So how are your games going lately? [megathread]

[agentsi]

Played Season 1-8 comp, stepped away because of how toxic people were becoming. Played a few games last night, and it's even worse.

Is this fairly normal at this point for the Overwatch community? I play Pharah almost exclusively, have had many diamond < rankings in the App. But also swap to Mei/Rein/Zen when we need to counter something or if they have hit scan players who are actually good.

Last night I was gold dmg/elim/obj elim, and silver on time in the 3 games I played as Pharah. And half the team bitched at me constantly because they had two hit scan heroes ( who I killed regularly, and only died to twice ). They went as far as starting to throw even after I solo cap'd a point with an ult, all because I wouldn't switch ( I wasn't dying ) when they thought I should.

Is this really how it goes now? If I don't play the hero my team thinks I should play, I get trolled.
Am I wrong for not switching even though the enemy hit scan heros did not slow me down or kill me?

No trolling here, honest questions about current gameplay and community. Not sure I want to jump back into comp if this is how its going to be.

PS. I generally float between 2100-2500, only breaching 3k once when I had a 6 stack that played regularly together.

[Tziva]

Is this fairly normal at this point for the Overwatch community? I play Pharah almost exclusively, have had many diamond < rankings in the App. But also swap to Mei/Rein/Zen when we need to counter something or if they have hit scan players who are actually good.

Last night I was gold dmg/elim/obj elim, and silver on time in the 3 games I played as Pharah. And half the team bitched at me constantly because they had two hit scan heroes ( who I killed regularly, and only died to twice ). They went as far as starting to throw even after I solo cap'd a point with an ult, all because I wouldn't switch ( I wasn't dying ) when they thought I should.

Is this really how it goes now? If I don't play the hero my team thinks I should play, I get trolled.
Am I wrong for not switching even though the enemy hit scan heros did not slow me down or kill me?

No trolling here, honest questions about current gameplay and community. Not sure I want to jump back into comp if this is how its going to be.

No, you weren't wrong to stay if the hitscans weren't hurting you, especially if it's a hero you play well. I'm of the mind that playing a less ideal hero that you're really strong at is better than playing a hero that is perfect for comp that you're not particularly good at. But frankly "they have hitscans" as a sole argument is pretty dumb. Maybe they do but they're bad. Maybe their better players are one that are easily countered by Pharah. Maybe it's a really strong Pharah map. There are so many relevant variables to comp that you really have to look at all of them. However, it is a team game so I feel like at some point if the entire team wants you to switch to something else, even if their reasoning isn't a very great one, it's worth considering for the sake of cooperation. If nothing else so you can say "things were going much better for us when I was playing Pharah, I would like to switch back."

As far as toxicity in general, in my experience, I've not noticed any kind of recent decline in the community. I'm not saying it's great, just that it is about as bad as its always been. If anything, my experiences in Overwatch seem marginally better than some other online team experiences, although the difference may be negligible. Also, to be fair, you can't really judge off of a few games in a row, because you're often playing with the same people on quick requeues who carry over their attitude from prior games. For that reason, when you have shitty experiences, you tend to have a bunch in a row until you take a breather, both because those people might be showing up repeatedly and also because one might be tilted from past negative interactions and reacting too defensively or quickly as a result. That's just my two cents on that.

[Jessicka]

“They have hitscans” is a terrible case for no Pharah, they have to be effective ones and a great many are not. Hell, I’ve regularly seen players go hit scan seemingly to deal with her and it still be left to Ana and/or me (on D.Va or Orisa) to actually deal with her.

Otherwise yeah, the community isn’t worth bothering with in game.

[Eapoe]

Just played a game with 4 damage mains, 3 of which were grouped players. Ended the game playing 2 rounds of Moira on Anubis and came out with 5 gold medals. Interesting time.

[ThatsOurEric]

Fuck this game for 2 reasons.

1 - Its complete bullshit that in an overtime game, both teams get their time
reset when in the last set of the second round, one team gets actual time on
the clock, compared to the other team capping via overtime (i.e. 0 time.) The
team with time should be the ONLY team to get a final chance.

