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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    I've noticed a propensity in quick play for the instalock hanzos and widows, lately.

    That's when I know it's going to be a bad game.
    i think this is how the story of a lot of us becoming competitive players starts

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    Terrible game, team sat back and waited for me to 1v6.

    I would get 2-3 picks, have to pull back to a health pack because healers are blind, they would just sit back doing fuck all while enemy came back. Retardation is real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    I've noticed a propensity in quick play for the instalock hanzos and widows, lately.

    That's when I know it's going to be a bad game.
    Yup pretty much same.

    Or insta-lock genji, but that can go either way. It happens in comp too though, especially hanzo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandrake View Post
    i think this is how the story of a lot of us becoming competitive players starts
    I don't even care about comp; I play my placements, place diamond, and am content with that each season.

    Usually I play quick play with friends, and it's getting really damn annoying to have the terribad hanzos/widows every single game. And the funny thing is there's usually a hanzo or widow on the enemy team that's actually fairly competent. Meaning I have to play Winston because no one else is going to do anything about them because our snipers kept getting killed by pharah or some nonsense.

    And a friend of mine and I can't "reserve" hanzo/widow at the start to ensure no one takes them because then all the other randos you get grouped with think you're throwing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomzy View Post
    Yup pretty much same.

    Or insta-lock genji, but that can go either way. It happens in comp too though, especially hanzo.
    I'd rather have a genji than a hanzo and I'd rather have a hanzo than a Widow.

    Genji can kill people with his ult and will at the very least form a distraction. Hanzo can at least accidentally kill people. A widow that can't aim isn't going to kill anyone, ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post


    I'd rather have a genji than a hanzo and I'd rather have a hanzo than a genji.

    Genji can kill people with his ult and will at the very least form a distraction. Hanzo can at least accidentally kill people. A widow that can't aim isn't going to kill anyone, ever.
    Yup I agree completely. Preaching to the choir my guy.
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    As a Shimada only player all I can say to you guys is.

    Only a Shimada can control the dragons.



    Man the dragon is really awakening today, even in the game I lost I was doing amazing. Sitting in midmasters on both accounts now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speaknoevil View Post


    Man the dragon is really awakening today, even in the game I lost I was doing amazing.
    So unlike a shimada player.

    Most of the Hanzo and Genji mains I have seen are very modest people :P
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    If I'm not on, I just log out, rather than tilt myself by seeing my poor play. Also..
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    Don't worry soon you can just use a sailboat, I hear those are pretty fuel-efficient :P
    This made me laugh, but I read it on mobile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speaknoevil View Post

    This made me laugh, but I read it on mobile.
    Flattery will get you nowhere, Shimada >:P
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    i hate how it is impossible to warm up anywhere but in comp

    so much fucking cheese and too many goddamn smurfs in arcade

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    Held my nose and went through placement. About 50% complete troll games.

    Wind up at the exact rank I finished last season at. Sigh.
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    They need to make an actual accurate stat card at the end of a game. I think it tilts me more when I have gold elims/objective kills/objective time/healing/damage as Moira then when I don't. Literally had all 5 at the end of a game.
    And before anyone starts, yes I was healing my team as well. End of the game I had more healing than the other Moira, the Ana, and the Mercy that played the game. My team just absolutely sucked.
    At one point, the enemy ran 1 tank. Rein left the choke to chase me as Moira, leaving his 5 teammates without a shield (who still held my team from the door) and I called out to 76 to use his Ult since the enemy had no shield. He held onto it and then used it shortly after Rein got back and only killed 1 person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    I've noticed a propensity in quick play for the instalock hanzos and widows, lately.

    That's when I know it's going to be a bad game.
    Always been the case, they’re popular heroes, and even though Widow is almost as meta as Tracer right now, you still get so much shit for playing her that a lot of just use QP for the opportunity to do so without the abuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    Always been the case, they’re popular heroes, and even though Widow is almost as meta as Tracer right now, you still get so much shit for playing her that a lot of just use QP for the opportunity to do so without the abuse.
    Unfortunately a hero being "meta" doesn't make the person playing them good or useful. As I said, most widowmakes seem to be pretty terrible. Or they pick widow with absolutely no consideration for the enemy team and the widowmaker is spending the entire game putting shots into Orissa barriers while a Winston or d.va or tracer hunts her down. And of course they never switch, because instalock widows and hanzos never do.

