1. #10401
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    Almost master rated tank player picking dva into doomfist, mei and sigma. Blames the team because he keeps dying because he can't DM their stuns/freezes. GREAT REPRESENTATION OF SKILL THERE.

  2. #10402
    The only thing I've encountered has been thankfully, very few outright terrible healers. Most of them are competent enough.

    DPS on the other hand, Jesus fucking Christ. Too many games where I'm tanking that I end with gold eliminations AND
    damage. If I'm healing or tanking, the dps is almost 100% of the time the one area that fucks the game over.

    Every time I log on, another fucking streak of games where I lose significantly more than win.

    Role Que's given me games way worse than before at least before it'd sometimes lie to me with some wins before hittin'
    me upside the head with the shitty teammates. Now it's a lot more honest and just throwing them at the get go.
    Last edited by ThatsOurEric; 2019-08-23 at 06:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsOurEric View Post
    The only thing I've encountered has been thankfully, very few outright terrible healers. Most of them are competent enough.

    DPS on the other hand, Jesus fucking Christ. Too many games where I'm tanking that I end with gold eliminations AND
    damage. If I'm healing or tanking, the dps is almost 100% of the time the one area that fucks the game over.

    Every time I log on, another fucking streak of games where I lose significantly more than win.

    Role Que's given me games way worse than before at least before it'd sometimes lie to me with some wins before hittin'
    me upside the head with the shitty teammates. Now it's a lot more honest and just throwing them at the get go.
    You are one of the most angry people on this forum, complaining about bad players in 99% of your posts.
    Can you please link you gametag so I can check you stats?

    If you don't want to link it, then PM me it.

  4. #10404
    The matchmaking is too reliant on your other team mates.

    I tanked straight from 2900 after placement to 1600ish because I've taken a liking to Moira. I can either kill everyone or keep everyone alive, but if I'm not doing enough healing my team just die and if I'm not doing enough damage, the people who pick DPS seem to be silver CSGO players. It's just dumb. Then you call someone shit and they insta report you then you get silenced for a week. If people are shit they need to be told they're shit so they either stop playing or solve the problem. Right now the game is just full of a bunch of ignorant cunts that don't want to learn or correct their ways. Losing 80% of my games because people pick torb/bastion on attack against a Phara is just a joke.

  5. #10405
    Quote Originally Posted by JessicaJones View Post
    The matchmaking is too reliant on your other team mates.

    I tanked straight from 2900 after placement to 1600ish because I've taken a liking to Moira. I can either kill everyone or keep everyone alive, but if I'm not doing enough healing my team just die and if I'm not doing enough damage, the people who pick DPS seem to be silver CSGO players. It's just dumb. Then you call someone shit and they insta report you then you get silenced for a week. If people are shit they need to be told they're shit so they either stop playing or solve the problem. Right now the game is just full of a bunch of ignorant cunts that don't want to learn or correct their ways. Losing 80% of my games because people pick torb/bastion on attack against a Phara is just a joke.
    If all the DPS you think are shit stopped playing or got better, you'd have no one to play with. Not being toxic will also help, people generally play better when they're not tilted by asshats in voice.

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    Step one is to understand that you are not placed in platinum because of bad team mates.
    Step two is to understand that you are not a grandmaster player with bad luck.
    Step three is to understand that you can improve you own game.
    Step four is to understand that if you were better then your team mates you would be higher ranked.
    Step five is to undetstand that you actually suck.

  7. #10407
    Well, I just got a team AGAIN that doesn't know that you can't just let a bastion setup and sit back. Really don't understand why People just don't get this. Like I get 1 in 20 teams that will play dive or something similar to stop a Bastion. The rest are like "Yes, let's set up here and try to fight him with shields!" And of course, now with role lock I can't switch to Sombra to stop him.

  8. #10408
    Quote Originally Posted by JessicaJones View Post
    The matchmaking is too reliant on your other team mates.
    That's the biggest issue with Role Que that I'm having. Unlike before, you could ask one of your teammates
    to swap with someone, or yourself, so you could play their role if they weren't cutting it.

    Now, you're essentially stuck. If they can't hack it, you're pretty much fucked.

    Quote Originally Posted by DotEleven View Post
    Well, I just got a team AGAIN that doesn't know that you can't just let a bastion setup and sit back. Really don't understand why People just don't get this. Like I get 1 in 20 teams that will play dive or something similar to stop a Bastion. The rest are like "Yes, let's set up here and try to fight him with shields!" And of course, now with role lock I can't switch to Sombra to stop him.
    Yeah it never fails to surprise me that people still don't know how to play against Bunker, or Bastion in general.
    Kind of like how people don't know/aren't able to shoot down Pharah.

  9. #10409
    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsOurEric View Post
    That's the biggest issue with Role Que that I'm having. Unlike before, you could ask one of your teammates
    to swap with someone, or yourself, so you could play their role if they weren't cutting it.

