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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattrik View Post
    I think you are confused about the geographic location of the Oceanic servers and the local languages.

    Sincerely,
    A player from New Zealand
    i wouldnt doubt it, im afraid i fit the meme that americans are geographically challenged. 'Murica. shamefully representing lmao

    Quote Originally Posted by Axaion View Post
    smurfs should get their main battle.net account closed for 6months+ every time they do it
    ehhh i run into them every now and then but its not that bad. unfortunately they are always on the other team and im the one getting called smurf. i see a pair of them every now and then and its frustrating because the guy is only a little bit better than me so i always lose because they rip my team apart before i can even finish killing their supports

    people hate cocky players that brag and think they are the best thing to happen to gaming since twitch and youtube and you might find it insufferable but its a good mindset to have because if you have it in your mind that you are better than everyone else, it will challenge you to better control your circumstances

    like maybe an enemy player is really good mechanically but they are not a good ranked player so you can easily bait them into duels. try to see adversity as a challenge, dont give up just because someone is a smurf. use your game knowledge to exploit the weaknesses in their behavior and tendencies. i cant tell you how many times people will spawn camp my team and sit too close together and i switch to reinhardt just to beat them all down and we wipe them and take point

    most smurfs are not that much better than the rank they are smurfing in. they want easier games but they dont want to feel like they are playing against npcs. sometimes they are not even smurfs, just people who mega tilted and threw games to drop ranks because they were tired of the consistent pressure at their rank as a result of inconsistent teammates

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucifer Morningstar View Post
    I main widowmaker and I'm constantly killing healers and out of position heroes. I get told gg at the start, i get toldto swap, and I get called a hacker by enemy team whom I dont allow out of spawn.

    I am so confused
    well man in the more learned community of competitive widowmaker is what you'd call a specialist type hero. it will make your team a lot more confident if you play heroes that can adapt to change easily bc if you cant handle a winston and someone gets mad enough that you keep picking them or their teammates all they have to do is play winston and boom you are counter picked. But lets say for example you're on nepal shrine and you pick widow. i mean, yeah, widow can work there. i don't like it, but its not the worst map you could choose to play her on. but someone else picks torbjorn and reaper.

    this literally makes you look like hitler unless you are godlike because torb is either throwing or just a dumbass. i mean, there's the 0.000001% chance they aren't but in every single scenario it makes you the weakest link because no one is expecting you to be good and all of these heroes are very dependent, but even if torb and reaper arent amazing their ults and kits have a lot of value without even considering their static damage capability. this places a lot of pressure on you to be very good.

    in short, at low ranks multi-purpose heroes are better because they are much more independent and low maintenance and also pair well with many heroes - these are heroes like Junkrat, McCree, Pharah, Soldier 76 and Tracer. Personally, these are the hero picks I am always the most happy to see:

    Damage: Soldier 76 (esp if enemy Pharah), Pharah, Torbjorn (on Defense), Symmetra (on Defense), Reaper (Control), Bastion, Junkrat (if player isnt one trick), McCree (if enemy Mercy)
    Support: Mercy, Zenyatta (most versatile & powerful healers, plus they actually heal)
    Tank: Reinhardt, Orissa (esp if Torb), Zarya, Reinhardt + Orissa (Attack/Defense, esp if Bastion and/or Torb), Reinhardt + Zarya, DVA (Attack)

    Heroes I am most unhappy to see picked:
    Damage: Doomfist, Hanzo, Sombra, Tracer*, Genji*, McCree* (<-- all left very punishing and super low dmg if played badly), Mei, (so many bad walls) Torbjorn (if little/no attack support, esp hate on control),
    Support: Moira, Ana, Lucio (dont let dps do their job, critically mismanage resources frequently)
    Tank: Solo Roadhog, Solo DVA, Solo Winston, Roadhog + DVA, but just Winston in general because he's usually played by an overly aggressive solo diving retard. I used to like seeing him a lot because he's an amazing hero with a deceptively high skill ceiling, but what can you do?

    * = in addition to description, takes away my hero swap options

    It's not a perfect guide, but I'm sure the overall community impression of these heroes isn't too different. I mean, I try to work with a Widowmaker player if the comp looks solid and allows for a reasonable amount of babysitting because she can be very powerful even in the hands of an inconsistent player but you can't afford to spread yourself too thin with random people you don't know, so it's always going to make people feel uncomfortable when you ask them to trust you. It sucks you like Widowmaker a lot and the only environment you want to play her in is competitive because people there are actually trying to win, but competitive is unfortunately about adapting to your circumstances and trying to come out on top.

