1. #9901
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    I understand working as a team in the game, but no single event in this world will ever convince me to play a tank, mercy or lucio. I don't care that nobody else picked tank, I refuse to play that shitty role.

  2. #9902
    Quote Originally Posted by Kharadin View Post
    Glad to see this thread is still "reee my team are bad so I lose SR" vs. reasonable people.

    People who climb have to put up with teammates doing silly things too, btw. The difference being they can deal with that behaviour and pull out more Ws than those who screech about hero picks and get hardstuck in plat.
    the higher you go the less fun this game gets

  3. #9903
    Quote Originally Posted by redf View Post
    the higher you go the less fun this game gets
    I'd disagree, lower ELOs are just clusterfucks of people running around shooting, the higher your SR gets the closer your games are to actual games of Overwatch.

  4. #9904
    Quote Originally Posted by Kharadin View Post
    I'd disagree, lower ELOs are just clusterfucks of people running around shooting, the higher your SR gets the closer your games are to actual games of Overwatch.
    The problem is getting up there, since the game fucks you over with some of the shitty teammates you get.

    Tried to climb today for several hours, only to have the reverse happen. Now I have to climb another thousand SR
    just to get back to where I was the day before. Didn't help having dps players who couldn't shoot the wall, let
    alone some terrible tanks who never contest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsOurEric View Post
    The problem is getting up there, since the game fucks you over with some of the shitty teammates you get.

    Tried to climb today for several hours, only to have the reverse happen. Now I have to climb another thousand SR
    just to get back to where I was the day before. Didn't help having dps players who couldn't shoot the wall, let
    alone some terrible tanks who never contest.
    Imagine saying someone is not a team player and then complaining about consistently losing and being uanble to rise in SR and then blaming everyone else but yourself. I wonder who is not a team player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsOurEric View Post
    The problem is getting up there, since the game fucks you over with some of the shitty teammates you get.

    Tried to climb today for several hours, only to have the reverse happen. Now I have to climb another thousand SR
    just to get back to where I was the day before. Didn't help having dps players who couldn't shoot the wall, let
    alone some terrible tanks who never contest.
    No, you would have a higher SR if you were a better player. Maybe you should work on that.

  7. #9907
    Quote Originally Posted by Kharadin View Post
    No, you would have a higher SR if you were a better player. Maybe you should work on that.
    Maybe you should work on what you erroneously think is correct. (Pst, it isn't.)

    If you're a healer and you've got said shitheads, ya can't outheal through stupid. Likewise if you're tanking,
    you can't protect every moron who doesn't listen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jinro View Post
    Imagine saying someone is not a team player and then complaining about consistently losing and being uanble to rise in SR and then blaming everyone else but yourself. I wonder who is not a team player.
    You mean like how you've blamed your deranking in the past because of leavers, trolls, and the like?

    Besides, this has nothing to do with being a team player. Unlike you, I will work with the team, but their
    skill levels tend to vary. It doesn't take "skill" however, to know when to switch roles and to be flexible
    and help your team out if they need you to. Which YOU seem to have a very hard time grasping.
    Last edited by ThatsOurEric; 2019-04-08 at 03:18 AM.

  8. #9908
    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsOurEric View Post
    (Standard denial)
    Say what you want, you won't change my mind. Your SR is low because you're not very good, if you want to improve it, get better. Screeching about your team always being bad just makes it more obvious that you're bad at Overwatch.

  9. #9909
    I think a lot of the perceptions in this thread come from being able to see other people's bad gameplay but not one's own.

    Right now I have 3 active accounts. Silver/Gold for playing with some australian friends. On this I do a few things to make it less obscenely unfair for the enemy team. I play silly heroes and turn the reticule off. Diamond/Masters for being a bastion 1 trick. My main account still hardstuck.

    Platinum is by far the most toxic bracket and by far the most muddied and wildly variable in the skill of the people there. This is in my experience because the people there are not consistent or have some critical deficit in their gameplay that might not cost them the game or round sometimes then is demolished another. So they say to themselves, "I don't know why I'm losing, I'm playing the same as I always do." They are simply unaware of whatever skill they do not have.

