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    Having a bit of trouble reconciling the 'liberals want free money' and the idea of paying less % of taxes as you earn more money. If conservatives didn't want free money, we wouldn't have arguments about taxes. Everyone wants free money...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Having a bit of trouble reconciling the 'liberals want free money' and the idea of paying less % of taxes as you earn more money. If conservatives didn't want free money, we wouldn't have arguments about taxes. Everyone wants free money...
    The difference being liberals want money from someone else handed out via the government and conservatives just want to be giving all the money they made w/o it being taxed. Considering history tho the conservative side have never won.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saucexorzski View Post
    The difference being liberals want money from someone else handed out via the government and conservatives just want to be giving all the money they made w/o it being taxed. Considering history tho the conservative side have never won.
    Because of r/K theory and how the ball got it rolling. There are 2rd even 3rd generations of welfare recievers that were raising by dad collecting unemployment, a single mother that raised a kid by getting federal aid for her missdoings and so on. There are more socialist, liberals because it's in human nature to want free stuff and go the less resistive path. But social pograms are not paid by free money, but rather by hard working employees and employers.

    Sh*t will hit the fan preassure soon anyhow and we will have a civil if not world war in the next 50 years anyhow. Wars are always moves to reset economies, clear debt and free up Earth by killing some of it's population. And we are long due!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saucexorzski View Post
    The difference being liberals want money from someone else handed out via the government and conservatives just want to be giving all the money they made w/o it being taxed. Considering history tho the conservative side have never won.
    Not really, they want to cut taxes that favor them while raising taxes that push the burden on the poor.

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    Fucking horrible. Religion and the rigid conservatives will halt human progress and set us back years upon years, nvm butcher all kinds of human rights, and uuuggghhhh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeones View Post
    Not really, they want to cut taxes that favor them while raising taxes that push the burden on the poor.
    Tax the poor? You do know the poor get welfare and live off state subsidized right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForLoveOfMe View Post
    Tax the poor? You do know the poor get welfare and live off state subsidized right?
    Uh... So we were talking about what they wanted. Part of what the conservatives want is to cut all welfare so we can have shanty towns like third world countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeones View Post
    Uh... So we were talking about what they wanted. Part of what the conservatives want is to cut all welfare so we can have shanty towns like third world countries.
    Have you seen Detroit? Or maybe the other 4 californian small towns that went bankrupt because of welfare costs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForLoveOfMe View Post
    Have you seen Detroit? Or maybe the other 4 californian small towns that went bankrupt because of welfare costs?
    What argument are you trying to make? Detroit is a hell hole because our jobs went overseas because of shit trade deals. Half of Detroit is empty houses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeones View Post
    What argument are you trying to make? Detroit is a hell hole because our jobs went overseas because of shit trade deals. Half of Detroit is empty houses.
    Nope. It was all that welfare they got that made them lazy, so car manufacturers HAD TO GO overseas because they couldn't find folks to work in their plants, because they were all on welfare.

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