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    Quote Originally Posted by Seefer View Post
    Team game pal, kind of hard to rank up when you lose because people only want to DPS, people throw, people leave, people are out for themselves and not working as a team.............sorry you can't kill a stationary Mercy either.
    Pretty much the truth. Here is a typical Moira loss in comp:



    Sure, it's Moira... But, when you have a Mercy and a full normal comp of tanks and DPS....what else is someone personally supposed to do? This is pretty much the definition of carried, minus the winning. And performing at this level, while it certainly reduced the points I lost down to 17, what if this happens over and over and over? B/c it does.

    If personal rank didn't matter I could have switched to DPS or Tank to try and alleviate our obvious weakness, but b/c Blizzard says Plat doesn't count...no point in switching. Just lock Moira all day every day and pray for Diamond.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speaknoevil View Post
    He is this toxic on a forum, think about the people who get him on their team. Not much is worse than a know-it-all that really knows nothing.

    If you don't belong at a certain rank, you won't stay there if you play a lot. Period. If this wasn't true why can I rank up so easily on my smurfs, that I place at bronze intentionally, then get all the way to masters? Why can so many streamers and youtubers do this as well, why can other smurfs do this?

    The reason is pretty simple. If you are at a certain rank, you belong there. So focus on what you can do to improve your own play, encourage teams to work together and boost team morale.
    Sure thing bub, not like it's a team game or anything, and nah I am not toxic in game unless ignorant fools like you are in my team........it takes a team to win, but my guess is you come from Call of Duty or some shit where working as a team is a foreign concept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelimbror View Post
    Pretty much the truth. Here is a typical Moira loss in comp:



    Sure, it's Moira... But, when you have a Mercy and a full normal comp of tanks and DPS....what else is someone personally supposed to do? This is pretty much the definition of carried, minus the winning. And performing at this level, while it certainly reduced the points I lost down to 17, what if this happens over and over and over? B/c it does.

    If personal rank didn't matter I could have switched to DPS or Tank to try and alleviate our obvious weakness, but b/c Blizzard says Plat doesn't count...no point in switching. Just lock Moira all day every day and pray for Diamond.
    One of the reasons I keep saying she will get nerfed. Blizzard will severely reduce the amount of damage/healing her orbs, or reduce range/damage or beam, or reduce healing, or reduce Ult charge rate. Possibly a combination of all. Given the right Comp, she can outheal all other support, she can tag every enemy at a cap point, and she can 1v1 a lot of heroes.
    I'm interested to see if they change her orb more to be reflected off of barriers, both healing and damage orbs, much like Ana being fucked trying to heal her team that stand under a Winston bubble or they are behind Rein's shield.
    She's a great hero and I really like her playstyle, being able to move and be unpredictable, but I laugh at my stats at the end of every match because I have gold elims every game just from my orb tagging everyone my team kills, AND I'm still healing my team consistently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seefer View Post
    Sure thing bub, not like it's a team game or anything, and nah I am not toxic in game unless ignorant fools like you are in my team........it takes a team to win, but my guess is you come from Call of Duty or some shit where working as a team is a foreign concept.
    I guess you think it is all luck then.

    Last edited by Speaknoevil; 2018-01-06 at 04:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speaknoevil View Post
    I was accused of aimbotting three times today.

    2x on Hanzo, 1x on Widowmaker.

    Is it possible to aimbot on Hanzo with the way the bow works?
    Yes, bots for projectiles exist, they’re of the kind that are most likely to get picked up by Warden though rather than the more popular ones that track to the enemy outline colour. But those will also work at close ranges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    Doesn't change it's a subjective emotive reason.
    ok well let me know when every other hero in the game besides Junkrat can get practically 2 guaranteed picks (or in mercy's case, "un-picks") from basically spawn. Mercy is also the only hero in the game that creates un-picks and we already know how stupid RIP-Tire is.

    It's just way way way too much bullshit. She's practically invincible for 20 seconds, flying around at half the speed of light, is healing regardless of whether or not you are shooting her, chain healing/boosting practically her entire fucking team and can rez 2 people.

    There is not a single ultimate in the game that is this powerful.

    As for people wondering about mercy's viability afterwards: holy shit the entire reason she is getting nerfed in the first place is because she is SO MUCH BETTER THAN EVERY OTHER SUPPORT that she is literally a must pick for every game. She is going to be fine.

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    I was a bit over 3000 earlier, 2 seasons in a row. Then, last season I fell into 2750, and now this season I'm in ~2550. I really don't know what has changed that affects this. Really frustrating, I don't think I will play even placements anymore (I play comp just to know at what level I am overall), but this has really made me sad with the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foolsname View Post
    I was a bit over 3000 earlier, 2 seasons in a row. Then, last season I fell into 2750, and now this season I'm in ~2550. I really don't know what has changed that affects this. Really frustrating, I don't think I will play even placements anymore (I play comp just to know at what level I am overall), but this has really made me sad with the game.
    well the playerbase is always evolving; the diamond players of 2016 are not the same players they are in 2018.

