Drug for pedophiles to be tested in Swedish trial

[Noradin]

Nice try, but unfortunately, while LGBT people are not a menace to anyone, pedophiles - are (by virtue of minors not having the ability to give informed consent ofc).

That alone doesn't make them a menance, just like someone who is gay does not become a menance when someone they might be interested in does not give consent.
they only become a menance (and a criminal in fact) when they act on it despite not being given consent or when harrassing someone. Sexual orientation does not make a difference in that regard.

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Oh yeah, because rape is caused by testosterone. That's not sexist at all.

Not like women sleep with underaged people.

Yes, obviously women cannot be pedophiles on account of being female. Everyone knows that. /s

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But you know what.. this drug, if it works, could be nothing short of a medical wonder IMO. If it turns out to work, that is.
What if it could be obtained on prescription by people who for some (probably good) reason want to suppress their desires?

It works alright but there is nothing wondrous about it. They are simply using a drug to suppress natural testosterone production which as a side effect lowers libido. Because apparently testosterone is bad and makes pedophiles want to f*ck children.
You could use a drug like this on any man and it would have the same effect, low to non existent sex drive and unable to get and maintain an erection. It does nothing to address the problem of being sexually attracted to young children.

Just inject every man with this every 3 month and viola, no more rapes or sexual violence. Hurrah! problem solved. All men are now docile prepubescent boys.

[JohnBrown1917]

Always funny those who have sex with 14 year olds are treated worse than killers.

All men are now docile prepubescent boys.

A Catholics priest's wet dream(with them being exempt).

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Always funny those who have sex with 14 year olds are treated worse than killers.


A Catholics priest's wet dream(with them being exempt).

An adult isn't a Paedophile if they have sex with a 14 year old. A fucking creep, yes. But not a Paedophile.
Paedophiles are attracted to pre-pubescent children. Like 5 and 6 year olds.

[JohnBrown1917]

An adult isn't a Paedophile if they have sex with a 14 year old. A fucking creep, yes. But not a Paedophile.
Paedophiles are attracted to pre-pubescent children. Like 5 and 6 year olds.

Does not change what I said.

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Always funny those who have sex with 14 year olds are treated worse than killers.

The current narrative seem to be that everyone with that particular sexual orientation are sexual predators by default which i always found odd. All men aren't rapist even though many men rape.

I remember the instance of the "Cannibal Cop" who had frequented some internet site devoted to drawn pictures of pornographic cannibalism. The guy was painted as being an actual cannibal even though all he had done was watch animated pictures and role played online. That does not make him a cannibal or even a potential criminal. It was a thoughtcrime.

[BuckSparkles]

This is a testosterone lowering drug. You're not just reducing pedophilic behavior. You're reducing sex drive across the board. This is parallel to chemical castration. Immoral, borderline depraved.

Why is chemical castration immoral?

I see nothing wrong with this "treatment" for pedophiles.

The pedophile deserves no sympathy. When you sympathize, you get people who want to protect and even enable pedophiles.

I would personally prefer to just eliminate them from the gene pool.

[Underverse]

Why is chemical castration immoral?

I see nothing wrong with this "treatment" for pedophiles.

The pedophile deserves no sympathy. When you sympathize, you get people who want to protect and even enable pedophiles.

I would personally prefer to just eliminate them from the gene pool.

You're operating under the classic assumption that pedophilia is inherently destructive to the point where offenders - or even those who have not offended but simply have pedophilic thoughts - should be killed.

Do you not see how disgustingly immoral this is? What you're advocating for is something worse than a witch hunt. There is zero evidence to suggest that sexual interactions between older and younger individuals are inherently harmful. In fact, there are logical arguments to suggest the opposite. So without evidence that this activity is inherently destructive, you want to go around killing people simply because you disagree with them. That is the worst kind of vigilante justice; it's barbaric and unfounded.

You are the racist of the new generation.

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Why is chemical castration immoral?

I see nothing wrong with this "treatment" for pedophiles.

The pedophile deserves no sympathy. When you sympathize, you get people who want to protect and even enable pedophiles.

I would personally prefer to just eliminate them from the gene pool.

It sets a very ugly precedent.

Granted in this instance it's strictly voluntary so i have no major problems with it but i still think the ethics of the whole thing is suspect. This is temporary chemical castration and the physical and physiological ramifications of it can be severe when using such an unorthodox method.
People actually get treated for hypogonadism and in this case they want to chemically induce the same effect to treat a psychological issue.

[Underverse]

An adult isn't a Paedophile if they have sex with a 14 year old. A fucking creep, yes. But not a Paedophile.
Paedophiles are attracted to pre-pubescent children. Like 5 and 6 year olds.

True, but not the definition most people use. To most people - at least in the US - a pedophile is anyone who sleeps with someone under the age of consent, which is usually 17 or 18.

