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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumble View Post
    Maybe in the new Matrix movie, but she was never THAT good a looking actres in the first place. Lanfear is supposed to be THE best looking woman any man has ever seen.

    There is being nice to someone and just flat out lying.

    These could have worked, but lord they are going bottom of the barrel.







    I personally would go with Jaimie Alexander.... raven hair, gorgeous beyond belief..... stupid MCU should have used her way better.

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    That must have hurt your brain coming up with such a zinger..... wooo boy
    look at you thinking your personal taste = objective truth


    meanwhile I happen to think Natasha O'keefe is far better looking then Natalie Dormer, but that's the thing about personal preferences! they vary! (and i also love how you chose a candid shot mid talking and compared it to posed shots... cute




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    yes because it only takes the greatest minds to say facts > feelings when they are just going off of there own feelings on casting., lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumble View Post
    I personally would go with Jaimie Alexander.... raven hair, gorgeous beyond belief..... stupid MCU should have used her way better.
    The amusing part is you are basing this on the what you find attractive. Which is entirely subjective. Personally I think the Mrs.O'keeffe looks just as good or better then your suggestions. Did you see her other pictures? Or did you purposefully pick one that makes her look bad to you? As her "headshot" looks different.

    We also haven't seen her in makeup for WoT which could drastically change her look.
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    It's trivially easy for a photo to make pretty much ANYONE look bad. Lighting, the situation, makeup, lens angle, etc... You could take a supermodel and have her look like strip mall trash with a bad shot.

    Until we see her in the actual show we have no idea what she'll really look like on screen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biomega View Post
    It's trivially easy for a photo to make pretty much ANYONE look bad. Lighting, the situation, makeup, lens angle, etc... You could take a supermodel and have her look like strip mall trash with a bad shot.

    Until we see her in the actual show we have no idea what she'll really look like on screen.
    I posted an image of her from "Peaky Binders" so we do have an idea of what she can look like /shrug.

    meanwhile hey I can find images that are not as flattering too!


    mind you I happen to think that both Jamie and Natasha still look great in those candid shots, but I think my point here is pretty obvious

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    Man peak Cathrine Zeta-Jones (like Zorro era, not this sad botox modern era) would have been a perfect Lanfear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    Now you are just being hateful for the sake of it. If you don't like the show that is fine but there is no reason to be insulting a persons appearance just because you are looking for things to hate. Just move on from the show and surround yourself with something you actually enjoy.
    I would not call the lady busted but she is no Lanfear. She is a beautiful woman even but Lanfear in both forms that she appears in the books is supposed to be arrestingly beautiful; the most beautiful woman anyone has ever seen.

    Personally when I think Lanfear I think Eva Green but that's way above their budget.

    And speaking of the Forsaken, can you imagine them trying to recreate any scene with Graendal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I would not call the lady busted but she is no Lanfear. She is a beautiful woman even but Lanfear in both forms that she appears in the books is supposed to be arrestingly beautiful; the most beautiful woman anyone has ever seen.
    Which is an unrealistic thing for a film to accurately cast. There is a reason why descriptors like that work in books. The reader imagines it and is given an ultimatum of how the character looks rather then using visual cues of "attractivness" to reach that conclusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    Which is an unrealistic thing for a film to accurately cast. There is a reason why descriptors like that work in books. The reader imagines it and is given an ultimatum of how the character looks rather then using visual cues of "attractivness" to reach that conclusion.
    We are talking about a woman who is so attractive that she causes other incredibly attractive woman to fade into the background. Assuming that's the role she is casted as it's incredibly terrible casting. Someone like Daddario or another similar type of actress is what is needed for the role. Sorry but someone who was never at that level just doesn't fit that. Especially due to age range needed to cover as she changes her looks throughout the series originally appearing to be close to Rand's age as Selene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I would not call the lady busted but she is no Lanfear. She is a beautiful woman even but Lanfear in both forms that she appears in the books is supposed to be arrestingly beautiful; the most beautiful woman anyone has ever seen.

    Personally when I think Lanfear I think Eva Green but that's way above their budget.

    And speaking of the Forsaken, can you imagine them trying to recreate any scene with Graendal?
    At this point I expect them to cut half of them as well as Verin and role her role into Moiraine including that part which they won't get to anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    Now you are just being hateful for the sake of it. If you don't like the show that is fine but there is no reason to be insulting a persons appearance just because you are looking for things to hate. Just move on from the show and surround yourself with something you actually enjoy.
    Look at this sychophant over here defending a terrible casting choice. Lanfear is literally supposed to be the most beautiful woman in the world, instead they cast some mid looking nerdy chick who looks like she belongs in Napolean Dynamite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I would not call the lady busted but she is no Lanfear. She is a beautiful woman even but Lanfear in both forms that she appears in the books is supposed to be arrestingly beautiful; the most beautiful woman anyone has ever seen.

    Personally when I think Lanfear I think Eva Green but that's way above their budget.

    And speaking of the Forsaken, can you imagine them trying to recreate any scene with Graendal?
    If I had to guess, the degeneracy that is Graendal probably offends Rafe's sensibilities and will also be gutted from the show, not that I anticipate that they will get that far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennadrel View Post
    If I had to guess, the degeneracy that is Graendal probably offends Rafe's sensibilities and will also be gutted from the show, not that I anticipate that they will get that far.
    Graendal is my favourite, she and Ishamael are the only Forsaken who chose the Dark One for reasons that were not petty.

