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    Lightbulb Dell Screwed me over, I need a new setup.

    Well I just came from another thread and I realize that I need to build a new Comp. Below is the original post with the computer I have now. Anything worth saving I have no problem with doing. I also would like to keep the build as "affordable" as possibly I guess. Needless to say 1500$ is not unreasonable but we are 3 weeks from Christmas lol. Below is the original post.

    Budget = 500-1500 USD
    Resolution = Uh, best possible for the budget.
    Games / Settings Desired = WoW, LoL, HotS
    Any other intensive software or special things you do. Dual Monitor Recording gameplay, or streaming gameplay, video and music editing.
    Country USA
    Parts that can be reused A Gtx 660 i guess I think it is SLI. IDK
    Do you need an OS? I guess so.
    Do you need peripherals (e.g. monitor, mouse, keyboard, speakers, etc)? Maybe Monitors since EvilDeffy said mine sucks. and a keyboard.


    Running over budget right now.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: *Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($242.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    CPU Cooler: *Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($42.89 @ OutletPC)
    Memory: *Kingston 1GB (1 x 1GB) DDR2-667 Memory ($9.99 @ Amazon)
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($84.89 @ OutletPC)
    Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
    Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card ($479.99 @ Micro Center)
    Case: *Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($78.99 @ NCIX US)
    Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Amazon)
    Optical Drive: LG WH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($46.98 @ OutletPC)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($89.88 @ OutletPC)
    Sound Card: Asus Xonar DG 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($19.99 @ Micro Center)
    Sound Card: Asus Xonar DG 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($19.99 @ Micro Center)
    Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($38.89 @ OutletPC)
    Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($38.89 @ OutletPC)
    Monitor: *Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($259.99 @ Micro Center)
    Total: $1674.32
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    *Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-04 21:33 EST-0500
    Last edited by Anavrinx; 2015-12-05 at 02:34 AM.

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    Hell of a post, but what is really needed is this:

    Include the following information when posting a request.


    Budget
    Resolution
    Games / Settings Desired
    Any other intensive software or special things you do (Frequent video encoding, 3D modeling, etc)
    Country
    Parts that can be reused
    Do you need an OS?
    Do you need peripherals (e.g. monitor, mouse, keyboard, speakers, etc)?
    From the sticky above. The parts that can be re-used are probably nothing; MAYBE the GPU (GPUs? Are they SLI?) and hard drive if the platters aren't acting up by now.
    Super casual.

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    Hi Anavrinx,

    Please delete everything underneath your first paragraph and exchange it with the following:

    Include the following information when posting a request.


    Budget
    Resolution
    Games / Settings Desired
    Any other intensive software or special things you do (Frequent video encoding, 3D modeling, etc)
    Country
    Parts that can be reused
    Do you need an OS?
    Do you need peripherals (e.g. monitor, mouse, keyboard, speakers, etc)?

    Ideally include a list of parts, we see the same request almost every day. There are other topics that have parts lists that you can copy and modify.
    The stuff you posted is unnecessary for this part.
    Do mention that there's a GTX 660 you could re-use, this might be kept depending on what you want to do with it.

    But seeing what you have ... dear Lord even those monitors are bleh.

    I think this'll be a painful do-over process for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nellah View Post
    Hell of a post, but what is really needed is this:


    From the sticky above. The parts that can be re-used are probably nothing; MAYBE the GPU (GPUs? Are they SLI?) and hard drive if the platters aren't acting up by now.
    Done, #1 for useful info!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evildeffy View Post
    Hi Anavrinx,

    Please delete everything underneath your first paragraph and exchange it with the following:



    The stuff you posted is unnecessary for this part.
    Do mention that there's a GTX 660 you could re-use, this might be kept depending on what you want to do with it.

    But seeing what you have ... dear Lord even those monitors are bleh.

    I think this'll be a painful do-over process for you.
    Done, yeah well like I said in the other post I was young when I bought it. I did 0 research and got financed so yeah... Screwed my credit as a bonus! LOL ah life was so simple as a teenager.

