Russia sends air-defence systems to back Syria campaign

[Hooked]

Daesh and other groups use human shields alot, like here they keep civilians in steel cages, so if someone would bomb them they hit civilians to witch they can use as their shitty propaganda war.

That's actually the "moderate rebels" keeping the Syrian civilians in cages as human shields. It could also be fake as well. The rebels and their wives may be putting their own people in the cages to influence world opinion if they do get bombed for being terrorists.

It just seems like a lot of cages lately. Its like a movie prop, where does one get a giant cage from anyways?.

[Ulmita]

The last time Israel and Syria really got into it in the air, the Syrian's lost 80+ aircraft to Israel's 2.

The fact that you go vs an incompetent and less technological advanced military doesn't automatically make you the master of the universe. Plus from the little that i read the vast majority of the planes destroyed were parked on airstrips, but i haven't read details. Will get back when i read the whole battle.

[Notchris]

1 "supreme power" means that if they go rogue and decide for example to start destabilising a whole area cause it benefits them, they do it and that's it.

Because it went SO MUCH better when there was 2, right?! When one destabilized an area, the other destabilized another area to draw the firsts attention away from the other area.

Those were the days!

"Supreme" powers will do what they want. Having more, just means more doing what they want while trying to jam a stick in the others eye.

[Raldazzar]

1 "supreme" power is pretty much the only way to force a semblance of stability. As far as candidates for that power goes, US beats the others by a mile.

A world without America would be a world where China or Russia are the ones dictating terms.

so for candidates of that.. you want to choose the US.. a country who despite being in war almost since it's inception has failed to win most of them solo. (revolutionary war was france saving the day, civil war was basically a proxy war france vs uk, ww2 was the russians..)

and also a country which HAS used these weapons in the past..how about a country rooted in the history of the entire world. the UK. if there is one candidate for that it's the UK.

or Russia, Hell, I'd rather have Russia with the power then the yanks.. the average yank is a complete moron.

[Crispin]

Because it went SO MUCH better when there was 2, right?! When one destabilized an area, the other destabilized another area to draw the firsts attention away from the other area.

Those were the days!

"Supreme" powers will do what they want. Having more, just means more doing what they want while trying to jam a stick in the others eye.

I guess he havent heard of proxy wars before.

Is the West invading countries because "WMDS!!11" an ideal situation? far from it, but I'll take it over several proxy wars and situations that easily could have resulted in a nuclear war.

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so for candidates of that.. you want to choose the US.. a country who despite being in war almost since it's inception has failed to win most of them solo. (revolutionary war was france saving the day, civil war was basically a proxy war france vs uk, ww2 was the russians..)

and also a country which HAS used these weapons in the past..how about a country rooted in the history of the entire world. the UK. if there is one candidate for that it's the UK.

or Russia, Hell, I'd rather have Russia with the power then the yanks.. the average yank is a complete moron.

Nothing like rewriting history to make a point, are you an average yank?

[Kellhound]

The fact that you go vs an incompetent and less technological advanced military doesn't automatically make you the master of the universe. Plus from the little that i read the vast majority of the planes destroyed were parked on airstrips, but i haven't read details. Will get back when i read the whole battle.

Considering Russia would have to depend on Syria to help it try to defend against the IAF, it is relevant. Even if the Russians achieved 1:1 kills, Syria going 1:40 equals destroyed Russian and Syria air power and a largely intact IAF. IAF F-16s were 44-0 in air combat, and IAF F-15s were 40-0 in air combat, not air to ground combat. And FYI, there is no proof (like history) that the Russian Air Force is competent or equal in technology compared to the IAF. http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Isr...y-finds-380030

[Ulmita]

Considering Russia would have to depend on Syria to help it try to defend against the IAF, it is relevant. Even if the Russians achieved 1:1 kills, Syria going 1:40 equals destroyed Russian and Syria air power and a largely intact IAF. IAF F-16s were 44-0 in air combat, and IAF F-15s were 40-0 in air combat, not air to ground combat. And FYI, there is no proof (like history) that the Russian Air Force is competent or equal in technology compared to the IAF. http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Isr...y-finds-380030

Yeah in such scenario that a handful of Russian planes (bombers) mostly go against IAF i don't doubt the result.

[Kellhound]

Yeah in such scenario that a handful of Russian planes (bombers) mostly go against IAF i don't doubt the result.

Russia cannot deploy enough fighters to Syria to counter Israel, again its that funny thing called logistics!

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Because it went SO MUCH better when there was 2, right?! When one destabilized an area, the other destabilized another area to draw the firsts attention away from the other area.

Those were the days!

"Supreme" powers will do what they want. Having more, just means more doing what they want while trying to jam a stick in the others eye.

Never said it was better before?

[habitsbreaker]

The "moderate" rebels are keeping normal civilians in cages as human shields all over the country.

1 town = all over the country !

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That's actually the "moderate rebels" keeping the Syrian civilians in cages as human shields. It could also be fake as well. The rebels and their wives may be putting their own people in the cages to influence world opinion if they do get bombed for being terrorists.

It just seems like a lot of cages lately. Its like a movie prop, where does one get a giant cage from anyways?.

its not fake ,its a a group in rural damscus, tehse pepole in the cages are some syrian army officers families, they are alawits , and they are in cages coz Russia and the Syrian army been bombing that town for months

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1 town = all over the country !

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its not fake ,its a a group in rural damscus, tehse pepole in the cages are some syrian army officers families, they are alawits , and they are in cages coz Russia and the Syrian army been bombing that town for months

Are you seriously trying to rationalize this?

A major Syrian rebel group is using dozens of captives in metal cages as "human shields" in the largest opposition stronghold on the outskirts of Damascus, a monitor said Sunday.

Jaish al-Islam, regarded as the most powerful rebel group near the capital, has put regime soldiers and Alawite civilians it was holding in metal cages, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights told AFP.

The group then placed these cages in public squares in the Eastern Ghouta region in an attempt to "prevent regime bombardment", Observatory head Rami Abdel Rahman said.

"Jaish al-Islam is using these captives and kidnapped people -- including whole families -- as human shields," he said.

Government forces regularly bombard the Eastern Ghouta area, from where rebel groups fire rockets into the capital.

Stop sending rockets perhaps?
The responsible are a huge group called Jaysh-al-Islam. Part of the islamic Front. Apparently this guys are part of a group of eleven that rejected the Syrian National Council and called for Sharia in Syria. Got to love a foursome civil war.

https://web.stanford.edu/group/mappi...roups/view/533

But hey, if you say "dictator" a couple more times, maybe you manage to grab someone else's attention.