1. #10681
    I fucking hate Zarya. Not as much as SPamfist or Echo, but she's third.

    She's just DPS with tank stats. I consistently fail to see how she's balanced in any way.
    "It's 2013 and I still view the internet on a 560x192 resolution monitor!"

  2. #10682
    How retarded is Blizzard you ask?

    Just look at Echo and that ult of hers. And she was released with them thinking she was "balanced."

  3. #10683
    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsOurEric View Post
    How retarded is Blizzard you ask?

    Just look at Echo and that ult of hers. And she was released with them thinking she was "balanced."
    I’ll be honest, I play in gold as a tank and plat as support and I really haven’t had too many issues with players using her so far. That said, she definitely seems like she has potential to be crazy in the right hands.

  4. #10684
    They are trash. Coming back from a two year hiatus and the whole ranking system is still as busted as before. SR being meaningless because it doesn’t punish being an OTP / feeding enough, matchmaking is therefore crap. I’m sick of seeing insta lock Zens to heal a Winston / Roadhog combo, like I’m sick of seeing Genji / Tracer combos against Echos / Orisas / Pharahs and such.

  5. #10685
    Pretty damn fun. Practicing hitscans and reaper in qm queues. Sometimes ranked. Sometimes go off role just to get to know it. Is nice.

  6. #10686
    Quote Originally Posted by Eapoe View Post
    I’ll be honest, I play in gold as a tank and plat as support and I really haven’t had too many issues with players using her so far. That said, she definitely seems like she has potential to be crazy in the right hands.
    Then you haven't been playing against any good ones.

    Her ultimate is absurdly overpowered. She only needs what, 3-5 hits in any form to get an ult. Which is beyond broken.
    Secondly, if that form isn't killed right away, she can get another one off after the first one. I've had one Echo get 3
    Earthshatters before losing that form. THREE.

    That's beyond incompetent to release a character with that level of power.

  7. #10687
    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsOurEric View Post
    Then you haven't been playing against any good ones.

    Her ultimate is absurdly overpowered. She only needs what, 3-5 hits in any form to get an ult. Which is beyond broken.
    Secondly, if that form isn't killed right away, she can get another one off after the first one. I've had one Echo get 3
    Earthshatters before losing that form. THREE.

    That's beyond incompetent to release a character with that level of power.
    She's extremely easy to shut down, though.
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  8. #10688
    Quote Originally Posted by Asrialol View Post
    She's extremely easy to shut down, though.
    If they'd actually allow her counters to be playable, sure.

    It's when she gets her ult (which is absurdly fast), that she isn't.

  9. #10689
    Definitely think she shouldn't get the HP of the Hero she copies, maybe gain 100 shields for a total of 300. Would make playing a Tank against her much less of a pain and encourage her to go after the DPS/Supports rather than flank/copy Rein/Zarya and spam Shatters and Gravs nonstop.
    "It's 2013 and I still view the internet on a 560x192 resolution monitor!"

  10. #10690
    She should just morph and demorph while keeping %hp the same, it’s ridiculous that she can drop to 2hp, morph into rein, shatter once or twice then go back to 200hp and cooldowns ready lmao

  11. #10691
    I've gotten plenty of loot boxes since Echo was released, but I haven't gotten a single Echo spray/voice line/victory pose/etc. What's up with that?

  12. #10692
    Quote Originally Posted by Explicit Teemo Nudes View Post
    I've gotten plenty of loot boxes since Echo was released, but I haven't gotten a single Echo spray/voice line/victory pose/etc. What's up with that?
    No clue. I’ve gotten a lot of them since her release, even though I’m still missing some early color outfits for characters like McCree and Sym.

  13. #10693
    Welp, the "less toxicity" atmosphere of Overwatch is definitely gone now. A much larger amount of
    my placements (which went absolutely HORRIBLY) had quite a lot of toxic players.

  14. #10694
    According to the new matchmaking I'm a better dps than healer lol, nevermind that the all my rating peaks (nothing crazy, 4k a couple of seasons) were from playing support.

    I think the MM compromises heavily now with 2/2/2, and supports suffer most because of it in terms of rating, and holy shit the queue times for dps. I'd like to see them move the game to a 1/3/2 format since clearly there are not as many tanks as there are dps/supports.

  15. #10695
    Quote Originally Posted by Thelxi View Post
    According to the new matchmaking I'm a better dps than healer lol, nevermind that the all my rating peaks (nothing crazy, 4k a couple of seasons) were from playing support.

    I think the MM compromises heavily now with 2/2/2, and supports suffer most because of it in terms of rating, and holy shit the queue times for dps. I'd like to see them move the game to a 1/3/2 format since clearly there are not as many tanks as there are dps/supports.
    Only one tank will just lead to even less tanks.

  16. #10696
    Quote Originally Posted by Explicit Teemo Nudes View Post
    Only one tank will just lead to even less tanks.
    Well unless it is HALF, it can't be worse than what we have now.

