1. #7781
    So, just so I am caught up on the forums:
    People bit h when Widow is on their team still (for no good reason). I've had plenty of games where there's a Widow on my team, who does well and gets picks on every enemy push. I've also had games where we lost at hero select because people see Widow and go "that's it. Games over, I'm not trying!" I'm not saying I support Widow players, as most of my matches, both with and against, they aren't that good; however, I'm not going to throw in the towel at hero select just because I've had enough games that they surprise you. If they aren't getting picks or getting hard countered, I'll ask them to swap to something more useful.
    Next point: people still complaining about Mercy? Jesus, learn to aim a bit and maybe not let her Rez her teammate in full view of your team and get back out. Honestly, you know how many times I've been support on my team where we kill Rein (the ONLY enemy tank) just to watch my team spectate the Mercy swooping in to Rez Rein? All because they are trying to shoot the Junkrat hiding behind a wall. Honestly, so many of the Mercy complaints would just disappear if people knew how to prioritize targets. Here's a thought, just as an example, if you're on Junkrat and just "too good to switch," maybe build your Ult up, use it wisely, and pick off thatMercy with it? If you get more than her, that's a bonus. Then let me know how much you want to complain about her Rez being so damn OP when your team still fails even though she's dead.
    I also enjoyed seeing the arguement that Widow gives enemy support free Ult charge. Exactly what the fuck do you think you are doing as literally any other character that doesn't kill someone while hitting them?
    Seriously, some of the arguements people come up with are just laughable anymore.

  2. #7782
    so had an enemy tracer who glitched himself into the bell on hamamura and couldnt be attacked while tracer was killing everyone from our team
    needless to say we lost because of that shit
    I hope the player gets a perma ban
    he said we should chill and he is only "testing"
    he can do that shit in qp and not in comp

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    Quote Originally Posted by rarhyx View Post
    so had an enemy tracer who glitched himself into the bell on hamamura and couldnt be attacked while tracer was killing everyone from our team
    needless to say we lost because of that shit
    I hope the player gets a perma ban
    he said we should chill and he is only "testing"
    he can do that shit in qp and not in comp
    He can expect a lifetime ban for using that exploit. Blizz are seriously hard on people who use those things.

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    Just had the shock of my life. Finished placements 7-3, and placed 330 SR above where I finished in season 7. I placed 2150 and climbed to 2260 last season but I only played a handful of games after placements. I just got placed 2596. I always used to flex but now I just main Dva and I'm getting pretty good with her. I guess that helps.

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    Getting another smurf to 25 is a pain in the ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speaknoevil View Post
    Getting another smurf to 25 is a pain in the ass.
    I mean you shouldn't really be smurfing in the first place, so I'd say that's a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomzy View Post
    I mean you shouldn't really be smurfing in the first place, so I'd say that's a good thing.
    I needed an account where I only have time on Hanzo and I'm going to try to push GM with it. What is so bad about that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speaknoevil View Post
    I needed an account where I only have time on Hanzo and I'm going to try to push GM with it. What is so bad about that?
    Thought smurfing was against ToS. Probably wrong, but if not, I wouldn't blatantly put it out there that's what you're doing.

  9. #7789
    Quote Originally Posted by Eapoe View Post
    Thought smurfing was against ToS. Probably wrong, but if not, I wouldn't blatantly put it out there that's what you're doing.
    Smurfing isn't.

    Abusing/rigging ranking with comp is though, like when a streamer used subscribers to get his smurf placed at bronze so he can climb to GM as one character.

    So as long as they don't do that, and just place wherever they get placed, it will probably be fine. Unless it becomes another Torb only situation thing.

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    300SR gain in two days, 250 to go to get back where I was. Still hate how premades just destroy the MMR system, it simply can't handle them, they even admitted it causes such problems but still they persist in allowing such widely spread groups at low levels in spite of tightening it up at the top :/

  11. #7791
    Every team I have encountered today: 1 tank (me) 1 healer or no healers, constant bitching and moaning... not a single team wanting to win. Yep Overwatch does get worse with every season...
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    Quote Originally Posted by The King in Yellow View Post
    Every team I have encountered today: 1 tank (me) 1 healer or no healers, constant bitching and moaning... not a single team wanting to win. Yep Overwatch does get worse with every season...
    Because as the game continues and Blizzard keeps going with the current MMR people have started listening to, and learning about, the ways it works. As it stands, you're better off getting to know 2-3 heroes, and playing them nonstop for bigger gains and smaller losses. Damage is also highly preferred as the more damage and elims you get the more you gain and less you lose.
    As pointed out by one of the YouTube personalities I watch, on a KotH with Orissa and Bastion, Bastion will gain more SR simply because he's doing more damage than Orissa. Bastion will leave on a win with bigger SR gains than Orissa, and actually lower Orissa's gains because she's not getting the damage she usually does. Never mind the fact that without Orissa shielding and babysitting the Bastion that he potentially would be useless, Orissa suffers from it.
    That's something else not many people discuss when talking about MMR. With the current system, you are not only trying to overcome yourself and play better while trying to do better than everyone else who plays that map with that hero, you're also battling your own team, as that Bastion might be really good and hitting a lot of shots, which translates you to personally doing less for your personal gains.

  13. #7793
    People have been so abusive to me in quickplay today.
    Last edited by Speaknoevil; 2018-01-09 at 02:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speaknoevil View Post
    I needed an account where I only have time on Hanzo and I'm going to try to push GM with it. What is so bad about that?
    Its utterly toxic and quite frankly damaging to the game, but I doubt we'll change your view on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommo View Post
    Its utterly toxic and quite frankly damaging to the game, but I doubt we'll change your view on that.
    In what ways is it toxic or damaging to the game. Try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speaknoevil View Post
    In what ways is it toxic or damaging to the game, try.
    You're actively creating new accounts so you can burn through inexperienced players and lower rated players, which damages their enjoyment, doesnt improve the skill of anyone on your team and basically lets you trick the already crappy system for easier gains.

    Just play your normal account and if you have the time investment you'll get GM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommo View Post
    You're actively creating new accounts so you can burn through inexperienced players and lower rated players, which damages their enjoyment, doesnt improve the skill of anyone on your team and basically lets you trick the already crappy system for easier gains.

    Just play your normal account and if you have the time investment you'll get GM.
    I have no intention of placing low, it is just so I can play the characters I want without "I SEE YOU HAVE SOME TIME ON MERCY OVER THE LAST YEAR. PLAY MERCY OR IM THROWING."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speaknoevil View Post
    I have no intention of placing low, it is just so I can play the characters I want without "I SEE YOU HAVE SOME TIME ON MERCY OVER THE LAST YEAR. PLAY MERCY OR IM THROWING."
    I would be surprised if thats truly as prevalent as your stating, dont get me wrong, ranked is full of toxic shitheads but communication is still a valid tool in these scenarios.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommo View Post
    I would be surprised if thats truly as prevalent as your stating, dont get me wrong, ranked is full of toxic shitheads but communication is still a valid tool in these scenarios.
    Happens enough. 1 in 5 games someone asks me to swap regardless of good stats / playtime. Before the game has even started.
    Last edited by Speaknoevil; 2018-01-09 at 03:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommo View Post
    I would be surprised if thats truly as prevalent as your stating, dont get me wrong, ranked is full of toxic shitheads but communication is still a valid tool in these scenarios.
    honestly man ranked is such a lost cause at this point but its hard to be mad at anyone but blizzard because it's their fault. a lot of people have a lot of good reasons for playing comp the way that they do which contributes to the degradation of the quality of matches made and blizzard just doesn't give a fuck about their feedback.

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