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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by stomination View Post
    Yea it use to be the norm to bomb the hell out of civilian towns when there are factories or a nearby army base. Or hell if it was just the capital.
    Well, it's not like wedding bombings happened in previous century...

    Even "surgical" airstrikes are only as good as their intel, and intel is often quite unreliable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skulltaker View Post
    Who is naive now? In what way is Erdogan in any way better then Assad? Deliberate slaughtering of civilians, accused of using chemical weapons against them, supporting terrorism? Prosecuting people who disagree with him (or even insult him)?

    Not saying it wasn't Russia. People need to get their head out of this 'either for west or east' idea. There are many reasonable possibilities as to whom bombed the hospitals.



    Again, denouncing Russia serves a purpose for Turkey. They got bad press and this is just what they need to get out of the headlines. MAkes more sense then Russia deliberatly bombing hospitals.
    Than Assad? Easy, how about several hundred thousand of civilian deaths to his name, Erdogan is a crazy fuck, but he's still nowhere near Assad.... Yet.

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    Dunno if it's been mentioned yet, but news agencies have published photos of the missiles repsonsible as some survived mostly intact:



    They are old Soviet era Tochka missiles, important thing being they are short range surface launched missiles, not ship/air launch-able, which narrows the culprits down to Syrian army, Syrian rebels and ISIS. So the guys Turkey jumped to point the finger at appear to be the only ones not in contention lol.

    Another chilling thing to note is that these are precision guided weapons, if they hit hospitals it's because they are aimed at hospitals...
    Last edited by caervek; 2016-02-17 at 11:59 PM.

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    Still can't believe Turkish tanks were able to fly and fire that missile to the hospital. Thats some pretty sick Macross stuff there.

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    Builds hospitals in a war zone involving multiple sides ( assad/us backed rebels/isis/russia/turkey/kurds).

    Shocked when some barbarian shtstick hits one of them.


    #allofmywhut

  6. #86
    I wish that WoW raid bosses can learn something from this.

    Why go after a tank?
    At least attack a dps.

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    Well, took till like page 4 for Team Putin to arrive and deny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caervek View Post
    Dunno if it's been mentioned yet, but news agencies have published photos of the missiles repsonsible as some survived mostly intact:



    They are old Soviet era Tochka missiles, important thing being they are short range surface launched missiles, not ship/air launch-able, which narrows the culprits down to Syrian army, Syrian rebels and ISIS. So the guys Turkey jumped to point the finger at appear to be the only ones not in contention lol.

    Another chilling thing to note is that these are precision guided weapons, if they hit hospitals it's because they are aimed at hospitals...
    Russia still uses them. They have a CEP of 150 meters, not really precision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellhound View Post
    Russia still uses them.
    Indeed but as they have no troops on the front line these can't have been theirs, hence my point that it must have been either the Syrian army, the rebels or ISIS.



    Quote Originally Posted by Kellhound View Post
    They have a CEP of 150 meters, not really precision.
    /shrug, it's the same as the US equivalent, which were considered to be highly accurate/precise back in the day (though obviously standards may have changed). My point stands though, if these hit a hospital it's because there was a hospital in the area their blast was targeted, it won't have been an accidental hit, the hospitals were either accepted collateral damage or the main targets.

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