    But I don't agree with you at all. I think that if the game were adjusted to single tanks, which would take considerable tuning, actual tank players would probably enjoy getting all the glory and authority if anything. If it deters sigma and orissa players that don't understand that ana should be behind them from "tanking", good.

  17. #10697
    Back to the troubles from multiple seasons ago. Last season went well for me. Finished Plat in both support and tank.
    This season coming back to people refusing to swap to counter or swap when being countered hardcore.
    Think I might have to take a bread for a week or 2 until placements are done and people have a chance to climb or fall out of my bracket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thelxi View Post
    Well unless it is HALF, it can't be worse than what we have now.

    But I don't agree with you at all. I think that if the game were adjusted to single tanks, which would take considerable tuning, actual tank players would probably enjoy getting all the glory and authority if anything. If it deters sigma and orissa players that don't understand that ana should be behind them from "tanking", good.
    As you said to the other person, I have to disagree.
    Having only 1 tank brings up a lot of troubles. People getting yelled at because they don’t pick Rein is going to be the #1 issue ever. Already people bitch at teammates for not having a main tank when there’s an Orissa or Sigma in group, and you want people to go down to 1?
    They would get all of the blame for a loss. Rein shield breaking as he’s the sole target and people yell that you don’t walk forward. Pick any tank other than Rein or Orissa and have people yell that they’re losing solely because they don’t have a shield.
    The list goes on with examples of how this could backfire.
    1 tank might get rid of some problems, but it just brings in much more with even more toxicity:

  18. #10698
    Quote Originally Posted by Eapoe View Post
    s you said to the other person, I have to disagree.
    Having only 1 tank brings up a lot of troubles. People getting yelled at because they don’t pick Rein is going to be the #1 issue ever. Already people bitch at teammates for not having a main tank when there’s an Orissa or Sigma in group, and you want people to go down to 1?
    They would get all of the blame for a loss. Rein shield breaking as he’s the sole target and people yell that you don’t walk forward. Pick any tank other than Rein or Orissa and have people yell that they’re losing solely because they don’t have a shield.
    The list goes on with examples of how this could backfire.
    1 tank might get rid of some problems, but it just brings in much more with even more toxicity:
    Before agreeing or disagreeing with something, you might want to put some effort into understanding what it is you are agreeing or disagreeing with first. If the game were to transition to 1/3/2, the game would be changed considerably to facilitate that. Think Brig changes when 2/2/2 was introduced and imagine similar changes for tanks this time. I'd use the word obviously, but clearly not.

  19. #10699
    Quote Originally Posted by Thelxi View Post
    Before agreeing or disagreeing with something, you might want to put some effort into understanding what it is you are agreeing or disagreeing with first. If the game were to transition to 1/3/2, the game would be changed considerably to facilitate that. Think Brig changes when 2/2/2 was introduced and imagine similar changes for tanks this time. I'd use the word obviously, but clearly not.
    Funny how you talk about understanding while failing to do just that.
    There will be no glory for a solo tank. Regardless if people complain about no shield or complain because the tank can’t pull the damage if, for instance, Hog becomes some solo meta tank.
    This means that any time someone picks off meta then that person gets bitched at. It becomes even more apparent as with 2/2/2 it leaves some leeway for the offtank or non meta picks; but, people still complain about that as well.
    Brig was also changed, read: nerfed, around that same time. It wasn’t due solely to the fact of the change to 2/2/2. Also, before preaching about how I’m wrong or have no understanding, keep in mind your own argument works against you when you point out how something changes due to a meta change. You use a rig and then fail to understand that Brig is mostly sidelined due to other picks right now. She’s also one of the first support to get complained about when picked right now.

    So please, before critiquing my argument, look at your own and realize that it works against your side of the debate more than against mine.

  20. #10700
    Quote Originally Posted by Eapoe View Post
    Funny how you talk about understanding while failing to do just that.
    There will be no glory for a solo tank. Regardless if people complain about no shield or complain because the tank can’t pull the damage if, for instance, Hog becomes some solo meta tank.
    This means that any time someone picks off meta then that person gets bitched at. It becomes even more apparent as with 2/2/2 it leaves some leeway for the offtank or non meta picks; but, people still complain about that as well.
    Brig was also changed, read: nerfed, around that same time. It wasn’t due solely to the fact of the change to 2/2/2. Also, before preaching about how I’m wrong or have no understanding, keep in mind your own argument works against you when you point out how something changes due to a meta change. You use a rig and then fail to understand that Brig is mostly sidelined due to other picks right now. She’s also one of the first support to get complained about when picked right now.

    So please, before critiquing my argument, look at your own and realize that it works against your side of the debate more than against mine.
    To be clear, you are saying I am failing to understand my own and entirely subjective opinion of how the game could evolve. What I am saying to you is that you fail to understand that the game has and will change significantly to facilitate change.

    What you are whining about is irrelevant. If Blizzard were to go for 1/3/2, all tanks will be changed to be capable of very similar things. Just like Brig now is capable of actually healing. Hopefully this drills hard enough to penetrate you because this is the last time I paraphrase it for you. If you have more snark and ignorance for me though, I got all day.

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