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    Tossing this out there. I believe its a 660ti, from the other thread.

    ALso... If you plan on junking/parting the old system for spare change, you can use the Win 7 license and get a fresh new Win10 license for the new system, and save yourself $80
    Gaming: Dual Intel Pentium III Coppermine @ 1400mhz + Blue Orb | Asus CUV266-D | GeForce 2 Ti + ZF700-Cu | 1024mb Crucial PC-133 | Whistler Build 2267
    Media: Dual Intel Drake Xeon @ 600mhz | Intel Marlinspike MS440GX | Matrox G440 | 1024mb Crucial PC-133 @ 166mhz | Windows 2000 Pro

    IT'S ALWAYS BEEN WANKERSHIM | Did you mean: Fhqwhgads
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    i dont know if they have done so yet, but nvidia is planning on lowering costs of some of its card .... might want to wait on that

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazus View Post
    Tossing this out there. I believe its a 660ti, from the other thread.

    ALso... If you plan on junking/parting the old system for spare change, you can use the Win 7 license and get a fresh new Win10 license for the new system, and save yourself $80
    damn is it really that crappy lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anavrinx View Post
    damn is it really that crappy lol.
    Certainly not. It might lag in games but its still a perfectly good computer. I was just saying, if you ARE, that's an option. If not, don't worry about it.
    Gaming: Dual Intel Pentium III Coppermine @ 1400mhz + Blue Orb | Asus CUV266-D | GeForce 2 Ti + ZF700-Cu | 1024mb Crucial PC-133 | Whistler Build 2267
    Media: Dual Intel Drake Xeon @ 600mhz | Intel Marlinspike MS440GX | Matrox G440 | 1024mb Crucial PC-133 @ 166mhz | Windows 2000 Pro

    IT'S ALWAYS BEEN WANKERSHIM | Did you mean: Fhqwhgads
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anavrinx View Post
    Running over budget right now.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: *Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($242.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    CPU Cooler: *Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($42.89 @ OutletPC)
    Memory: *Kingston 1GB (1 x 1GB) DDR2-667 Memory ($9.99 @ Amazon)
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($84.89 @ OutletPC)
    Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
    Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card ($479.99 @ Micro Center)
    Case: *Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($78.99 @ NCIX US)
    Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Amazon)
    Optical Drive: LG WH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($46.98 @ OutletPC)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($89.88 @ OutletPC)
    Sound Card: Asus Xonar DG 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($19.99 @ Micro Center)
    Sound Card: Asus Xonar DG 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($19.99 @ Micro Center)
    Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($38.89 @ OutletPC)
    Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($38.89 @ OutletPC)
    Monitor: *Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($259.99 @ Micro Center)
    Total: $1674.32
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    *Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-04 21:33 EST-0500
    That's a good start, but you have three memory kits, two sound cards (which are probably pointless unless you've got a pro audio system), two WiFi cards, and no motherboard. Let me see what I can throw together for you in a few minutes.


    EDIT:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    CPU Cooler: *Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: ASRock Z97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Micro Center)
    Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
    Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 4GB Twin Frozr Video Card ($429.99 @ Micro Center)
    Case: *Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($78.99 @ NCIX US)
    Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: LG WH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($46.98 @ OutletPC)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($89.88 @ OutletPC)
    Sound Card: Asus Xonar DG 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($19.99 @ Micro Center)
    Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($38.89 @ OutletPC)
    Monitor: *Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($259.99 @ Micro Center)
    Total: $1489.65
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    *Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-05 01:45 EST-0500


    EDIT 2: You can pretty much forget about the sound card, a $20 sound card won't really be any better than onboard motherboard audio. Put that money toward a keyboard that's worth a damn.
    Last edited by Nellah; 2015-12-05 at 06:48 AM.
    Super casual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anavrinx View Post
    Well I just came from another thread and I realize that I need to build a new Comp. Below is the original post with the computer I have now. Anything worth saving I have no problem with doing. I also would like to keep the build as "affordable" as possibly I guess. Needless to say 1500$ is not unreasonable but we are 3 weeks from Christmas lol. Below is the original post.

