Doesn’t this, in turn, force someone else to play that role? By refusing to play what the team needs you are, in a very real technical sense, making someone else swap for the team.
Now, I’m not saying you or they are right or wrong, but this shows some of the issues with the game and why I have since stopped playing. The game is very fun, but a problem with the game is the role issue. Many successful team based games that are FPS don’t have actual, rigid roles, and instead focus on everyone playing the same role.
It’s just silly that to win consistently and push rank, that a certain team comp or Meta is required, and it’s good to say you won’t be forced into playing one of those roles except the one you want, but you have to realize that what you are doing is forcing someone else into that role. Before the arguements come out of “but, but, but I’ve played 5 damage and we’ve won,” (not necessarily you specifically) keep in mind I’ve also seen this happen and I’ve won on teams with 4 support and 2 tanks; but, those games are few and far between.
So you’ve climbed all the way to diamond and masters with everyone always picking what they want? You’ve climbed with a multitude of your games being 4 support with 2 damage or 6 damage or 4 tanks with 2 damage? Or do your games mostly involve you picking what you want and someone else changing to fill in what the team needs? Are you saying they always do that because they want to play that role? Is it just possible they are forced into doing it to go for a win since you are refusing to?
Also, please don’t twist my words around. I didn’t state “meta only.” You can clearly see what I wrote, which discussed team comp and winning consistently, not just a meta team comp.
I’m sorry if BiS sounds antagonistic as that is not my goal, just trying to point out that you refusing to pick something to help the team generally leads to someone else having to swap. More than likely, it’s not something they want to do.
Last edited by Eapoe; 2019-03-29 at 09:48 PM.
how the fuck can you even enjoy this shit game anymore.... 1 game in months all my team needs to do is grouping up and we WIN.... they go 1 by 1 for the whole fucking 6minutes we had left
and the worst part... it was a 5 man stack
took me only 3 games to deinstall it again.. wow
Last edited by redf; 2019-03-29 at 07:05 AM.
So what can the OW team do about people going in 1 by 1? I mean they can't control everything the players do that is "making the game" shit.
I'm down like 400 sr this season just in the past week or so. My teams keep getting cucked and tilted, and end up playing like shit last push.
Its not about forcing people to play what they don't want to play, it's about understanding (which you don't)
that this is a ******team***** based game, which means that you must work together with your team in
order to win.
Your selfish attitude of playing what you want and only what you want is itself, very toxic. Because you are
being immediately selfish, unreliable, and unwilling to work with your team.
I've started games as one role and switched to others if the team needed it or asked, because I am a team
player. As much as I'd love to just play Torb all the time, I know that the character is weak on certain maps
and is weak against certain enemy comps. If I am not doing well in one role, I either try a different character,
or I ask a teammate if I could switch with them. Even if its not what I may personally want, in the end, I
want to win a lot more. There's always another match where I can try again. And if you have good teammates,
they'll do the same. In most games where this happens, I've generally won a lot more than I've lost.
This is how you should be playing, as opposed to being selfish. Those are the ones where I barely ever win, and
its easy to see that these types of players are the fuck sticks that end up costing your team the game.
For ex., if you only wanted to play Torb and that's that, your team now has to struggle to make a comp around a
hero that is at a massive disadvantage against the enemy comp. They ask you to switch to a different dps
to help, but you, being selfish, refuse to do so. As such, they are at a disadvantage, and your selfishness
breeds about toxicity among your team, because they have been paired with someone who is thinking only
of themselves, and is most likely going to blame them for sucking because they couldn't work with the hero
YOU picked.
That kind of attitude is one of the biggest problems with Ranked.
TL;DR, yeah, you really should not play Ranked. You clearly don't belong there.
I guess English must not be your first language if you read my post and somehow
epically failed in order to draw up that conclusion.
It has nothing to do with who you pick. It has to do with the attitude of "I'll pick what I
want when I want and fuck my team if they think differently."
If you pick something weird like say for ex., an attack Torb, I've had games where either
no one said anything, as they were confident enough with the pick, or if they did, I was
quick to assure them that I wanted to briefly (keyword there) try it, and if it was obviously
not working, I would swap to something else. At least 8/10 I've had this. Only very rarely
do I get the mouth-breather fuck face who devolves into an Asperger patient. And in that
circumstance, rather then risk tilting the idiot, I just comply. I'd rather win then make this
troll somehow throw the match. It sucks, but for the greater good and all.
That's also called being a team player btw.
In other words, "I have no good response, I lost badly, let me just repeat myself like a broken clock."
Got it, thanks.
Luckily for me I enjoy playing all the roles, and with many different heroes in each role.
I am also and have always been a team player, so I change and adapt to what the comp needs.
Since im adaptable like that and not a selfish one minded person thinking each game is about "me", but about my team, I get along just fine.
Sure, theres often toxic nutjobs in voice but I just ignore or silence them and move along.
Was about to say the same. In any comp game, switching at right time is very important which means you understand how the game flows. But in OW if you say someone they should switch, they consider that toxic and report you. That's pretty much how I got my permaban in OW yesterday. Blizz support guy said "you got too many reports for being abusive" but when he gave me the logs, it basically said "you gotta switch or we lose". Why the ban then? Cause I did not say anything homophobic or racist - he said you just were reported too often for abusive chat. Gotcha, thanks Blizz! You added another reason to stop playing now cause when you say something in comp (in text chat) it's already working against you as snowflakes can't handle it.
once a drood - always a drood!
TO FIX WOW:1. smaller server sizes & server-only LFG awarding satchels, so elite players help others. 2. "helper builds" with loom powers - talent trees so elite players cast buffs on low level players XP gain, HP/mana, regen, damage, etc. 3. "helper ilvl" scoring how much you help others. 4. observer games like in SC to watch/chat (like twitch but with MORE DETAILS & inside the wow UI) 5. guild leagues to compete with rival guilds for progression (with observer mode).6. jackpot world mobs.
Anyone else feel they are done with the game after the addition of baptiste?