    Now, you're essentially stuck. If they can't hack it, you're pretty much fucked.



    Yeah it never fails to surprise me that people still don't know how to play against Bunker, or Bastion in general.
    Kind of like how people don't know/aren't able to shoot down Pharah.
    It's great because I can take care of a Pharah. I can do decently on Widowmaker. But people seem to think that Widowmaker should be able to take down Pharah while being rocketed by Pharah, flanked by the other DPS and having Sigma shove a shield in her face. All the while my team loses the other fight. But "It's Widowmakers fault"

  10. #10410
    Quote Originally Posted by DotEleven View Post
    It's great because I can take care of a Pharah. I can do decently on Widowmaker. But people seem to think that Widowmaker should be able to take down Pharah while being rocketed by Pharah, flanked by the other DPS and having Sigma shove a shield in her face. All the while my team loses the other fight. But "It's Widowmakers fault"
    There should always be at least 2 people killing off Pharah. Unless the Widow is extremely god-like, having two people that can
    put pressure on her is the safest, best thing to do.

    If your team wasn't willing to help, then that's a shitty team.

  11. #10411
    Absolutely horrible. Role Queue has made the game even worse for me... Constantly completely clueless DPS players not even capable of finishing of a literally 1% health healer. Nope, apparently shooting into a shield or a healing Roadhog has higher priority for them.

    Support and Tank players tend to do way better with the lock but holy jesus the amount of completely horrible and possibly boosted DPS is astronomical
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  12. #10412
    I can see that people have been absolutely spoiled by smurfs being on their team and giving them unrealistic expectations of what DPS should be capable of.

    Blame anyone other than yourselves, some mysterious arcana is why there are entire tiers of players above you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thirza View Post
    I can see that people have been absolutely spoiled by smurfs being on their team and giving them unrealistic expectations of what DPS should be capable of.

    Blame anyone other than yourselves, some mysterious arcana is why there are entire tiers of players above you.
    Ah yes, because getting an ult every 3 - 4 minutes is of course an unrealistic expectation or expecting them to do more DPS than the healers who are both doing about 8K healing per round, yep. Not to mention not expecting a Genji to completely use his blade on Zarya shield is also too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thirza View Post
    I can see that people have been absolutely spoiled by smurfs being on their team and giving them unrealistic expectations of what DPS should be capable of.

    Blame anyone other than yourselves, some mysterious arcana is why there are entire tiers of players above you.
    Like the smurf issue has gone away.

  15. #10415
    so funny how they destroyed the Core part of this Game within 1 Patch just cuz they are too incompetent to nerf 3-3 lineups

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    Like the smurf issue has gone away.
    As much as I dislike role lock there is less smurfing.

  17. #10417
    Never lost so many games

    90% of them we lost to just being out played. As in outplayed because each of them were better and more skilled. Not because we had donkeys on our time. OW is so much more fun now as a result. I really don't mind losing and I've placed back at my highest rating can't complain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thirza View Post
    I can see that people have been absolutely spoiled by smurfs being on their team and giving them unrealistic expectations of what DPS should be capable of.

    Blame anyone other than yourselves, some mysterious arcana is why there are entire tiers of players above you.
    Nah, when you are doing 35%+ damage of the team by yourself, then other people are slacking off. I've ended up with 45-50% sometimes. I expect more of people at the same SR as me. They need to make personal performance matter a lot more.

    Same when healing and you've healed like 50% of the teams damage taken.
    Last edited by Empte; 2019-08-25 at 05:59 PM.

  19. #10419
    Quote Originally Posted by Empte View Post
    Nah, when you are doing 35%+ damage of the team by yourself, then other people are slacking off. I've ended up with 45-50% sometimes. I expect more of people at the same SR as me. They need to make personal performance matter a lot more.

    Same when healing and you've healed like 50% of the teams damage taken.
    That is not how Overwatch works.
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    I have ended winning games on Ana where 5-8k healing is 50% of team damage taken. Or games on Sombra with no damage medal and like 30 solo eliminations. Raw numbers is not what determines a win or a loss, it is a lot more nuanced than that.
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    Zenyatta and tanks often have the highest damage out because their targets require being hit more / are constantly hitting, or the DPS are getting elims so fast that their overall damage is low.

  20. #10420
    Quote Originally Posted by Thirza View Post
    That is not how Overwatch works.
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    I have ended winning games on Ana where 5-8k healing is 50% of team damage taken. Or games on Sombra with no damage medal and like 30 solo eliminations. Raw numbers is not what determines a win or a loss, it is a lot more nuanced than that.
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    Zenyatta and tanks often have the highest damage out because their targets require being hit more / are constantly hitting, or the DPS are getting elims so fast that their overall damage is low.
    Pretty sure I know what you are trying to point out, but your examples you listed to show raw numbers don’t mean anything are, in fact, examples of raw numbers helping to win the game.

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