    Budget = 500-1500 USD
    Resolution = Uh, best possible for the budget.
    Games / Settings Desired = WoW, LoL, HotS
    Any other intensive software or special things you do. Dual Monitor Recording gameplay, or streaming gameplay, video and music editing.
    Country USA
    Parts that can be reused A Gtx 660 i guess I think it is SLI. IDK
    Do you need an OS? I guess so.
    Do you need peripherals (e.g. monitor, mouse, keyboard, speakers, etc)? Maybe Monitors since EvilDeffy said mine sucks. and a keyboard.


    Running over budget right now.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: *Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($242.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    CPU Cooler: *Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($42.89 @ OutletPC)
    Memory: *Kingston 1GB (1 x 1GB) DDR2-667 Memory ($9.99 @ Amazon)
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($84.89 @ OutletPC)
    Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
    Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card ($479.99 @ Micro Center)
    Case: *Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($78.99 @ NCIX US)
    Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Amazon)
    Optical Drive: LG WH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($46.98 @ OutletPC)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($89.88 @ OutletPC)
    Sound Card: Asus Xonar DG 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($19.99 @ Micro Center)
    Sound Card: Asus Xonar DG 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($19.99 @ Micro Center)
    Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($38.89 @ OutletPC)
    Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($38.89 @ OutletPC)
    Monitor: *Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($259.99 @ Micro Center)
    Total: $1674.32
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    *Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-04 21:33 EST-0500

    Huh.. this seems like a really scattershot-in-the-dark build here. Got some questions to ask before i suggest something:

    Why is there 1GB of DDR2 Memory in there?

    Why is there 8GB of one type of DDR3-1600 and 16GB of another?

    Why are there 2x sound cards? (Why is there a sound card at all?)

    Why is there no motherboard?

    Why are there 2x wireless cards?

    Specifically.. what is "dual monitor recording/streaming" ? Not familiar with it in those terms.

    Do you intend to do a LOT of video editing?

    Do you live near a Micro Center? (at this budget, within a 45-60 minute drive, i'd consider it worthwhile)

    Ill go ahead and post what i'd consider a good "base" build for modern gaming and streaming, to at least give you a jumping off point. Once you can answer my questions above, hopefully I or someone else can refine a build suggestion for you.

    As a base, though:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($372.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS9900MAX-B CPU Cooler ($45.99 @ Directron)
    Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme4 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($142.98 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($82.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($77.99 @ B&H)
    Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB SSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($319.98 @ NCIX US)
    Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($78.99 @ NCIX US)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $1191.90
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-05 01:45 EST-0500

    edit: the reason i went X99/Socket 2011v3 with this instead of a Quad-core setup like Nellah posted is because you said you do video editing. Video editing is one of the few things where more cores always = better. If you dont do craploads of video editing, and waiting an extra 20-30 minutes for a rendering job to be done is no big deal, Nellah's build isn't bad (though i have no idea why they didn't go with Skylake/Socket 1151, considering the price difference is about ~30) at all. It will stream just fine, due to Quicksync.

    This gets you a SIX core CPU, DDR4 RAM (with lots of room to expand), a decent amount of overclocking room on the CPU (though if you really want to push this much past 3.7/3.8Ghz, youll need better than that Zalman i put in there - its a decent cooler, but for these Socket 2011v3 chips youll want a liquid solution with a 240mm radiator to push towards 4Ghz). All the ports you could ever need, PCIe slots to spare. Got you into an M.2 SSD as well (i would assume you've got some HDDs with some real space youll be porting over...).

    Will definitely game at high settings and stream with little to no performance hit. Left Monitors off, but there is plenty of room in the budget - same with OS.

    The reason i didn't plot a GTX 980 in here is because i really, really feel its a loser of a card at price/performance. It doesn't perform hugely better than a GTX 970 (less than 20% at best, usually more like 11-14% faster) but is almost 200$ more.