    I often find when I wonder why we're losing and no one on the enemy team is dying I press tab and see a widowmaker on our team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Unfortunately a hero being "meta" doesn't make the person playing them good or useful. As I said, most widowmakes seem to be pretty terrible. Or they pick widow with absolutely no consideration for the enemy team and the widowmaker is spending the entire game putting shots into Orissa barriers while a Winston or d.va or tracer hunts her down. And of course they never switch, because instalock widows and hanzos never do.

    I often find when I wonder why we're losing and no one on the enemy team is dying I press tab and see a widowmaker on our team.
    If that was the case, Tracer, McCree and Genji mains would be on the end of so much shit as well because their performances at mid ranks are similar. Widow being undertuned for 12 months just deeply ingrained this negativity towards her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    Always been the case, they’re popular heroes, and even though Widow is almost as meta as Tracer right now, you still get so much shit for playing her that a lot of just use QP for the opportunity to do so without the abuse.
    remember when attack bastion was a troll pick before orissa was put in the game? some people actually still think he's a troll pick lol. but i think widow players are just always going to get that because she is either very impressive or very underwhelming and can really trip up the pace of your group.

    also shit like this is how i got my mmr adjusted to masters when the last time i bought a new account. Don't you love it when your team just sits there and basically watches you pull off a quintiple kill and carry them to a win instead of pulling the thumb out of their ass and actually helping?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    If that was the case, Tracer, McCree and Genji mains would be on the end of so much shit as well because their performances at mid ranks are similar. Widow being undertuned for 12 months just deeply ingrained this negativity towards her.
    I wouldn't be negative towards widowmaker if the people playing her didn't pick her with no regards to team comp and then proceed to do nothing with her all game except plug body shots into d.va's mech. If a person is being effective i don't care who they are. But people just by and large aren't effective playing her.

    As far as "mid ranks" I can't speak to the general group MMR of my QP matches because I'm diamond ranked and my friends are holding ranked, but I'd assume that people at diamond rank have some general clue of how to play widow if they want to play her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    I wouldn't be negative towards widowmaker if the people playing her didn't pick her with no regards to team comp and then proceed to do nothing with her all game except plug body shots into d.va's mech. If a person is being effective i don't care who they are. But people just by and large aren't effective playing her.

    As far as "mid ranks" I can't speak to the general group MMR of my QP matches because I'm diamond ranked and my friends are holding ranked, but I'd assume that people at diamond rank have some general clue of how to play widow if they want to play her.
    No different from Tracer and McCree mains, who just don't get any shit at all.

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    Not a bad morning. Played 3 games, won 2 and got a draw on my last one. Just happy the last game wasn't a loss. My whole team had problems, and that includes me. Already had support filled, and my standard damage heroes I played like crap. Couldn't hit anyone with a Junk grenade, couldn't get close enough or flank effectively as Reaper, couldn't scare the enemy support as Tracer.
    My team wasn't much better. First round our Orissa kept throwing her shields in terrible places, our Rein never kept his shield up for more than a few seconds before running into the enemy swinging a hammer. Had a Pharah on my team that I think got her Ult twice over 12 minutes, and I only ever saw 1 person die from it. Not sure what they expected when the enemy ran double hitscan and DVa.
    Luckily, the other team was just as bad and we pulled a draw from it.
    Enemy had a Junk for their 2nd attempt at Defense. That fucker was pulling some shady shit, but who knows, maybe just a good player. Odd though that on Horizon when I'm upstairs and he lobs grenades, and I run back with 4 ways to go he threw more grenades thru the door at the perfect timing I was coming thru it. Not saying he/she was cheating, but definitely seemed odd and had me wondering. Could have just been really lucky and smart about it, knowing how long it takes (roughly) certain characters to make it somewhere. It's not unheard of.
    Oh well, overall fun morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    No different from Tracer and McCree mains, who just don't get any shit at all.
    I think this is mostly down to positioning, in that you can see the Tracer and McCree in the fight where it's easy to assume they are doing something. WM on the other hand will usually be in the rear where unless you're watching the kill feed, it can be easy to assume she isn't doing anything. Even with Hanzo you can see his sonic arrow or scatters.

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