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    I can see them rolling Graendal, and Moggy into one character and Mesaana and Semirhage into another -if they get *that* far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smallfruitbat View Post
    I can see them rolling Graendal, and Moggy into one character and Mesaana and Semirhage into another -if they get *that* far.
    That isn't going to be the worst one they are going to roll Verin into either Moraine or Elaida just watch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xath View Post
    That isn't going to be the worst one they are going to roll Verin into either Moraine or Elaida just watch
    Ouch. That hurt. I wish the concept of making Verin and Elaida the same person had never been put before my eyes.

    Ouch man, that hurts.


    Imagining the "tea scene" with Elaida instead of Verin. Or Egwene standing up to Verin at dinner....


    Sheesh.... that hurts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xath View Post
    That isn't going to be the worst one they are going to roll Verin into either Moraine or Elaida just watch
    Odds on Bryne and Thom being merged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smallfruitbat View Post
    Odds on Bryne and Thom being merged.
    I feel like I read somewhere that they were only going with 8 forsaken, but that might have been someone theorycrafting what they would do.

    Either way feel like a lot of fun side characters are going to be missed (I feel like Tylin might be cut, she was a fun character).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumble View Post
    Ouch. That hurt. I wish the concept of making Verin and Elaida the same person had never been put before my eyes.

    Ouch man, that hurts.


    Imagining the "tea scene" with Elaida instead of Verin. Or Egwene standing up to Verin at dinner....


    Sheesh.... that hurts
    Here's the real question though is it worse than rolling her and Moiraine into one and keeping that the same. I mean in Rafe's mind they were both fighting the dark one after all just in different ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smallfruitbat View Post
    Odds on Bryne and Thom being merged.
    Oh geez that would be bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xath View Post
    Here's the real question though is it worse than rolling her and Moiraine into one and keeping that the same. I mean in Rafe's mind they were both fighting the dark one after all just in different ways.

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    Oh geez that would be bad
    I think Moraine and Verin becoming one is more likely and less damaging. They will not be able to do the "I was a DF all along and did it to help", but that is at the end and I doubt anyone there thinks that show will last that long. Verin is similar enough to Moraine for a good portion of the books that they could do that. It is only the people that have read the whole thing and know WHY they are SO VERY different that would have an issue with it.

    Elaida and Verin are nothing alike and serve no similar purpose in the story. HOWEVER, since they skipped Caemlyn and will likely cut out Morgase's story all together, Elaida could be combined with someone else and have it work out alright. Not sure who, but it could happen, maybe Liandrin, she seems likely.

    I would not count on ever meeting Gareth Bryne. With them skipping Caemlyn you could argue that they never actually explore those characters. Elayne will get explored since she will be at the White Tower with the girls, and because she is such a huge part of the story. But her mom and her brothers and anyone associated with them? Expect those to be cut. Gareth Bryne serves nearly no purpose if you cut out alot of the story. Without Morgase, he is totally skippable. You can even sub in someone else to be the general for E later on if they ever get that far.


    ^ All of that made me depressed to write. I'm gonna go read book 2 some more. Rand just found Thom, so I'm getting to the good parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eschatological View Post
    Audiobooks take more time than reading the physical book. The only "good" audiobooks are for is for listening to books in the background while doing something else, which lowers retention of the story. It is strictly an inferior way of consuming a book.

    This is my TED Talk on the evil of modernity vis a vis audiobooks, thanks for attending.
    Look, I may agree with you for my personal preference. But none of what you stated above is a fact.

    Not everyone reads as fast as you, or I, do. For some people, audiobooks ARE faster for them than reading themselves. And there is such a thing as "auditory learning preferences" - for some people they remember what they hear, more (or easier) than what they read. Not even getting into the myriad of learning disabilities that effect this type of learning/processing as well that makes audiobooks actually superior, for some people, over reading and retaining "the written word."

    That is my TED talk on understanding people are different. Thanks for attending.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumble View Post
    I think Moraine and Verin becoming one is more likely and less damaging. They will not be able to do the "I was a DF all along and did it to help", but that is at the end and I doubt anyone there thinks that show will last that long. Verin is similar enough to Moraine for a good portion of the books that they could do that. It is only the people that have read the whole thing and know WHY they are SO VERY different that would have an issue with it.

    Elaida and Verin are nothing alike and serve no similar purpose in the story. HOWEVER, since they skipped Caemlyn and will likely cut out Morgase's story all together, Elaida could be combined with someone else and have it work out alright. Not sure who, but it could happen, maybe Liandrin, she seems likely.

    I would not count on ever meeting Gareth Bryne. With them skipping Caemlyn you could argue that they never actually explore those characters. Elayne will get explored since she will be at the White Tower with the girls, and because she is such a huge part of the story. But her mom and her brothers and anyone associated with them? Expect those to be cut. Gareth Bryne serves nearly no purpose if you cut out alot of the story. Without Morgase, he is totally skippable. You can even sub in someone else to be the general for E later on if they ever get that far.


    ^ All of that made me depressed to write. I'm gonna go read book 2 some more. Rand just found Thom, so I'm getting to the good parts.
    They could just have Elaida be Amyrlin from the start and skip that arc and Siuan as a character (and thus Bryne as well).

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    Which is an unrealistic thing for a film to accurately cast. There is a reason why descriptors like that work in books. The reader imagines it and is given an ultimatum of how the character looks rather then using visual cues of "attractivness" to reach that conclusion.
    No doubt.

    I mean the standard of casting "the one woman who puts everyone else to shame" is an impossibility. There is no possible way to pick ANY actress and have every man (or woman) who watches the show agree that they are the "most beautiful in the world."

    Every choice would be a failure to someone.

    There are plenty of legit issues with this show. No need to go pick on this one casting choice no matter whether you feel the person they picked is attractive or not. Way better points on the other problems with the show.
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