1. #9821
    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    I'll be interested to see his response to the reply after his. Same main? Different main? Flex accounts? Time input per account? Too many variables and too little info to draw any useful conclusions.

    For sure different playstyles are required in different ranks, my alt dropped into gold recently and holy hell do I need to play conservatively, apparently chasing kills and forcing staggers is now considered 'overextending' by most of gold. Guess we'll sit on cart and have 3 more team fights than necessary.

  2. #9822
    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    Saw this and thought of you:
    Quote Originally Posted by Kharadin View Post
    I'll be interested to see his response to the reply after his. Same main? Different main? Flex accounts? Time input per account? Too many variables and too little info to draw any useful conclusions.

    For sure different playstyles are required in different ranks, my alt dropped into gold recently and holy hell do I need to play conservatively, apparently chasing kills and forcing staggers is now considered 'overextending' by most of gold. Guess we'll sit on cart and have 3 more team fights than necessary.
    Did the post get deleted? The link isn't working for me.

  3. #9823
    Quote Originally Posted by Thirza View Post
    Did the post get deleted? The link isn't working for me.
    Yeah it did. Basically some guy complaining that he's in masters on 1 account out of 6, and that somehow means the MMR system is bad. Literally no other info.

  4. #9824
    Quote Originally Posted by Kharadin View Post
    Yeah it did. Basically some guy complaining that he's in masters on 1 account out of 6, and that somehow means the MMR system is bad. Literally no other info.
    Mercy main trying to play Genji and stuff while not bothering with comms because they are on alts, got it.

    Thanks for the recitation.

    In my experience more than holding people back the MMR system in Overwatch persistently lets people go on luck streaks and put them far higher than they belong because their isn't enough focus on defining a metric for performance.

  5. #9825
    Quote Originally Posted by Thirza View Post
    Mercy main trying to play Genji and stuff while not bothering with comms because they are on alts, got it.

    Thanks for the recitation.

    In my experience more than holding people back the MMR system in Overwatch persistently lets people go on luck streaks and put them far higher than they belong because their isn't enough focus on defining a metric for performance.
    That was my line of thinking. I'm okay with the performance increased SR gains being a bit scuffed, the more benefit of the doubt people get to get into diamond the better, gold and low plat games are just so far from real games of Overwatch that the less time spent there for people who really wanna git gud the better.

  6. #9826
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    Quote Originally Posted by Girighet View Post
    I've never seen 3 tanks and 3 healers.
    Please, do not take offense, but have you lived under a rock? This is by far the strongest meta and the most common from Plat to GM.

    And
    Like 90% of all contenders games are goats meta.
    The world cup was also almost only goats meta.

    Even with reaper buffs and various nerfs, goats meta is still the strongest in the game.

    Overwatch League season 2 will start with goats meta.

    And it's litterally 50% of all competitive games and I'm at 3k too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Girighet View Post
    I've played 8 games today, all have been 222. Played 6 yesterday and 5 were 222 and one was 4 dps and 2 healers.
    Well, we can't forget the hype of recent patches with buffs and nerfs etc. People are hyped to play these heroes and are overall tired of goats.

    I am sick of goats too. And yes, goats are weaker in diamond than higher ranks, so you might be right, it might have decreased, I have only done a few games, saw 1 goats in 3 games.

    But from what I learned, from watching the pros and hearing them talk about it, as well as various expert channels on youtube (who are really well read), goats is still the strongest meta in Masters and GM and will be on the pro scene. I am not at that level of course, and lets hope your streak of non-goats will be the new standard at this level.

  8. #9828
    Sensationalist idiots trying to get more views on their youtube channels are still bitching about reaper, when he needs a mobility buff and head hitbox adjust to be viable still.

    I haven't been killed by a reaper yet, if my team is having trouble with one I just play Widow, Hanzo or Ashe and he can barely leave spawn.

