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    2 mil spider mount... but infernals?

    So i was looking over the amount of people complaining about the new spider mount and how it costs 2 million

    then i noticed the infernal mounts.. .all 100% unique models, no where else in the game... (atleast so far) and they are from gladiator ONLY
    and this is a first, most of the gladiator mounts ussauly have lesser versions of themselves ingame... but this time its not these are no where else

    but here is a kicker...


    so people are complaining about a 2 mil gold spider... well dont buy it now, can buy it 2 expacs from now

    but these new infernal mounts (and all special armor sets from pvp no longer obtainable...)

    why? i know people will say "but then pvp gets something unique" well please blizzard... stop making items that are only for a massive minority (0.5% of people in pvp...) with brand new unique models... im fine with titles... but this is 5 infernal mounts, no where else in the game! nothing even close! and only those top 0.5% can have them...

    i was fine with the upgraded mounts, like the nether drake, the frostwyrm, the twilight drake.... the cloud... serpent... and... gron...ling...

    yeah this is the first gladiator mount that is not a upgraded version of another mount, this is a 100% unique mount set that will only be obtainable by super high end pvpers...


    as a destro/demo warlock i cried in joy when i saw these (vindictive i want so bad) but im not much of a pvper... now heres the thing

    yes pvpers should get pvp things, and pve'ers special pve things...

    but when a raid goes out, pvp/pve'rs can still go back and farm that content for mog/mounts...

    but with pvp once a season ends, goodbye to that awesome mog you wanted, goodbye to those mounts you wanted, as they are gone, no way to get them...

    and now this would be fine if it had a lower requirement like AotC like PVE does (defeat heroic final boss) most groups will give you that for free

    but the unique pvp stuff is top 0.5%... and idk, i am fine with there being "special only at the time stuff"

    but that stuff needs to have a alternative... something less flashy but means that those that want it can still atleast have a general of that....

    idk it may just be me, feel free to debate/discuss/share your opinion as i have mine, but i just hate this idea of 100% limited time super hard to get items... as it means players who either 1. dident play then, or 2 may not have been able to, can never get that...

    if not guess i will be putting out 500$ to get a gladiator carry so i can get the mount...


    (again im not hating on pvpers, i just dont like the idea of having 100% unique limited time items that are super hard to get, and if they did it would be nice if they could atleast add one to PVE since PVE doesent have one)
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    if you want an infernal mount maybe you should earn one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reglitch View Post
    if you want an infernal mount maybe you should earn one
    i dont think you quite get the point of my post


    its more about the fact PVE gear, mounts, etc is all able to be farmed for in later expansions, and the stuff that cant, is super easy to get during that expansion

    but with pvp that gear and mounts is limited to a very few people and must be obtained that patch, and i dont really think making stuff, that only a few people can get ,then never making anything similar is a good idea, as it just pisses people off of "ive allways wanted an infernal mount, why is it in pvp and not pve!? were fighting the legion? bullshit

    and every single past gladiator mount has been a upgraded version of a mount you could get otherwise, and thats a good idea, as it allows those who get it to be high and mighty, but still makes those who want a bone dragon, to be able to use a bone dragon, not as badass as the pvp one, but atleast they have one
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    BFA/SL were masterpieces compared to garbage DF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plaguestorm View Post
    i dont think you quite get the point of my post


    its more about the fact PVE gear, mounts, etc is all able to be farmed for in later expansions, and the stuff that cant, is super easy to get during that expansion

    but with pvp that gear and mounts is limited to a very few people and must be obtained that patch, and i dont really think making stuff, that only a few people can get ,then never making anything similar is a good idea, as it just pisses people off of "ive allways wanted an infernal mount, why is it in pvp and not pve!? were fighting the legion? bullshit

    and every single past gladiator mount has been a upgraded version of a mount you could get otherwise, and thats a good idea, as it allows those who get it to be high and mighty, but still makes those who want a bone dragon, to be able to use a bone dragon, not as badass as the pvp one, but atleast they have one
    thats nice but maybe if you really want an infernal mount you should earn one

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    Probably the best thing to do instead of QQing or paying $500 for a carry would be to get good and earn it like Reglitch says.

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    want it?
    get good and earn it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    I think people are already complaining about infernals. They did cry rivers in the news post comments and told you to "stfu" if you suggested it is time that pvpers get something unique too...you know...like raiders get pretty much every patch...
    i dont think you get it quite either...


    so a pvper come the next expansion... can come back and get anything and everyone from HFC (except the moose but that requires heroic, and thats super easy)

    a pver wants to get transmog and such from the PVP of such, they cant get it...


    now i would be fine with this if like the archimonde mythic sets and the archimonde mythic mount were 100% removed when the next raid came out... but it isent... so you can just farm it next expansion


    PVE (limited items) moose, do heroic archimonde, groups will do that with you in 15 minutes for free

    PVP (limited items) during this season farm tons of conquest to buy all the armor, and reach such a high rating you are in the top 0.5%, something that can take weeks of hard core practice and playing
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    BFA/SL were masterpieces compared to garbage DF.

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    I maybe see a glad mount once a month and have never seen a glad Gronn from this expansion so Ill probably never see an Infernal in game soooo Im just gunna pretend they don't exist.

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    i dont think anyone is quite getting what im trying to say...