Which is kind of stupid. Because this is ephebophilia (the time after puberty begins and before it ends), and it's been recognized by any evolutionary biologist with half a brain to be non-pathological and quite normal (contrary to our laws).

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It sets a very ugly precedent.

Granted in this instance it's strictly voluntary so i have no major problems with it but i still think the ethics of the whole thing is suspect. This is temporary chemical castration and the physical and physiological ramifications of it can be severe when using such an unorthodox method.
People actually get treated for hypogonadism and in this case they want to chemically induce the same effect to treat a psychological issue.

It's voluntary, yes, but these people have been indoctrinated into self-hatred. Simple consent is not the only quality with moral value. There are many conditions under which an individual might consent to an immoral act. People can have very twisted views of what is acceptable and what isn't.

Also, lol @ your avatar :P

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It's voluntary, yes, but these people have been indoctrinated into self-hatred. Simple consent is not the only quality with moral value. There are many conditions under which an individual might consent to an immoral act. People can have very twisted views of what is acceptable and what isn't.

Also, lol @ your avatar :P

Interesting. I hadn't considered the subjects state of mind. I suppose the state could shame/bully these people in to undergoing these extreme experimental treatments.

[derpkitteh]

Wow ... Human rights ... do you understand what they are?

Even criminals have rights you know. Like the right to not be subjected to cruel and unusual punishments.

Jesus Christ ...

i believe human rights should be able to be revoked. those who show their self to be less than human by displaying that they're socio/psychopathic. career criminals, serial killers, serial child molesters.

there's a lot of those in our prisons, and it's a waste of a good test subject to just let them rot away in jail.

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i believe human rights should be able to be revoked. those who show their self to be less than human by displaying that they're socio/psychopathic. career criminals, serial killers, serial child molesters.

there's a lot of those in our prisons, and it's a waste of a good test subject to just let them rot away in jail.

I can certainly understand how you feel but i don't want to belong to a society who conducts medical experiments on prisoners, even if they are certified monsters.

[derpkitteh]

And maybe we can find a cure for homosexuality at the same time right?

that is why i've said that constitutional amendments would have to be made to protect gay and straight sexualities from ever being forced to use it.

pedophilia is inherently wrong and dangerous, it must be changed for the good of the pedophile and everyone around them.

[Underverse]

Interesting. I hadn't considered the subjects state of mind. I suppose the state could shame/bully these people in to undergoing these extreme experimental treatments.

Not even just the state - but broader society and culture. Most people consider pedophilia to be one of the worst crimes someone can commit because they associate it with rape, murder, psychological damage, and the vulnerability of their target, regardless of whether or not these conditions apply to individual acts.

People will do anything to find a niche in society.

[Varitok]

How about you get these people some help? If they have these urges in their head they need therapy and some sort of support. It seems Germany and Canada are some of the only countries trying to provide these people actual help and trying to understand it. Try to stop them before they offend, Do you think these people want to have these urges in their heads? It's pretty ridiculous.

[judgementofantonidas]

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/...hilic-impulses



Thoughts on this?

sorry. but if they can cure pedophilia then they can cure gay. and we sure don't want that fact coming out.

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Why is chemical castration immoral?

I see nothing wrong with this "treatment" for pedophiles.

The pedophile deserves no sympathy. When you sympathize, you get people who want to protect and even enable pedophiles.

I would personally prefer to just eliminate them from the gene pool.

That you even need to ask why chemical castration is immoral is beyond me. It seems pretty obvious that corporal punishment is immoral.

"Treatment" is the correct term, it should include the "" as it isn't treating it, it is merely sexually lobotomizing this person. And this "treatment" has other unwanted side effects as well like bone density loss among other things.

What is wrong with protect a pedophile who did nothing wrong? And enabling pedophiles!? Do you really believe that people will give pedophiles children to molest, at some point, just because people acknowledge that such a thing as pedophiles exist? That seems like far fetched to me.
Personally i'd much rather have such a person feel free to come forward with these feelings that they have, and feel safe to do so, then ostracize them. When you ostracize them the chance of them acting out on fantasy is much greater then when they are monitored.

That is just not how any of that works, you can't eliminate something like this out off the gene pool. Just like you cant get rid off people that fancy blondes or brunettes.

[Underverse]

i believe human rights should be able to be revoked. those who show their self to be less than human by displaying that they're socio/psychopathic. career criminals, serial killers, serial child molesters.

there's a lot of those in our prisons, and it's a waste of a good test subject to just let them rot away in jail.

Hey, thanks for providing a fitting example for my previous post. Throwing in child molesters with serial killers. It would be funny if I knew you weren't serious.

[judgementofantonidas]

that is why i've said that constitutional amendments would have to be made to protect gay and straight sexualities from ever being forced to use it.

pedophilia is inherently wrong and dangerous, it must be changed for the good of the pedophile and everyone around them.

if it is curable then it is a disease. no?