    My -real- suggestion would be to suck it up and continue using your GTX 660Ti (if that's what you have) or grab a GTX 960 for less than 200$ and sit on it until Pascal comes out next year (or Arctic Islands if you're a Team Red guy) and then drop the most expensive GPU you can afford at that time into it and use the 660Ti or 960 as a backup.

    The 660Ti will still produce extremely playable framerates in Blizzard games at 1080p, and if you sit on it and save that from the budget, you could probably afford to pop on the most expensive of the non-Titan Pascal parts immediately.
    Last edited by Kagthul; 2015-12-05 at 06:55 AM.

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    @Nellah
    I accidentally fat fingered and selected extra parts..

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    @Kagthul
    I really just made up that build, I didnt pick anything in particular I was just kind of clicking. I also clicked somethings like the network and sound cards twice. For some reason all the Mother boards I picked were not compatible, probably because idk what i'm doing.

    What I meant is I run 2 monitor setup. My left monitor will be running WoW and the right Monitor will either be recording, Streaming Movies or streaming gaming videos. Multitasking basically. I do a decent amount of game video editing I guess, really hard for me to judge how much or how often.

    I am in between 2 micro centers, both are 2 hours one way lol.

    What you wrote I like because I have no problem using my existing GPU to save some cash for a bit if its possible. I really feel like what I am running now is terrible so I am sure the base that you mention would be worlds of difference. You guys are the professionals so I am open to your suggestions. My gaming life is in your hands. Lol
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    This and I would re-use whatever hard drives you've got. Not really the best CPU cooler in the world because I assume you won't do OC.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($372.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    CPU Cooler: be quiet! PURE ROCK 51.4 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
    Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme4 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($142.98 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($82.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($77.99 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
    Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card ($289.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: Fractal Design Define S ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.00 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($89.88 @ OutletPC)
    Total: $1275.78
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-05 09:51 EST-0500

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    Actually, I just saw that the FX9590 is being sold for $199.99.

    Anyone know if it wouldn't perform better at video editing at stock clocks compared to the 5820k? The thing comes at 4.7~5Ghz out of the box. Even then for 170$ less I think the performance/money is probably still better.

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    The man needs 2 monitors as well.

    He's got a 1366x768 and 1280x720 monitor.. ditch the graphics as he can re-use the GTX 660 he's got which is plenty powerful for the games he's playing.

    A couple of monitors would do him some good, I would give him suggestions except the US really doesn't have iiyama monitors for sale.
    If the GFX turns out to be too weak over time he can upgrade later, it's a waste keeping a person on the peripherals he's got.

    @ Artorious:

    The 5820K is stronger period.

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    Yeah saving on the GPU I would not mind if it is viable. Using that money elsewhere or saving is always a plus!

    And as far as everything else goes, my Naga is good, Nostramo* good, keyboard = total shit.
    Last edited by Anavrinx; 2015-12-05 at 03:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evildeffy View Post
    The man needs 2 monitors as well.

    He's got a 1366x768 and 1280x720 monitor.. ditch the graphics as he can re-use the GTX 660 he's got which is plenty powerful for the games he's playing.

    A couple of monitors would do him some good, I would give him suggestions except the US really doesn't have iiyama monitors for sale.
    If the GFX turns out to be too weak over time he can upgrade later, it's a waste keeping a person on the peripherals he's got.

    @ Artorious:

    The 5820K is stronger period.
    Quote Originally Posted by Anavrinx View Post
    Yeah saving on the GPU I would not mind if it is viable. Using that money elsewhere or saving is always a plus!

    And as far as everything else goes, my Naga is good, Nostramo* good, keyboard = total shit.
    Okay then, alternative 1 that should be the best option:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($372.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    CPU Cooler: be quiet! PURE ROCK 51.4 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
    Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme4 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($142.98 @ Newegg)
    Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($77.99 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
    Case: Fractal Design Define S ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.00 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($89.88 @ OutletPC)
    Monitor: Dell U2414H 60Hz 23.8" Monitor ($229.95 @ B&H)
    Monitor: Dell U2414H 60Hz 23.8" Monitor ($229.95 @ B&H)
    Total: $1437.69
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-05 10:41 EST-0500

