That was your first post, not the one I was referring to. Not sure what you're playing at aside from yet again, trying to make this personal for some reason, since it's fine for you it seems to change from one post to the next, but for all my responses they should be edited into my first post apparently for you.
And literally the next post in response to you, right in the response to Tech. The rest had nothing to do with that conversation, why would I suddenly throw in a random thought like that. And yet again, it was an example of one of the biggest computer gaming companies changing from CD installers to codes. That would be like Xbox changing their first party games to download codes only and saying "well that's because they're trying to push their shop channel". It doesn't change the fact that they changed, and it doesn't change the original point that Macs in that case don't need a disc drive.
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I wondered why my new mac didn't have a cup holder, this explains a lot
Then what were you referring to when you said I switched something?
Again, what has changed? I have been pointing out both points (Valve game, multiplayer focus) the whole time. And you're laughably trying to make it sound like the single player of L4D matters.Not sure what you're playing at aside from yet again, trying to make this personal for some reason, since it's fine for you it seems to change from one post to the next, but for all my responses they should be edited into my first post apparently for you.
How is this making anything personal? It's a bad example, you continue to grasp at straws to prove otherwise, and now you're comparing Valve and Steam to Microsoft and Xbox Live? Last time I check I still played my Xbox games off of the disc.
And Tech was pointing the same thing out I was. Valve was pushing Steam. L4D was a bad example.
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The only reason I got a macbook was to be hip at the starbucks of my campus.
Can't you burn a CD to a usb and just run and install from a USB drive anyway. *shrug*
Hard drives are *becoming* outdated technology, but there are still plenty of legit reasons to have them. I'm a designer, illustrator and digital artist. I need drive for storage. Long term, optical storage is preferred, on burnables, but for temp storage or active files, HDs are essential. Two of my friends are professional photographers. They use massive amounts of drive space, SSDs are too expensive for the storage space they need. Another friend is a professional video guy - not only does he need massive amounts of space for storage, he needs massive amounts of drive space for scratch disks. Adopting 4k blew his system apart, in terms of what he needs on a daily basis, and the only cost effective solution is hard drives. Sure, if he won the Powerball, he could set up multi-terabyte SSD raids, but he's not a Powerball winner.
And, cloud service is too young to trust for long term storage of client files. You may be okay when your broadband is out for a few hours, without access to family photos and games, but I need access to files to make a living, and local hard drives right now is the only way.
A couple years from now, SSD prices will drop to HD prices, and then I may switch to them, but right now, all of my mid-term stuff is on HDs, that get replaced every two years. Long term, they go on Blu-ray. I don't trust the cloud, yet. When I upgrade my current MacbookPro to a new version that has all flat based drives, I'll do what I do now - back up to a hard drive, and have an external drive for files I'm working on.
Also, with data caps still existing with US based broadband accounts, I really don't think we'll be backing up and storing everything in the cloud. My desktop at any given time has 20 gigs of work related materials on it, I don't want to waste my data cap on that backing it up every day.
I was referring to how one post you said "Are you really implying people care about the single player"(Or something like that) and then after I said "are you really implying you know every single person who plays L4D?". I mean, the single player and multiplayer are the same anyway last I checked, not sure why it wouldn't matter then.
And yet again, it wasn't about it being L4D either way, I used that because it was one game I know for a fact didn't even have a disc in the box. And it was also about, which I'm not sure why you're ignoring this, that Valve, even with Steam, used to sell physical CDs (Team Fortress 2 had an installation disc, so I think it's safe to say anything before that did too, or around it), yet L4D2 did not (So I think it's safe to say anything around then or after didn't either). It doesn't matter whether or not they were "Pushing Steam" (Because by L4D2, I doubt they even needed to push it any hard, it pretty much was set to win anyway).
Then from there, I pointed out Blizzard made the same change. Diablo 2 had multiple installation discs, and you technically needed to have the disc in while playing too (Which could be changed I'm pretty sure), but going forward, the discs were...pretty much useless. All you needed was the code that came with the disc.
And just look at the comparison between your posts and Techs. Tech was simple and to the point, yours you apparently feel the need to add how "laughable" someone else's example is while still ignoring the general point the example was making.
Also, yes, you still play Xbox games off the disc. Now how many computer games do you play off the disc? That was my point.
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