    Personally, I don't feel like anyone has earned their rank until they have played 50 games at that rank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speaknoevil View Post
    I guess you think it is all luck then.

    More of a case of "Which team gets the worst team"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandrake View Post
    As for people wondering about mercy's viability afterwards: holy shit the entire reason she is getting nerfed in the first place is because she is SO MUCH BETTER THAN EVERY OTHER SUPPORT that she is literally a must pick for every game. She is going to be fine.
    I outheal her with Lucio and Moira, she is a sitting duck while rezing not in valk form (soon to be changed and she will be a sitting duck then too) unless she can actually get that Rein or Orisa to shield her, I agree valk mode needed the shorter length of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandrake View Post
    ok well let me know when every other hero in the game besides Junkrat can get practically 2 guaranteed picks (or in mercy's case, "un-picks") from basically spawn. Mercy is also the only hero in the game that creates un-picks and we already know how stupid RIP-Tire is.
    Widowmaker, Hanzo, Junkrat as you mention. Think I posted a video of me taking Anubis Point A on Widowmaker inside a minute, in which Mercy wouldn't get 2 resses.

    She's also very limited and fairly weak outside of her ultimate, her damage boost does not make up for the kind of damage that Moira or Zenyatta can put out on their own, meanwhile the latter has probably the second most powerful ult in the game in that rather than 2 'unpicks', he straight up prevents any picks from all but about 3 ults. Lucio too through Sound Barrier can and does prevent team wipes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandrake View Post
    ok well let me know when every other hero in the game besides Junkrat can get practically 2 guaranteed picks (or in mercy's case, "un-picks") from basically spawn. Mercy is also the only hero in the game that creates un-picks and we already know how stupid RIP-Tire is.

    It's just way way way too much bullshit. She's practically invincible for 20 seconds, flying around at half the speed of light, is healing regardless of whether or not you are shooting her, chain healing/boosting practically her entire fucking team and can rez 2 people.

    There is not a single ultimate in the game that is this powerful.
    Except all of what her ult does is gimped versions of other ults.

    Her healing during ult isn't going to save anyone from lethal damage/other ults, Zen/Lucio are far better for that.
    Her boost is 30% compared to Orisa's 50% boost.

    And that's working under the already false assumption that she's "unkillable".

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandrake View Post
    As for people wondering about mercy's viability afterwards: holy shit the entire reason she is getting nerfed in the first place is because she is SO MUCH BETTER THAN EVERY OTHER SUPPORT that she is literally a must pick for every game. She is going to be fine.
    Or...she's a "must pick" because the game heavily values those who pick attackers, and it's one of the most popular roles, so when people who normally play attackers are forced to heal, they pick the healer that has good healing output while requiring the least former knowledge of how to play her.

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    ok everyone, bastion does the most dps in the game.

    is he the best dps? no? k thx

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    If you are as good as you think you are, every team with you on it would instantly be the better team. xD

    I'm so tired of seeing people always blaming their team for their own level of sucking in this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandrake View Post
    ok everyone, bastion does the most dps in the game.

    is he the best dps? no? k thx
    That is honestly the worst comparison I've ever seen.

    Like, I'm not sure if I should even try to explain how bad it is...
    Bastion has stupidly large spread range when in turret mode. He's immobile and a sitting duck to death.

    He's not even an attacker for Christ's sake. This isn't even a comparison you should be making as a counter point, especially when nowhere did I say Mercy has the best output. Nowhere did anyone say that.

    This is just...out of all the responses I could have expected, this isn't the one. I would have expected something like "Well why don't they pick Soldier then instead" over this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    ...Roadhog's hook was never removed.

    You're proving Jessicka's point right.
    Hook dragging people around corners was removed, along with his ability to reliably one shot lower health targets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravex View Post
    Hook dragging people around corners was removed, along with his ability to reliably one shot lower health targets.
    And he received buffs after that, while still retaining his hook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speaknoevil View Post
    If you are as good as you think you are, every team with you on it would instantly be the better team. xD

    I'm so tired of seeing people always blaming their team for their own level of sucking in this game.
    Give me 6 of me and I'd wreck my way up to masters without problems. I don't understand how half of the people I play with even made it to diamond, they're playing like bronze players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    And he received buffs after that, while still retaining his hook.
    Sure, if you consider completely gutting an ability to be a shadow of its former self to be "retaining" an ability I don't have much to disagree with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    And he received buffs after that, while still retaining his hook.
    Roadhog is shit tier. If I see roadhog on the field when playing soldier it's free ult charge for me.

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