    Anything that can outrange him soft counters him, anything with a knockback or cc ability hard counters him.
    Last edited by Thirza; 2019-01-27 at 05:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thirza View Post
    Sensationalist idiots trying to get more views on their youtube channels are still bitching about reaper, when he needs a mobility buff and head hitbox adjust to be viable still.

    I haven't been killed by a reaper yet, if my team is having trouble with one I just play Widow, Hanzo or Ashe and he can barely leave spawn.

    Anything that can outrange him soft counters him, anything with a knockback or cc ability hard counters him.
    Tell that to his 63% Masters win rates.

  10. #9830
    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    Tell that to his 63% Masters win rates.
    It is just a pharah situation.

    The lower you are the better she is.

    Which is a shame because she is my favorite hero.
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    I have games on my alts where I get 3-5ks and my team somehow manages to lose to the remaining low HP enemies while I get a health pack.
    Last edited by Thirza; 2019-01-28 at 09:03 AM.

  11. #9831
    Finally dragged my sorry arse out of silver into gold! #feelsgood.

    Might have had just a lucky streak, but feels like I haven't had too many morons recently.

  12. #9832
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thirza View Post
    It is just a pharah situation.

    The lower you are the better she is.

    Which is a shame because she is my favorite hero.
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    I have games on my alts where I get 3-5ks and my team somehow manages to lose to the remaining low HP enemies while I get a health pack.
    Pharah is pretty shit at low levels now since her rework, the global hitscan range buff, and now Ashe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    Pharah is pretty shit at low levels now since her rework, the global hitscan range buff, and now Ashe.
    Even playing at masters, I hate her. I hate how I can hear the sound of tracers footsteps across half the map but the pharah coming from above with a god damned jetpack to ulti you makes less noise than tracers footsteps.

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    As a casual player that has played since launch, I can honestly say the game has gone to crap pretty much. There are way too many heroes with cc that are always played in competitive. It's boring as hell playing competitive. And arcade is getting worse by the week. All the high ranking try-hards hang out in arcade, making it not fun for casual players. Also, the number of hackers in arcade is ridiculous, and blizzard does not care about it at all. They only seem to care about competitive(mostly).
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  15. #9835
    When I get through a match they go well. But for whatever reason, I get my capture software caused my game to crash. I have no capture software. OW crashed my graphics driver please update. I'm on the most recent driver. Even rolled back to multiple different ones, and still crashes about every third game.

  16. #9836
    Wife and I just started playing again. Been pretty fun. New heroes seem pretty decent, Ashe is fun.

    Teams have been pretty meh, but then again we're coming back from a long absence, so it's not like we're awesome, either. So eh.

  17. #9837
    Weirdly I have found my games playing as support going suprisingly well lately... well, if people kill the Reaper that is.
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  18. #9838
    I think that a lot of teams don't have the braincells to play without a reinhardt.

    I was in a low masters game, playing hammond the genji and i dive, kill four, the rest of the team is just kind of sitting in choke still doing nothing, acting confused, then we have to retreat from the remaining two and their team gets back and we lose the fight.

  19. #9839
    Quote Originally Posted by Thirza View Post
    I think that a lot of teams don't have the braincells to play without a reinhardt.

    I was in a low masters game, playing hammond the genji and i dive, kill four, the rest of the team is just kind of sitting in choke still doing nothing, acting confused, then we have to retreat from the remaining two and their team gets back and we lose the fight.
    I've only been playing again for a couple days and yeah...I had forgotten that getting people to coordinate for a push is probably the hardest part of pugging.

    Surely I'm guilty of not pushing when the time is ripe, too. Still, it's frustrating when you wait for everyone, get ults up, get a pick or two, and then tell your team, "They're down two, lets go!!" and move in, only to die a horrible death and realize that the rest of your team is still hiding around the corner taking potshots at the point.

  20. #9840
    I was just silenced on an alt for abusive chat and I literally never talk on that except maybe to say gg. XD

    Nice automated system.

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