
In the ideal case you should drop all AM-charges before going into PC/Burn. If u are speaking about opener it seems to crystalize to put PC down at timer 0 and start with PoM-ABs to build up and burn down.

When outside of RoP, like moving to the other or something, should you do any damage? Since it only lasts 3 minutes when do you refresh? Just before it runs out or during a transition in the fight?

Refresh after running out.
Regarding movement: Caster 1x1: ALLWAYS Cast! You do less dmg without rune. Less is still more then no dmg.

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While MoD is up ALLWAYS AM if u have.
In the ideal case you should drop all AM-charges before going into PC/Burn. If u are speaking about opener it seems to crystalize to put PC down at timer 0 and start with PoM-ABs to build up and burn down.




Refresh after running out.
Regarding movement: Caster 1x1: ALLWAYS Cast! You do less dmg without rune. Less is still more then no dmg.

Don't mean to be rude or anything but most of that is wrong.

Standard opener for Arcane Mage using Class Trinket + Prophecy of Fear is as follows: AB->AB->Drop PC (wait for the GCD)->Use Arcane Power and spam AB on the crystal. Assuming Prophecy procs on the crystal dump all available Arcane Missile procs. If Prophepcy procs on the boss and you have AM procs use them on the boss (debatable whether or not it's worth but in my experience it is). Otherwise keep spamming AB on the Crystal, once it dies switch to boss until AP is over and then Evocation to full mana.

Assuming Prophecy procs on the boss within the first 2 ABs keep casting until you get 4 stacks of AB and then drop PC->AP. If you get ANY procs of Arcane Missiles simply use them and immediately after you shoot out the last AM drop Crystal at the boss (wait for GCD), Arcane Power and spam AB on the Crystal.

More or less one of these cases are going to happen on every pull


EDIT: Regarding Rune of Power if you need to reposition yourself during the encounter and you'll sit still for a while refresh it on the spot you'll be standing using Ice Floes so as to not lose GCDs on useless things. If you find yourself moving too often you should use Incanter's Flow.

Generally with Rune of Power you wanna have 2 runes next to each other if you have to avoid mechanics or in different places if you'll be able to stand in one of those places at all times. Refresh runes only at 2-3 seconds left and only the one you're standing on. If you later have to move simply IceFloes+ Rune cast on that spot.

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Don't mean to be rude or anything but most of that is wrong.

Standard opener for Arcane Mage using Class Trinket + Prophecy of Fear is as follows: AB->AB->Drop PC (wait for the GCD)->Use Arcane Power and spam AB on the crystal. Assuming Prophecy procs on the crystal dump all available Arcane Missile procs. If Prophepcy procs on the boss and you have AM procs use them on the boss (debatable whether or not it's worth but in my experience it is). Otherwise keep spamming AB on the Crystal, once it dies switch to boss until AP is over and then Evocation to full mana.

Assuming Prophecy procs on the boss within the first 2 ABs keep casting until you get 4 stacks of AB and then drop PC->AP. If you get ANY procs of Arcane Missiles simply use them and immediately after you shoot out the last AM drop Crystal at the boss (wait for GCD), Arcane Power and spam AB on the Crystal.

More or less one of these cases are going to happen on every pull

I think wrong is the wrong word.
If you wait for MoD to be over on the boss and then start PC/Burn it is the wrong way.
2xAB->PC/Burn is the usual recommended way but often times MoD procs at this first 2 ABs. Then it was recommended to still place PC/AP and weave AM on the boss. This is the safest, most stable version.
The main point is not PC/Burn or MoD. Its the ring. You want to use 12 seconds of PC inside the 15 seconds of the ring. And for that you have to place PC atleast at the 3 secmark. So
2xAB->PC/AP->
If MoD procced on Boss weave AM to boss, ABs on PC
If MoD procced on PC enjoy your opener and nuke the shit out of the PC.
As said: This is the most stable version. The downside is the weaving which tends to be more a pain than a gain.
So often times we tend to go the lazy way and place PC at start to ensure MoD on PC and feel safe. Looking at logs this is also the most outcoming way if u have insane luck.
But placing PC after MoD is only a los because the whole ringburn is lost.

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Yeah I was about to say how fucked up it becomes because of the ring. All those "wait for the four stacks and spend AMs" are fine and well, they wouldn't be any major DPS loss anyway all else being equal, but not all are equal. The ring is often used when the first AB hits so PC must be used right after the next AB and then you have to go through the torture of having to switch for AMs on the boss because doom most likely procced there.

I hate that so much.


The lazy way someone was advertising here "just Presence of Mind on the PC first thing" is actually something I might have to sim. Because we're talking about a 2-3 second job to get to 4 stacks and a sure doom on it. Management is almost always 100% reliable and that might be enough.