[7.2] Legion Shadow Priest Guide and Discussion

[Helelos]

Wait, Dispersion can cancel out dying from Surrender to Madness?

[Elofyn]

Wait, Dispersion can cancel out dying from Surrender to Madness?

Yes, for whole whopping 6 seconds - it stops the insanity drain and thus Void Form cannot end while Dispersion is active. I'm not sure what happens if you have StM buff ending (3 mins after popping it) without being in Void Form and then you pop Dispersion, but it is strongly assume-able that you still die, horribly.

[mkultra55]

I'm having some issues getting Void Bolt working correctly in my Weak Aura Priority group and I wanted to see if anyone can help me figure out what I'm doing wrong.

I've tried using Action Usable and I've also tried using Cooldown Progress(Spell). Action Usable doesn't work at all since it acts as if Void Bolt is always available even out of Voidform or when the Spell is on CD. Cooldown Progress(Spell) works correctly the first time the spell is available after I enter Voidform but then never triggers again even when Void Bolt is available.

I assumed it had something to do with how Void Eruption changes to Void Bolt but converting my Triggers to Void Eruption only tells me when Void Eruption is available to put me into Voidform. It doesn't change to track Voidbolt afterward.

Any help would be appreciated.

[Fruujik]

Every single guide out there has their own Insanity building/sustainment rotation, what the fuck.

I`ll just ask it - how do I properly build my Insanity to 70 so that I can enter VE?

Mind Blast - Bender - VP - ST - MF as filler?

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Do I clip my MF when VB comes off CD?

[Gorsameth]

Every single guide out there has their own Insanity building/sustainment rotation, what the fuck.

I`ll just ask it - how do I properly build my Insanity to 70 so that I can enter VE?

Mind Blast - Bender - VP - ST - MF as filler?

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Do I clip my MF when VB comes off CD?

Yes, always stop MF when something else comes off cd, be it mindblast or voidbolt.

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I'm having some issues getting Void Bolt working correctly in my Weak Aura Priority group and I wanted to see if anyone can help me figure out what I'm doing wrong.

I've tried using Action Usable and I've also tried using Cooldown Progress(Spell). Action Usable doesn't work at all since it acts as if Void Bolt is always available even out of Voidform or when the Spell is on CD. Cooldown Progress(Spell) works correctly the first time the spell is available after I enter Voidform but then never triggers again even when Void Bolt is available.

I assumed it had something to do with how Void Eruption changes to Void Bolt but converting my Triggers to Void Eruption only tells me when Void Eruption is available to put me into Voidform. It doesn't change to track Voidbolt afterward.

Any help would be appreciated.

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That will show void bolt and track its cd but only does so when you are in voidform

And yes you need to use Void Eruption whenever you want to track Void Bolt, the spell itself does not work.

[Fruujik]

Yes, always stop MF when something else comes off cd, be it mindblast or voidbolt.

Okay but what about my opener to build 70 Insanity for Legacy talent?

I do MB-Bender-VP-SW:P-MF as filler-MB and about that time I`m good to go.

[Gorsameth]

Okay but what about my opener to build 70 Insanity for Legacy talent?

I do MB-Bender-VP-SW:P-MF as filler-MB and about that time I`m good to go.

I'm no expert but looks fine to me.

[Fruujik]

When MB and VD are about to come off CD at the same time, which one do I use first?

I think MB since VD has not cast and can be squeezed right in there.

[Gorsameth]

When MB and VD are about to come off CD at the same time, which one do I use first?

I think MB since VD has not cast and can be squeezed right in there.

I assume you mean Void Bolt?
Bolt first because it gives instant insanity and can buy you to time to cast MB,

[Fruujik]

I assume you mean Void Bolt?
Bolt first because it gives instant insanity and can buy you to time to cast MB,

Yeah, sorry meant Bolt.

But what if I already have high Insanity in that scenario? With MB first I can squeeze it in that GCD.

[Gorsameth]

Yeah, sorry meant Bolt.

But what if I already have high Insanity in that scenario? With MB first I can squeeze it in that GCD.

Squeeze what in? Void bolt is not off the gcd so MB>VB and VB>MB take the exact same time.

[Theed]

Oh, the old thread was locked

It was a great time guys. Already looking forward to test shadow in the next expansion.

[Ilir]

Oh, the old thread was locked

It was a great time guys. Already looking forward to test shadow in the next expansion.

You're leaving us ?

[Deleted]

Artifact channels outside of voidform, u think that was a case of Beta-ms or will that happend on live aswell?

[Theed]

You're leaving us ?

No!

But i will be less present in the forums i guess.

I'll try to find some time to write a shadow legion pvp guide or make a video.

[Ysgarthiad]

Probably a dumb question but is it a DPS loss to use dispersion for more voidform stacks?

[mkultra55]

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That will show void bolt and track its cd but only does so when you are in voidform

And yes you need to use Void Eruption whenever you want to track Void Bolt, the spell itself does not work.

Thanks! Works like a charm now.

[justflayin]

How many stacks of Insanity are folks getting?

I somehow managed to get 31 stacks with my poopy gear last night. I have no idea how. lol

[Gorsameth]

18-23 with the wrong stats on single target (18% haste, 19 crit, 67 mastery)

[Djriff]

Probably a dumb question but is it a DPS loss to use dispersion for more voidform stacks?

No, ideally you want to use it at the beginning of your Voidform cycle. Dispersion not only stops draining your insanity, but it also prevents the rate of drain from increasing with your increasing voidform stacks while dispersion is active. Ideally you want to use it right after you use VB for the first time in your Voidform cycle.

What trinkets are people going to use atm?

Also, is the phylactery a good choice? It has int and haste on it.

I'm using Iron Reaver Piston and RoW for ST, Orb of Voidsight otherwise.

How many stacks of Insanity are folks getting?

Without really trying 30-35 with 31% haste/crit. With StM I'm not sure, I've seen 70 before but the boss died and I still could have gone further I think.

Okay but what about my opener to build 70 Insanity for Legacy talent?

I do MB-Bender-VP-SW:P-MF as filler-MB and about that time I`m good to go.

There's been some math done that you actually want to wait until 85 Insanity with LotV to pop Void Eruption. I'm not sure on the specifics as simcraft isn't entirely working for me with the beta branch. Simmed me at 25k dps even though I was pulling 110k xD