2 - Keeping me still in this bullshit rank with further bullshit teammates. This
game is the fucking worst.

[Gouca]

I fell in love with the game a couple of years ago but the amount of hybrid classes introduced lately seems overwhelming and ruins the fun. Literally the same element that ruined WoW PvP back in the day. Then again certain DPS-classes have way too "easy & guaranteed kills" with their ultis such as Genji, Junk & Dfist.

• Doomfist damage completely out of control for the amount of movement and defense he has
• Brigitte damage insane for the utility she has with stuns, knockbacks, shield, movement and healing
• Moira burst DPS in another league compared to the original healers, whilst still outhealing them. Her aim-locking beam also WTF?

On the other hand things like Ana's lack of movement with zero defensive abilities sucks the fun out of the games. From a casual player's PoV my gameplay has very little impact on team performance with a tank or a healer. I main Rein, Lucio & Ana. I rarely get any appreciation and I'm forced off DPS with the amount of plain stubborn "insta lock DPS" -players that have a major impact in low ELO games. Also the geographical fact there are a billion Russians in our games makes communication occasionally a huge problem.

[ThatsOurEric]

Pharah getting buffs is one of the single most retarded decisions blizzard has ever done in regards to this game.

[seleri]

Had someone call pharah+mercy "cheese" earlier today. It's so much fun playing at shitty levels like gold/plat where no one can aim with hitscan lol

[Tziva]

Why is "avoid as teammate" only an optional while you're currently on a team with that person? Why can't I choose to avoid anyone I've encountered that seems shitty?

Played a game with some dude who made passive-aggressive comments all game, including scolding me (healing on brigette) for not killing the pharah (him and the guy he was grouped with had insta-locked sombra and soldier and were our only dps). It was a tough match but we won, yet he still made some snarky comment about it being a shocker that we did considering how bad we were. The next game, he was on my team again and continued to have his panties in a bunch all match about dumb shit. The third game put him on the other team and then he whined about them being bad in allied chat. Funny enough, the main reason they lost the match was because him and his friend both left the match and rejoined again after ~20 seconds right at a critical moment. It was enough time for us to steamroll through them and they never recovered.

At that point, I wanted to avoid him but it wouldn't give me it as an option since he wasn't on my team anymore.

My favourite part was that after that match, he threw a tantrum in the "waiting for players" skirmish because his team had picked too many snipers. IT WASN'T EVEN A REAL MATCH. I had to dequeue at that point before I ended up having to go another round of listening to his PMS.

Like, dude, go for a walk or something. You need to chill the fuck out.

[Jessicka]

Why is "avoid as teammate" only an optional while you're currently on a team with that person? Why can't I choose to avoid anyone I've encountered that seems shitty?

Played a game with some dude who made passive-aggressive comments all game, including scolding me (healing on brigette) for not killing the pharah (him and the guy he was grouped with had insta-locked sombra and soldier and were our only dps). It was a tough match but we won, yet he still made some snarky comment about it being a shocker that we did considering how bad we were. The next game, he was on my team again and continued to have his panties in a bunch all match about dumb shit. The third game put him on the other team and then he whined about them being bad in allied chat. Funny enough, the main reason they lost the match was because him and his friend both left the match and rejoined again after ~20 seconds right at a critical moment. It was enough time for us to steamroll through them and they never recovered.

At that point, I wanted to avoid him but it wouldn't give me it as an option since he wasn't on my team anymore.

My favourite part was that after that match, he threw a tantrum in the "waiting for players" skirmish because his team had picked too many snipers. IT WASN'T EVEN A REAL MATCH. I had to dequeue at that point before I ended up having to go another round of listening to his PMS.

Like, dude, go for a walk or something. You need to chill the fuck out.

You have to go through the social tab and recent players to click avoid there as for some reason.

[Tziva]

You have to go through the social tab and recent players to click avoid there as for some reason.

That's dumb, because I can right-click them in game and select it there when we're grouped. I don't understand why they would make it so that option disappeared after no longer being on the same team.

Good to know though, but still a dumb design.

[Twen]

That's dumb, because I can right-click them in game and select it there when we're grouped. I don't understand why they would make it so that option disappeared after no longer being on the same team.

