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    Restoration druid help please?

    hi ,

    I have just recently switched back to the resto druid due to raid comp.Cause you don't need two disc priests in a 20 man raid team i have did alot of research but my heals still seem to be low so if you could look over my character and give me some pointers i would love it thanks in advance.
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...%A1tela/simple
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    Looks like you did your research right. Are you sure it's not your absorb healers that make you look bad?

    Try and get the leech trinket if it drops for you guys (it will make you look even worse on the meters ). You could fill those <710 slots with pvp gear if you like pvp and are eager to upgrade asap. There's haste-heavy boots for example, and a spi/haste ring to hold you over until you can upgrade legendary.
    I'd go displacer, and tree over sotf, and if you don't use hotw to counter something big you could try switching that for nv. Also check if you can make use of glyphed stampede in your raid comp.

    Do you have logs you can link?

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    Are you really surprised that ilvl 732 Holy Paladin outheals your ilvl 706 Resto Druid while you are using 5 healers on fights that barely require 3?

    Other than that, your Harmony uptime is pretty bad (should be 100%), your Lifebloom uptime is like 19%, should be 100%, especially on fights like Socrethar with strong debuffs and you need to cast more Mushrooms. This is like a holy trinity for Resto Druids. Once you get these down, there isn't much to improve on.
    Torty - Highmountain Druid - Turalyon EU

    Icy-Veins Guide for Restoration Druids

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torty View Post
    Are you really surprised that ilvl 732 Holy Paladin outheals your ilvl 706 Resto Druid while you are using 5 healers on fights that barely require 3?

    Other than that, your Harmony uptime is pretty bad (should be 100%), your Lifebloom uptime is like 19%, should be 100%, especially on fights like Socrethar with strong debuffs and you need to cast more Mushrooms. This is like a holy trinity for Resto Druids. Once you get these down, there isn't much to improve on.
    Pretty much this, we 2 heal socrethar, and I assume most other 13/13 guilds are aswell, but how many healers you need when you have most players around 740-745 is not really compareable to ilvl 705, at which point 4 healers seem reasonable, 5 is just overkill though. Also you can pretty much always become a better healer, harmony/lb/mushroom only dictate how much healing you can put out, not which people gets the healing, which is what will distinguish a good healer from a bad one.
    Last edited by theburned; 2016-03-27 at 07:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theburned View Post
    Pretty much this, we 2 heal socrethar, and I assume most other 13/13 guilds are aswell, but how many healers you need when you have most players around 740-745 is not really compareable to ilvl 705, at which point 4 healers seem reasonable, 5 is just overkill though. Also you can pretty much always become a better healer, harmony/lb/mushroom only dictate how much healing you can put out, not which people gets the healing, which is what will distinguish a good healer from a bad one.
    For sure on that last statement. I just play my druid for fun as an alt..up to like 723 ilvl now, but for example on soc when gifts come out I have rejuvs on as many gifts target as I can and lifeblooms up on those targets as well. Usually mushroom is up on melee on most fights it seems

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    Quote Originally Posted by theburned View Post
    Pretty much this, we 2 heal socrethar, and I assume most other 13/13 guilds are aswell, but how many healers you need when you have most players around 740-745 is not really compareable to ilvl 705, at which point 4 healers seem reasonable, 5 is just overkill though. Also you can pretty much always become a better healer, harmony/lb/mushroom only dictate how much healing you can put out, not which people gets the healing, which is what will distinguish a good healer from a bad one.
    Anything past Harmony, Lifeblooms and Mushroom only barely increases your throughput compared to what these 3 do. You can tell yourself whatever you want and pad your own ego, but 99% of your usefulness comes from the numbers you put up and failing less to the mechanics than raid average in your group.

    Obviously nobody is telling this guy to randomly put Lifebloom on himself or whatever you are implying. What you said doesn't distinguish good druid from bad one, it only distinguishes average/above average druid from a good one. You don't need to be good to clear everything on Mythic. He can just keep 2 on the tanks for the entirety of HFC, Mushroom always under melee camp, Rejuv wounded people, pop ToL literally on cooldown and Tranq when he is told to. If a guy can do all this stuff and not fail to mechanics too often, I'd honestly take him over some healers in my alt raid, which is 13/13 Mythic at this moment. He would be better than half of the raid. Fuck it, he will be in like top 5 raiders there easily, if he would just not fail to moving out of shit and heal below average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nubulous View Post
    For sure on that last statement. I just play my druid for fun as an alt..up to like 723 ilvl now, but for example on soc when gifts come out I have rejuvs on as many gifts target as I can and lifeblooms up on those targets as well. Usually mushroom is up on melee on most fights it seems
    Yeah, these are the basics I'm talking about... You are supposed to do all that to be average (a.k.a. "not bad").
    Torty - Highmountain Druid - Turalyon EU

    Icy-Veins Guide for Restoration Druids

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    You could improve and people have already mentioned how above. Your others healers can improve loads aswell (especially your disc who thinks his job is to spam cow 90% of the time). But aside from that, you seem to be overhealing almost every fight as everyone seems extremly low on healing for their ilvl. If anyone has an os dps then make them swich to that, if not at least your MW monk could fistweave, cause hes not currently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torty View Post
    Anything past Harmony, Lifeblooms and Mushroom only barely increases your throughput compared to what these 3 do. You can tell yourself whatever you want and pad your own ego, but 99% of your usefulness comes from the numbers you put up and failing less to the mechanics than raid average in your group.

    Obviously nobody is telling this guy to randomly put Lifebloom on himself or whatever you are implying. What you said doesn't distinguish good druid from bad one, it only distinguishes average/above average druid from a good one. You don't need to be good to clear everything on Mythic. He can just keep 2 on the tanks for the entirety of HFC, Mushroom always under melee camp, Rejuv wounded people, pop ToL literally on cooldown and Tranq when he is told to. If a guy can do all this stuff and not fail to mechanics too often, I'd honestly take him over some healers in my alt raid, which is 13/13 Mythic at this moment. He would be better than half of the raid. Fuck it, he will be in like top 5 raiders there easily, if he would just not fail to moving out of shit and heal below average.
    This 100% this.

    Also, I've found it most helpful to download Weakauras and use this following weakaura to track those important uptimes:

    Tracks:
    -Harmony
    -Mushroom
    -Lifebloom (including the second from T18 4pc)

    Code:
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  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by theburned View Post
    Pretty much this, we 2 heal socrethar, and I assume most other 13/13 guilds are aswell, but how many healers you need when you have most players around 740-745 is not really compareable to ilvl 705, at which point 4 healers seem reasonable, 5 is just overkill though. Also you can pretty much always become a better healer, harmony/lb/mushroom only dictate how much healing you can put out, not which people gets the healing, which is what will distinguish a good healer from a bad one.
    They are raiding Heroic too not Mythic. But the logic still apply aniway. Too many healer.

  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by soulstaz View Post
    They are raiding Heroic too not Mythic. But the logic still apply aniway. Too many healer.
    That explains a lot.

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