    PVP will have special 100% one of a kind mounts, no where else in the game, that will only be obtainable by the top 0.5%

    well pve gets a moose (that is free and takes 15 minutes) and there is 3 other moose mounts in legion? cool...


    my issue is not "I DONT WANNA WORK FOR IT"

    my issue is we get these super cool mounts, that will be only obtainable by a VERY SMALL amount of people for a very small amount of time, and there will be no equivalent for those who dont make it....


    look at all the old gladiator mounts like the armored netherdrake, armor frostwrym, armored twilight drake, armored cloud serpent and armored gron

    my issue is not "pvp gets something you have to work for"

    my issue is "want a infernal mount of any kind?! welp too bad cause gotta be top 0.5%"

    i am fine with them having cool unique mounts

    but mabye give them a armored infernal! look super cool, and add normal infernals in the game elsewhere


    like these current ones, either make them the, can get elsewere and make ones that have massive cool armor and cool effects on them for pvp gladiator, or mabye keep these ones, and make normal infernals with no spikes or coller as the just, get elsewere


    again i am fine with pvp having unique limited time mounts

    but make a lower version of it somewhere, so those we wanna go "im riding a infernal" still can, it wont look as super cool as the pvp one, but atleast you will have the option...
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    BFA/SL were masterpieces compared to garbage DF.

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    Here is an idea - if you want the mount, log in and earn it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    Maybe because you quoted the wrong part of my post. I get it. it is " So..one is tiny chance, the other only in current content." Like I said. Blizzard tries different things. And Gladiator mounts have..since TBC I think ..been a one off. Get it or suck it up.

    Does a pvper get new BGs every patch? No, but raiders get new raid tiers etc etc. But yeah..now they also complain about that mount. A mount that only 1% of pvpers get anyhow. It is rare. It is their design. You disagree. Perfectly fine.

    Might as well make a thread about how unfair the plaqued proto, the ZG Tiger and the Scarab Lord bug are
    again you are not reading what im saying...

    I AM FINE, WITH ONE OFF MOUNTS

    my issue with this, is that for example

    BC, The armored neather drake as the pvp mount but you could still go out into the world and get a unarmored, not as cool, nether drake

    Wrath, the armored frost wyrm, able to get a unarmored one from cheivs

    cata, twlight drake from obsidian sanctum, but armored one pvp only

    mop, armored cloud serpent, pvp only, but could get unarmored not as cool ones elsewhere

    wod, armored gronlings, pvp only, but you could get unarmored ones elsewhere

    legion, infernal... no alternative...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plaguestorm View Post
    i dont think you get it quite either...


    so a pvper come the next expansion... can come back and get anything and everyone from HFC (except the moose but that requires heroic, and thats super easy)

    a pver wants to get transmog and such from the PVP of such, they cant get it...


    now i would be fine with this if like the archimonde mythic sets and the archimonde mythic mount were 100% removed when the next raid came out... but it isent... so you can just farm it next expansion


    PVE (limited items) moose, do heroic archimonde, groups will do that with you in 15 minutes for free

    PVP (limited items) during this season farm tons of conquest to buy all the armor, and reach such a high rating you are in the top 0.5%, something that can take weeks of hard core practice and playing
    The Gladiator mounts are also a LOT harder to obtain than the PvE mounts. Why would you make something more unique to the thing that is easier to do? That's backwards logic.

    If you want the PvP mount, earn it.

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    im just gunna delete the thread cause no one is reading what im saying...

    i am fine with one off mounts, as long as they provide a alternative...

    the issue is come wrath people were like "ok no more armored netherdrakes... but i guess i could go get the normal nether drakes"

    Cata "ok no more armored frostwyrms... guess i could go get the normal ones...."

    Mop "ok no more armored twilight drake.. .guess i could go get the normal one"

    Wod "ok no more armored serpent... guess i could get the normal ones..."

    Legion "ok no more armored gronlings... guess i could get the normal ones...."
    ??? " ok no more infernals....... well fuck, never gunna see those ever again"
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    You are judging two different sides of the game against one and other, you cannot do that.

    Also not a PVPer but PVP takes a hell of a lot longer to do than PVE does ( or has recently) .

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    NO lets not take away things for PVE players to do.

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    Lets be honest, there is no way the Infernal "skeleton" will stay exclusive to Gladiators. That said, I do think it would be cool to keep them exclusive for the entirety of the expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plaguestorm View Post
    legion, infernal... no alternative...
    pvpers get a recolor with some few additional features -> no one gives 2 shits.
    pvpers get a completely unique mount -> "excuse me? where is the pve alternative blizz!?"



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    I agree that an alternative should be added, but my guess is it will come later in Legion so that it remains exclusive for a while as to not make it seem less impressive than it should be. If only a tiny fraction of the population will get it first, they should have an opportunity to show it off before any alternatives are added.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JestersShadow View Post
    You are judging two different sides of the game against one and other, you cannot do that.

    Also not a PVPer but PVP takes a hell of a lot longer to do than PVE does ( or has recently) .
    yeah, i love pvp, i want the infernal so bad, but i worry if i do not get glad in the season, then we will NEVER SEE ANOTHER INFERNAL MOUNT EVER AGAIN and thats what worries me...

    with the mop glad mounts, we could get, less cool serpents still, in wod we could get less cool gronlings, same with bc, wrath, and cata, but with these infernals, miss the season? tough luck, your never going to get a infernal mount ever, no matter how pathetic and unarmored it looks
    Quote Originally Posted by kamuimac View Post
    BFA/SL were masterpieces compared to garbage DF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Magnus View Post
    I agree that an alternative should be added, but my guess is it will come later in Legion so that it remains exclusive for a while as to not make it seem less impressive than it should be. If only a tiny fraction of the population will get it first, they should have an opportunity to show it off before any alternatives are added.
    Each branch of the game should have a mount only available from that, Like back when gear didn't just have re-skins. IT shows player commitment to a branch of the game.

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    I don't care where this mount comes from as long as they get away from World Boss mounts. I like the idea of hard work pays, RNG is such a bitch.

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