Legion Build Help

[Krippzz]

Building a new rig for Legion to replace my ancient one. Budget is $800 (monitor included). I don't plan on streaming or uploading content to YouTube and WoW and LoL are the only two games that I play. Thanks in advance community.

[Deleted]

See if you can stretch the budget a tad for the following otherwise will have to look where to cut down:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($216.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Pro4S ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($82.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($40.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($179.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($55.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($150.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $826.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-25 02:46 EST-0500

[Bigvizz]

More budget friendly as long as your just sticking to WoW and LoL.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4400 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Avexir Core Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Z400s 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($70.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380 2GB PCS+ Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Acer G257HL BMIDX 60Hz 25.0" Monitor ($130.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $760.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-25 10:49 EST-0500

[Lathais]

Kost's build does cost a bit more but will last you quite a bit longer and will have the power to play other games if you choose to in the future. If you go with Big's build, yes it is cheaper, but if you decide to play any other games in the future, being a dual core some will not even be able to be played at all without third-party mods that enable dual core support. Some games, like Witcher 3, that support quad-core usage well will have some stuttering or other issues on dual cores.

Personally, it's only about $60 more, I'd go for Kost's build but either drop the GPU to a 950 and OC it or go with the GPU from Bigs build.

Also of note, the case in Big's build is a Micro-ATX so it's small. Smaller cases can be a little more difficult to build in if you are not experienced. I personally have no experience with that case but own 2 of the ones in Kost's build. It is an excellent case with plenty of room for cable management and airflow. It's really an awesome case for the price, hard to find anything better without spending a lot more.

[Krippz]

Thanks for the feedback gents. I'm going with Bigs build with some tweaks here and there. Going to forgo the HDD in favor of a SSD/ bigger case and add additional storage when the budget allows.

[Deleted]

If you raid a lot the pentium will struggle (as in those fps drops during raiding) cause of low clocks. You would appreciate the higher 600Mhz of the 6600, even an i3 6100 would be better.

[Bigvizz]

Op,
This is about what your looking at with the g4400 on ultra 1080p, I'm afraid I5 6600 being 150$ more won't provide that much of a boost in frames in raiding situation even if you can overclock it. This is for wow only though if your planing on other games Kostattoo build is better.

Another note even on my i7 4790k oc'ed to 4.7ghz I never raided at ultra, I usually went with high with shadows turned down. FPS > pretty graphics when raiding is concerned.

[Deleted]

Bigvizz that video tho doesn't show raiding and my comment was for that. What a higher clocked cpu will provide is less fps drops. So in x raid fight when the pentium will drop to say 35 frames the i5 will drop to 45. Yourself with the i7 you should almost never drop below 60 at 4.7 ultra or not. I barely ever do at 4.4.

[Bigvizz]

Bigvizz that video tho doesn't show raiding and my comment was for that. What a higher clocked cpu will provide is less fps drops. So in x raid fight when the pentium will drop to say 35 frames the i5 will drop to 45. Yourself with the i7 you should almost never drop below 60 at 4.7 ultra or not. I barely ever do at 4.4.

For my processor at max settings in 20 man mythic I would float 50 - 55 frames during graphic heavy encounters, thus why I dropped the settings to high with no Shadows. I prefer 60 frames all the time during raid encounters, which isn't possible in wow on max settings. As for the g4400 vs i5 6600 10 frames really worth 150 dollars, I think not. when you could just nudge down the graphic settings, mind you this is for wow only and not any AAA title.

[Krippz]

Op,
This is about what your looking at with the g4400 on ultra 1080p, I'm afraid I5 6600 being 150$ more won't provide that much of a boost in frames in raiding situation even if you can overclock it. This is for wow only though if your planing on other games Kostattoo build is better.

Another note even on my i7 4790k oc'ed to 4.7ghz I never raided at ultra, I usually went with high with shadows turned down. FPS > pretty graphics when raiding is concerned.

FPS in town seems low and I plan on making a high pop realm home so the dual core is going to be a problem?

[Bigvizz]

FPS in town seems low and I plan on making a high pop realm home so the dual core is going to be a problem?

No matter what cpu you use the most you can hope for in a high pop server is maybe 10 more frames a second in a scenario like that. Ashran with 30 to 40 toons on screen is just going to bring fps to a crawl regardless of the cpu. Also this guy is using ultra settings, in most cases you'd turn down shadow effects to get extra frames in scenarios like in the video above. To be honest paying 150 dollars more for 10 fps bump makes little sense.

[Tomservo]

If you get the quad core processor, you'll eliminate potential buyer's remorse. That's easily worth the extra buckaroos.

[Bigvizz]

If you get the quad core processor, you'll eliminate potential buyer's remorse. That's easily worth the extra buckaroos.

Not if all you play is WoW and LoL, otherwise your right, quad core is the way to go for AAA titles.

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OP: Here's a quad core build that will barely fits your budget, but had to toss the SSD and 25in monitor. Anything more than this will have you over budget. I really don't advise this unless you're going to play more heavy titles.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($71.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Mushkin ECO2 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380 2GB PCS+ Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cougar Solution 2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Acer KN242HYL 60Hz 23.8" Monitor ($110.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $796.58
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-27 01:33 EST-0500

[Denpepe]

In the case you are going with a Pentium would it not be better to buy the older unlocked anniversary one G3258 which you can overclock the shit out?

[Deleted]

In the case you are going with a Pentium would it not be better to buy the older unlocked anniversary one G3258 which you can overclock the shit out?

The plus for the skylake pentium is that you have an open upgrade path to a new skylake/cannonlake (does cannonlake come after, I forgot) cpu.

[Lathais]

FPS in town seems low and I plan on making a high pop realm home so the dual core is going to be a problem?

FPS in town is low no matter what you have. For WoW alone, there is almost no difference between a Pentium and an i7 of the same generation. IPC is what matters and the IPC is pretty much the same. The difference is you only have 2 cores and no hyperthreading. WoW does not need more than 2 cores as the primary thread will run on one core and everything else can easily be handled by the second. WoW also does not utilize hyperthreading. So additional cores and hyperthreading mean all of jack shit to WoW, and that's all anything above the Pentium series offers.

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In the case you are going with a Pentium would it not be better to buy the older unlocked anniversary one G3258 which you can overclock the shit out?

With Skylake we can once again BCLK OC, which can be done even with a locked chip. As Zeara said, it also leaves an upgrade path. If a year or 2 down the road he decides to buy an i5/i7 it's as easy as slap it in instead of having to buy a new motherboard and take you whole build apart and put it back together.

[Krippz]

Decided to go with the following:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4400 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($64.94 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($55.38 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($36.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Z400s 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Superclocked Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($68.98 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN725N 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($9.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VX238H-W 23.0" Monitor ($124.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $606.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-30 20:22 EST-0500

Looks like plenty for WoW and LoL, comes in under budget and room for growth. Thanks for the feedback guys/gals!