    If you're doing well, I'd just ignore them. That's what I do when people bother me about my pick to the point they are demanding I swap but I also strive for excellence and I know when I'm not meeting my expectations and that something needs to change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandrake View Post
    I've been feeling myself that way lately so I've taken it upon myself to become a Hanzo main so I can see how much better I still am than other DPS players at my rank since they seem to always be so awful. Plus, they're redoing the skin so at least I'll look cool.

    So far I'm pretty disappointed because I am doing much better than I thought I would. Playing my worst hero, I am still consistently the best player on my team. The worst thing about this is that I'm actually starting to like him because he's like a cheesy gimped McCree with better repositioning.
    The problem becomes that when people see a Hanzo in their team, they tend to give up, which makes being the best player as Hanzo a bit easier.

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    Shit again. MMR system can’t handle premades. They even said they know it’s a problem but refuse to change it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    Shit again. MMR system can’t handle premades. They even said they know it’s a problem but refuse to change it.
    What do you mean by "MMR system can't handle premades"? Do you mean problems that happen when premades face eachother, or when it's poor balanced of premade, for instance, a 5-man team (with 1 pug) vs a 2-man team and a 3-man team (with 1 pug), that I see almost always, and OF COURSE, I'm the 1 pug in the 2/3team side... aka instant loss.

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    Tried to play arcade earlier and was having issues with latency scaling with how close i was to the objective.

    Spawn room my usual 40ms, by the point 700ms. I would die and instantly drop down to 40 again and half hay to the point i would have 400ms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Battlebeard View Post
    What do you mean by "MMR system can't handle premades"? Do you mean problems that happen when premades face eachother, or when it's poor balanced of premade, for instance, a 5-man team (with 1 pug) vs a 2-man team and a 3-man team (with 1 pug), that I see almost always, and OF COURSE, I'm the 1 pug in the 2/3team side... aka instant loss.
    Wide skill gaps within the premade, it’s incapable of averaging that out and producing an opposition of similar skill. It seems okay in full solo queue or if the premade is genuinely roughly equal, but as the gap opens the worse it gets at trying to balance.

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    I swear it's like every other time I start this game up, I do my warm ups and I go into comp and 5 minutes into the game I am tilted because of some stupid fucking bullshit like a stack player being a fucking retard or 1v3ing a team and getting cheesed by a fuckzo arrow while my team gets 3v5'd.

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    Interesting to see this thread on the first page, so I guess I'll throw in my 2 cents.

    The quality of my life has gone up significantly since uninstalling Overwatch.

    I don't care about all of the awards, e-sports, professional scene, hype, developer updates, or anything else about that game--the community is so toxic that it's not worth ever playing. There is simply no way for them to actively manage the toxicity problem. There is absolutely nothing that could happen that would ever make me play Overwatch again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oftenwrongsoong View Post
    Interesting to see this thread on the first page, so I guess I'll throw in my 2 cents.

    The quality of my life has gone up significantly since uninstalling Overwatch.

    I don't care about all of the awards, e-sports, professional scene, hype, developer updates, or anything else about that game--the community is so toxic that it's not worth ever playing. There is simply no way for them to actively manage the toxicity problem. There is absolutely nothing that could happen that would ever make me play Overwatch again.
    I don't think it's that bad really, toxic people are everywhere you need to get used to deal with them imo. I encountered more good people than toxic to be honest.

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    After 2 weeks and aproxx 50 games i managed to reach 6/10 placement matches. i only had 9 leavers in 12 games today leaving while the comp was made. Was a good day.

