Man busted with weapons twice in 10 days released on $1K bail

[Stormspellz]

He had ILLEGAL guns. Therefore if we had even STRICTER gun laws he would still been in possession of them. Criminals are going to be criminals. The three cities with the tighest gun control laws in the US have the highest criminal activity. And they happen to be Democrat controlled. Go figure. New York, LA and Chicago(home of Obama). Texas cities do not have near the issue that these cities do.
NYC is also a sanctuary city. Enough said.

or maybe stricter gun laws would make it harder for him to get a hold of such things...Look up Australia black market gun trade prices.

[IIamaKing]

Next time you consider if the US has a gun problem, maybe you might remember this article and remember these kind of shenanigans are fairly common place in our justice system.

The only reason this particular moron might add to our gun violence statistics is because our justice system failed completely.

I can't think of any larger red flags than what are present in this example.

Happens all the time up in Milwaukee WI. Many times guys who should go to jail on the spot are given parole, or let out on a small bond then never show up to court. LIKE OMG SHOCKER the gang banging piece of shit doesnt care about your warrant. Guy should have been in the slammer the first time.

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Why should this convince people otherwise, if they already love their guns more than children being alive in schools?

Has nothing to do with guns, has to do with enforcement.

[Espe]

Why should this convince people otherwise, if they already love their guns more than children being alive in schools?

She's got you there, champ.

[TITAN308]

Yea I know your game, not biting. Can't argue with people who base debate off emotion. Thanks for sharing though.

[Espe]

Yea I know your game, not biting. Can't argue with people who base debate off emotion. Thanks for sharing though.

You can't argue period, it's just the facts of the situation.

Keep inflating that post count anyway, though.

[TITAN308]

You can't argue period, it's just the facts of the situation.

Keep inflating that post count anyway, though.

Ok then. Thanks for sharing.

[Rhine101]

We need more gun laws!!!!

Let's not enforce them though. They just look pretty on paper.

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or maybe stricter gun laws would make it harder for him to get a hold of such things...Look up Australia black market gun trade prices.

How if they aren't enforced? You know laws that are not enforced don't do anything right?

[drwelfare]

Habitual violator of multiple laws.
Hold him until a speedy trial, with a long history and multiple previous convictions, better the execute him before he causes more harm

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Next time you consider if the US has a gun problem, maybe you might remember this article and remember these kind of shenanigans are fairly common place in our justice system.

The only reason this particular moron might add to our gun violence statistics is because our justice system failed completely.

I can't think of any larger red flags than what are present in this example.

This is in NY folks which has one of the strictest gun laws....

[TITAN308]

This is in NY folks which has one of the strictest gun laws....

You are wrong. According to PosPosPos they (the judges) are directed by conservatives and the NRA to give repeat black gang bangers as lenient as possible bail.

I mean come on, that makes total sense.

[lockedout]

So you're saying democrats want violent armed criminals roaming the streets?

[Mistame]

She's got you there, champ.

She actually doesn't. False equivalence is false. But by all means, let the hoplophobes derail another thread.

[Stacyrect]

Next time you consider if the US has a gun problem, maybe you might remember this article and remember these kind of shenanigans are fairly common place in our justice system.

The only reason this particular moron might add to our gun violence statistics is because our justice system failed completely.

I can't think of any larger red flags than what are present in this example.

While it was a bad decision for them to set the bail that low, it can be upped or revoked at anytime.

[Will]

This just proves how ignorant you are of gun laws and their applications. California is a great example of having very strict gun laws and you can't even legally buy a gun in another state to bring back to California without going through an FFL (so it doesn't matter if they are freely available elsewhere) but they still have horrible gun violence in most of the inner cities.

Yeah, but how many guns are and were already in mass circulation? Tighter laws is all well and good, but guns are so, so abundant in the US that it's extremely difficult to crimp down on them all. It's hard to control that which has already gotten out of hand in the first place.

Some folk in the thread mentioned that the cities with the tightest gun laws have some of the highest crime. Well, duh, if people can just drive out into the surrounding countryside and get a gun easily, then it kind of defeats the entire idea of the city specifically clamping down. You don't clamp down on individual cities. You clamp down on everything. Safe bubbles don't work unless you checkpoint everyone coming in.

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Americans......

[TITAN308]

Americans......

I'd tread lightly there Mr. France

[Will]

He had ILLEGAL guns. Therefore if we had even STRICTER gun laws he would still been in possession of them. Criminals are going to be criminals

Massively disagree. The majority of crime is opportunist or otherwise planned on a very petty level. Liquor store robbery. Mugging. Theft. If you come to a country where guns are much harder to acquire, you'll find gun crime is much lower. Whilst you are correct and a dedicated criminal can still get their hands on a firearm, such a level of dedication represents the lower proportion of crimes. In the states, it's much, much easier for a petty criminal - one of the categories I mentioned early in my quote - to acquire a weapon.

Take a UK example. You're down and out, and you fancy robbing someone, or maybe you're a bit of a lunatic and want to attack someone. You're very unlikely to have a gun, and the trouble and process to acquire one is simply too difficult. So you use a knife or a baseball bat, or some less dangerous weapon instead. Guns are few and far between, so even if you're willing to take the risk, there's a good chance you won't find one very easily.

Now the US example. Guns are BLOODY EVERYWHERE. Even if you just want to mug someone, it's not going to be hard to find a gun, is it? Why use a knife when you can easily get a gun? Even petty criminals can do a quick risk-reward analysis, and if a gun's easy enough to obtain, they'll be more likely to opt for one.

So, my point is simple: The majority of crimes are on a petty level. Allowing petty criminals easy access to a firearm causes far more harm in general, than the professional criminals do when they go to the great lengths to acquire them.