    I find all of diamond and all of masters to be the most enjoyable brackets; there is usually teamwork and a decent comp but not forced into cookie cutter nonsense or some godlike widowmaker ruining everyone's lives.

  10. #9910
    Quote Originally Posted by Kharadin View Post
    Standard hypocrisy
    Pure ignorance. Just pure pathetic ignorance. Already explained why you're wrong a thousand times,
    just look back if you want what I said before.

  11. #9911
    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsOurEric View Post
    Continued denial.
    Don't get upset, you can get better, you just need to accept that you are bad and need to improve. I can help if you want, I managed to get into Diamond on both my off-tank and support accounts. Are you still stuck in silver? Would you like some advice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsOurEric View Post


    You mean like how you've blamed your deranking in the past because of leavers, trolls, and the like?

    Besides, this has nothing to do with being a team player. Unlike you, I will work with the team, but their
    skill levels tend to vary. It doesn't take "skill" however, to know when to switch roles and to be flexible
    and help your team out if they need you to. Which YOU seem to have a very hard time grasping.
    Funny how I don't stay there even if I'm annoyed by drops but you do stay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsOurEric View Post
    Pure ignorance. Just pure pathetic ignorance. Already explained why you're wrong a thousand times,
    just look back if you want what I said before.
    I've gone from gold to masters over the seasons. Why can't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinro View Post
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    I think if he changes his attitude and focuses on improving he can get good. But the former is quite a difficult step if you're so convinced it's your team letting you down (which is a statistically invalid argument).

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    Hell l I'd like some tips for improving. I don't even really care about getting out of silver I just want to be more consistent and reliable in the support/dps role.

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    5 pages later, Jinro still showing IG toxic behavior...

    Game is fine, on the other hand that thread is plain garbage
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    nazi is not the abbreviation of national socialism....
    When googling 4 letters is asking too much fact-checking.

  16. #9916
    Quote Originally Posted by Advent View Post
    Hell l I'd like some tips for improving. I don't even really care about getting out of silver I just want to be more consistent and reliable in the support/dps role.
    Try Jayne on Twitch, the guy's an amazing coach. Between him and the Overwatch/OverwatchUniversity pages on Reddit, that's where I pick up the majority of my information. Other than that it's just practice, practice, practice.

    If on the off-chance you're an Ana player, ML7 is also an amazing source of information. Especially video of him on Jayne's stream.

  17. #9917
    Quote Originally Posted by Kharadin View Post
    Trolling
    I'm not Masters or anything close to the above rank after that, but I am not bad. Not nearly in the
    same vein as other players I've been unfortunate enough to find.

    As for your offer, perhaps you should put the wasted energy you spent in whatever that pathetic display was and
    actually look up the problems people have with the system.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jinro View Post
    Funny how I don't stay there even if I'm annoyed by drops but you do stay.
    Luck certainly plays a big factor. You are much luckier. Although going by your word, and considering
    how selfish of a player you are, you'll excuse me if I don't buy the rank you're saying you are either.

    I've gone from gold to masters over the seasons. Why can't you?
    If that is at all true, it depends a lot on luck as well as what role you play. I mostly play Tank/Support, so
    if my team sucks, there's not much I can do. If you mainly play dps, you can take your team much farther.
    Last edited by ThatsOurEric; 2019-04-11 at 06:57 AM.

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    They really should implement some kind of vetting for people using voice chat. I've suffered ear rape 5 times today due to people having shit microphones. Holy shit, if you're going to use a microphone then buy one that doesn't cost less than a meal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsOurEric View Post
    Luck certainly plays a big factor.
    No, it doesn't. Skill is what is the factor here.

  19. #9919
    Quote Originally Posted by Kharadin View Post
    I'd disagree, lower ELOs are just clusterfucks of people running around shooting, the higher your SR gets the closer your games are to actual games of Overwatch.
    goats goats goats goats goats goats goats goats goats goats

    no thanks

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    Skill certainly plays a factor. The other, is luck. As in the quality of teammates you get.

    Even the pros state that a lot of MM is based on luck.

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