    We know he won't really be doing OC so, slightly worse alternative 2:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel Core i7-4790 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($277.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($56.98 @ Newegg)
    Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($119.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($77.99 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
    Case: Fractal Design Define S ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.00 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($89.88 @ OutletPC)
    Monitor: Dell U2414H 60Hz 23.8" Monitor ($229.95 @ B&H)
    Monitor: Dell U2414H 60Hz 23.8" Monitor ($229.95 @ B&H)
    Total: $1271.70
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-05 10:46 EST-0500

    And the Skylake alternative:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($62.98 @ Newegg)
    Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($77.99 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
    Case: Fractal Design Define S ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.00 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($89.88 @ OutletPC)
    Monitor: Dell U2414H 60Hz 23.8" Monitor ($229.95 @ B&H)
    Monitor: Dell U2414H 60Hz 23.8" Monitor ($229.95 @ B&H)
    Total: $1229.69
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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    Extra memory is for the video editing.

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    what is skylake? sorry I am such a noob at this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anavrinx View Post
    what is skylake? sorry I am such a noob at this.
    New Intel processors that are slightly more expensive and give you slightly more performance/clock. The only reason they're appealing is that you will be able to re-use your RAM at the next system since they use DDR4. The performance increase in itself is almost negligible.

    It's the same deal with Haswell-E (5820K that we recommended), it also uses DDR4 memory, so this is only an advantage over Haswell (like the 4790).

    In any case, many many years from now when you're building your next PC, you'll probably want to buy new RAM so this is irrelevant.

    First build gives you 6 cores with HT (12 threads) at a 3.3ghz processor that can OC (but I assume you won't want to deal with it).

    Second build gives you 4 cores with HT (8 threads) at a 3.6Ghz processor.

    And the third build gives you 4 cores without HT (4 threads), which is worse for your video editing but cheaper. The Skylake i7s aren't worth their price. That's why I used a i5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artorius View Post
    New Intel processors that are slightly more expensive and give you slightly more performance/clock. The only reason they're appealing is that you will be able to re-use your RAM at the next system since they use DDR4. The performance increase in itself is almost negligible.

    It's the same deal with Haswell-E (5820K that we recommended), it also uses DDR4 memory, so this is only an advantage over Haswell (like the 4790).

    In any case, many many years from now when you're building your next PC, you'll probably want to buy new RAM so this is irrelevant.

    First build gives you 6 cores with HT (12 threads) at a 3.3ghz processor that can OC (but I assume you won't want to deal with it).

    Second build gives you 4 cores with HT (8 threads) at a 3.6Ghz processor.

    And the third build gives you 4 cores without HT (4 threads), which is worse for your video editing but cheaper. The Skylake i7s aren't worth their price. That's why I used a i5.
    Ok so the first one is obviously the best choice like you said. And in a previous post someone said that the more cores is always going to be a better choice for the video editing.

    I never really plan on the next build, but obviously getting something that wont screw me later is a better choice. I again trust you guys to point me in the right direction since all of this is very new to me. But exciting to think I might be able to stream record gaming in high settings!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anavrinx View Post
    Ok so the first one is obviously the best choice like you said. And in a previous post someone said that the more cores is always going to be a better choice for the video editing.

    I never really plan on the next build, but obviously getting something that wont screw me later is a better choice. I again trust you guys to point me in the right direction since all of this is very new to me. But exciting to think I might be able to stream record gaming in high settings!
    Thing is, the 5820K (the processor with 6 cores) has a unlocked multiplier and can overclock easily. What most people do when they buy them is OC the thing to 4.0+ Ghz, since it comes at 3.3 out of the box. As you've said, you're new to all this. I don't expect you to OC your CPU, so some of it's price is wasted.

    X99 is also technically a enthusiast platform, motherboards are generally full-flaged with features and they're more expensive. The extra cost just adds to itself. Even then, 2 more real cores is a lot, so it's still the best option.
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    Well I suppose if I went with the first choice I could learn about the overclocking the GPU from you guys.

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