Good to know though, but still a dumb design.

They stopped letting you to ignore enemies after people just blacklisted good players they didn't want to fight anymore and those people got longer queues as a result. Now if you're ignoring your own team mates it's probably because they're actually insufferable little gits, which is a more valid reason.

[Tziva]

They stopped letting you to ignore enemies after people just blacklisted good players they didn't want to fight anymore and those people got longer queues as a result. Now if you're ignoring your own team mates it's probably because they're actually insufferable little gits, which is a more valid reason.

Yeah, I remember that but that's a different thing. This feature actually does exist, just apparently is accessed in different places depending on whether you're in or outside a match with them. This isn't a true ignore, this just prevents you from getting grouped with a particular player on your team, but they can still be on the other team, and you're only allowed to put a few people on it at a time.

In match, if you right-click them on the game roster, where is "avoid this teammate" option on the drop down. Apparently after game you need to go into the social recent-players menu to do the same. But it is an option!

Mute/block also work if you don't want to hear them prattle on about whatever, but you'll still end up grouped with them if you just use that.

But yes as you said, there's no true ignore where you won't ever see that player again at all, for the reasons you mentioned.

[Natta Lmo]

try playing games... play 3 games... 5 throwers... wtf... why do they never ban these people?

[Twen]

Yeah, I remember that but that's a different thing. This feature actually does exist, just apparently is accessed in different places depending on whether you're in or outside a match with them. This isn't a true ignore, this just prevents you from getting grouped with a particular player on your team, but they can still be on the other team, and you're only allowed to put a few people on it at a time.

In match, if you right-click them on the game roster, where is "avoid this teammate" option on the drop down. Apparently after game you need to go into the social recent-players menu to do the same. But it is an option!

Mute/block also work if you don't want to hear them prattle on about whatever, but you'll still end up grouped with them if you just use that.

But yes as you said, there's no true ignore where you won't ever see that player again at all, for the reasons you mentioned.

I'm aware the option to avoid as team mates exists, during or after - I'm not sure what I said to imply otherwise, but eh.

[mqrtk]

why does this game still have the worst fucking hitboxes after almost 3 years ??????

Oh look i shot 50m above your head... Headshot

[Advent]

They stopped letting you to ignore enemies after people just blacklisted good players they didn't want to fight anymore and those people got longer queues as a result. Now if you're ignoring your own team mates it's probably because they're actually insufferable little gits, which is a more valid reason.

I actually miss ignore player. Some people are so good that they make my playing experience worse. I can't fight them, they find me and kill me FIRST, and I can't do anything about it. It happens often enough that I quit the game for several months earlier this year. It's beginning to occur with frightening frequency, and it's extremely frustrating. Ignore Player would keep me from having to play against certain types of players, and I miss it.

[Tziva]

I'm aware the option to avoid as team mates exists, during or after - I'm not sure what I said to imply otherwise, but eh.

Sorry, you replied to my statement about Avoid as Teammate with a statement about ignore player, so it sounded like you were confounding the two. I'm sorry if I misunderstood.

why does this game still have the worst fucking hitboxes after almost 3 years ??????

Oh look i shot 50m above your head... Headshot

It's probably not the hitboxes themselves that are dumb, it's how the game chooses to process them. It does hit detection client side rather than server side, which is uncommon. But it was a conscious decision by the design team I think which unfortunately means it's unlikely to change.

(I'm assuming its related to that, anyway, because the hitboxes seem normal if you shoot at stationary targets in the training grounds to find their outline.)

[Jessicka]

Projectiles in this game are pretty big, so they’re fairly forgiving and it leads to some weird animation effects.

The player models themselves are pretty sharp for hitscans.

[Twen]

Sorry, you replied to my statement about Avoid as Teammate with a statement about ignore player, so it sounded like you were confounding the two. I'm sorry if I misunderstood.

No problem, I don't think I was very clear about it in the first place there... I might've had it more in my head than in the actual text, sorry.

On topic, what gave me a scare during this event was the notion that the season ends in a week, and I haven't done placements...