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    Quote Originally Posted by Reapocalypse View Post
    That shows another problem we have with legacy realms, IF blizz ever decides to try this idea out they have to make some hard decisions; should it be 100% of the old code? (with that all the stupid things like s5 DKs if it starts with Naxx on a 3.0 one) any QoL changes? how hard should they punish griefing or wintrading? As a private realm the Nost Staff could do whatever they feel like doing (like reducing rare spawntimers).
    Thats just another reason why IF they dont want to make money off legacy realms it would be better to just punish the ones who try to make money off it, and/or even partnership projects like Nostalrius.
    You want my honest opinion, they should go back and remaster Vanilla and go from there. Make more specs viable, maybe even add another raid tier then move into BC but again make some extra additions (if not a lot) to allow even more content.
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  2. #2002
    Quote Originally Posted by Duronos View Post
    This is basically the reason, it would have cut into Legion profits. God forbid Nost had a BC test server up as to help for a BC release... BC would have destroyed retail. They had to shut it down, it was going to completely fuck them the instant BC was released.
    Considering the private server is mostly filled with people that wouldn't play wow retail anyway that's a really laughable argument.
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  3. #2003
    Quote Originally Posted by Duronos View Post
    For the most part this isn't true, Nost kept true to the patch it was technically in. You can't even get the Ivory Raptor anymore since we're in like patch 1.8 or 1.9 now?
    Wasn't the server also still technically in 1.12.1 talents? That is also where a huge part of the game changed over its cycle.
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  4. #2004
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    Quote Originally Posted by thilicen View Post
    How about the game itself, did they remake that from scratch as well?

    How do you think you'd see things if you were a game developer, owning an IP, someone takes it from the internet and re-develops the code almost to the point of being a complete match only for you to lose paying customers to an illegally created version? Honest answer here please.
    They already said that they don't want to do it, that's their take on it. It's not like they are mad. They are just shutting it down, cause legal reasons.

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    It's called knowing how the world works, you should look into that.
    The world works on approximate claims that are factually wrong?

    Good job on admittin' to being a dummie, then.

  5. #2005
    Quote Originally Posted by PvPHeroLulz View Post
    "They literally took a product that someone else made and used it for their own. Last time I checked WoW didn't come with user-end server applications."

    Making my reference of Theft to the point of , "Point me to where they stole a whole product, literally."

    Taking specific sets of data != Copy pasting a game and saying "It's mine lol"

    But good try, you took my stuff out of context, maybe you even have basic reading comprehension?
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    So sad to see Blizzard hates Vanilla that much. They hate their own base game which got them a huge playerbase

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    Quote Originally Posted by PenguinChan View Post
    Wasn't the server also still technically in 1.12.1 talents? That is also where a huge part of the game changed over its cycle.
    At the beginning yes, they fixed that though.
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  8. #2008
    I didn't play on that server, but was considering trying it out to get a taste of what it was like to play before BC. Its sad to think that its gone, though. I liked the idea of going back and seeing the old quests and pre-cata zones. I bet the community is upset, and reasonably so. Its never fun to have the rug drug out from under you like that. Condolences are in order.
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  9. #2009
    Quote Originally Posted by Duronos View Post
    At the beginning yes, they fixed that though.
    How would they even achieve that, that sounds impossible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PvPHeroLulz View Post
    They already said that they don't want to do it, that's their take on it. It's not like they are mad. They are just shutting it down, cause legal reasons.



    The world works on approximate claims that are factually wrong?

    Good job on admittin' to being a dummie, then.
    No, the world works like this:

    You can't take a product made by someone else, repackage it, and redistribute it. It's not - fucking - legal. How hard is it? You even said it yourself, it's a legal matter. Discussion should end there as there is nothing more to say.

  11. #2011
    Quote Originally Posted by Asotcha View Post
    I didn't play on that server, but was considering trying it out to get a taste of what it was like to play before BC. Its sad to think that its gone, though. I liked the idea of going back and seeing the old quests and pre-cata zones. I bet the community is upset, and reasonably so. Its never fun to have the rug drug out from under you like that. Condolences are in order.
    Well, don't stand on a stolen rug and you'll be fine.
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  12. #2012
    To the people that think it is not stealing, I guess they have never worked or created something important in their lives and see others use it without permission. I can understand the frustration of the time invested there, but still it is not a reason to talk shit to people stating the obvious.

    There are too many people making money from this. Believe me, if Nost did not make money, they would have abandoned the project. Check reddit for relevant stories.

    I have played in Nost as well for some time. I really liked the experience (mostly the community, this is what I miss from wow)! But the game was much worse than now or even WoTLK. We did not realize it back then when vanilla was the live server but it was a worse game. Anyway, it is sad to see the server go away but you cannot blame Blizzard for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomchicken View Post
    Considering the private server is mostly filled with people that wouldn't play wow retail anyway that's a really laughable argument.
    Burden of Proof, please

  14. #2014
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Jack Flash View Post
    If that was remotely true games like Wildstar and RIFT which use/d the same style progression as Vanilla would be bustling to the brim.

    As I said earlier in the thread, the only people that played these servers were poor people that wouldn't pay for the retail version regardless.
    And as stated numerous times, those games were NOT the right mix of accessibility v challenge. Did you play them? They were simply confusing.

    And your comments earlier in the thread I hold as high in regard as you do mine.

  15. #2015
    Quote Originally Posted by Rayaleith View Post
    To the people that think it is not stealing, I guess they have never worked or created something important in their lives and see others use it without permission. I can understand the frustration of the time invested there, but still it is not a reason to talk shit to people stating the obvious.

    There are too many people making money from this. Believe me, if Nost did not make money, they would have abandoned the project. Check reddit for relevant stories.

    I have played in Nost as well for some time. I really liked the experience (mostly the community, this is what I miss from wow)! But the game was much worse than now or even WoTLK. We did not realize it back then when vanilla was the live server but it was a worse game. Anyway, it is sad to see the server go away but you cannot blame Blizzard for it.
    It's like the people who try to claim people who run non profit orgs and charities don't make money off of what they do. Yeah sure they don't, they just managed to afford that mansion and the 30 cars in their garage from their side job.
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  16. #2016
    Quote Originally Posted by Idoru View Post
    And that's the illegal part...
    How? They wrote the code themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoreyai View Post
    Steal? How is it stealing?

    They're not taking money for anything, how is this any different than Fair use?
    They may not be taking money themselves but they are taking away potential subscriptions from Blizzard and the thing is that the game itself is still active and not some long abandoned game, even though that is not a guarantee of being hunted by the original IP's owners..

  18. #2018
    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    Wait, why are people for this? What exactly do you get from this? Because you think a version of WoW sucked it means no one else should enjoy it?
    Why should people get access to a service and a game that normally costs money for nothing?

    Why should Blizzard bother defending their intellectual Property?

    Anyone who defends this is just silly.

  19. #2019
    Quote Originally Posted by Radeghost View Post
    How? They wrote the code themselves
    The code to access something that isn't theirs to access.
    Bleh

  20. #2020
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duronos View Post
    it would have cut into Legion profits
    No, it wouldn't. People who wanna play Legion will play Legion. Only a Legion private server would cut into their profits. A Vanilla private server couldn't. Vanilla is something that isn't available officially through Blizzard, the people playing on Nostalrius are playing there because they want that specific experience, that Blizzard isn't willing to give them anymore anyway.

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