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    Not to complain too much about Blizzard's system, but I miss the days of ladder ranks and your placement solely based on W/L. Just as an example, in MW, I might start the game as a sniper but see it wasn't helping my team or I was getting outclassed by an enemy sniper/flanker/run n gun, so I would swap my loadout and take a completely different approach. Sometimes we'd win, sometimes we'd lose, but I was more concentrated on winning the match than I was personal performance on the sniper loadout.
    With OW, I started with more of a win/play as a team mentality, but advice the game has progressed and more of the SR/MMR points have come to light, I find myself caring less about the team and playing what I am best at. If we win, great, because I just earned more points sticking to that character. If we lose, oh well, because I just lost less by sticking to that character.
    That being said, I think it's great Blizz is trying to redesign the system and put more thought than just a simple W/L system; however, there's a lot of negative that comes with it and it shows more than any of the positive.
    I read a lot of these posts where people say they carry, or play as a team and climb. The issue is, most of these people who talk about carrying are right around my same SR, so I can't really take them seriously. Play as a team? Sounds great, but how should I play as a team with 1-5 other people who have the mentality of "play what I'm best at and damn the rest!?"
    I'm not a high diamond player, I'm no where near a Master player, but I do play roughly mid to high Plat, and with a W/L ratio I might be able to climb past that. As it stands, with the current system, I will never move past or even fall below (unless I throw a match which I am so against it would never happen). So, the game stagnates for me. I have peaked at the skill I will be at with no hope of moving around.

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    Done. Lost over 500SR now from my season high. It's been so bad, that I've gone from net gains of SR at 2400+ to net losses at 1900. I can't even play Widow anymore without people throwing, even if they're not throwing because of that, they just decide they're with a friend to 'have fun' and throw any semblance of teamplay out the window.

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    Nowadays, only playing OW when there are good arcade modes like Total Mayhem. Fights last longer and are a good way to practice the aim. Con is that once you go back to a 'normal' mode, you forget that dieing is more punishing and that your cooldowns aren't as low as they used to be. :P
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    Being bad is the first step to gittin gud, before anyone was gud, they were bad. Not everyone is as equally skilled at the start but everyone can learn to git gud. - Ythisens
    Tofinish list : NOTHING CAUSE I FINALLY DID IT.
    Todo list : S;G0, New Game, Erased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    Done. Lost over 500SR now from my season high. It's been so bad, that I've gone from net gains of SR at 2400+ to net losses at 1900. I can't even play Widow anymore without people throwing, even if they're not throwing because of that, they just decide they're with a friend to 'have fun' and throw any semblance of teamplay out the window.
    dont play widow
    HEROES NEVER DIE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trollfat View Post
    dont play widow
    Widow is the new meta if the Widow is good. Don't believe me? Watch the OW league games. She is the counter to mercy meta. She counters every healer in the game and she even gets used as bait to draw out dive winstons.

    People who complain about widows need to get caught up with current timezones.
    If you push a button that finds you a 'random group' and it gives you a random group of people with random skill and random knowledge then you have no right to complain that a 'random group' button did what it was designed to do. The fault lies in your inability to make friends to play with instead of relying on a button designed to be random. It is a 'random group' button, not a 'best of the best' button.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trollfat View Post
    dont play widow
    She’s less than half my game time, but either way, picking her does not excuse people throwing over it.

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    is it a free weekend or something? this game is really starting to piss me off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandrake View Post
    is it a free weekend or something? this game is really starting to piss me off
    Holiday season, discounted game.

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    Decided to do my placements after a 2 season absense (I don't care much about ranked, I just want my golden Moira nails).



    What?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    Done. Lost over 500SR now from my season high. It's been so bad, that I've gone from net gains of SR at 2400+ to net losses at 1900. I can't even play Widow anymore without people throwing, even if they're not throwing because of that, they just decide they're with a friend to 'have fun' and throw any semblance of teamplay out the window.
    No offence, but why do you keep playing. STOP in time, or your next placement will be a nightmare. When you go into placement, you have no rank BUT your opponent and your team will be about what you had the previous season. If you end this season at 1900, your next placement will be with about 1900 people. I am stuck in platinum, due to solo queue, been close to diamond, but also kinda close to gold. Varied about 300 SR all in all. However, IF I ever get down to 2500 I would stop Comp this season, to get a new placement next.

    You seem to rank up ALOT more from placement wins than from actual seasonal wins. Try end at as high as you can in a season!

    Also, don't play Widowmaker in comp. It makes people give up, even if you are a god. I am a widow main myself, and my only pride and bragright in ANY video games, is that I consider myself a widow god, BUT I would NEVER play her in comp, since she is a poor team-play character, I mean, a widow escorting a payload is useless etc. And she make people give up. Sad but true

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