[Legion - 7.2] Not's Demonology Guide

[SpikeySquad]

How reliable is PAWN for deciding on gear upgrades?

Depends on what numbers you put into it. Naturally it cannot calculate the strength of a proc or a set bonus.

[dalsand]

Yes it will be.

- - - Updated - - -

Almost fully updated for 7.1.5....

To do:

Trinkets
Extra rotations
Sim stack for talents

Hey Not, are you gonna stay Demo as mainspec in 7.1.5?

[SaberTJ]

Do we want Mark of the Claw enchant now instead of Satyr?

[Markuus]

Is it its worth switching to Impending Doom if you have the demo belt now?

[xuros]

Looks like impending dooms bugged. Without my doom time is 14 sec flat. With its 11.9.

[Dpartd]

Not, just wanted to say that I appreciate your time and effort helping the Warlock community...not sure where we'd all be without your guides and your WeakAura programming skills...

[Woz]

Looks like impending dooms bugged. Without my doom time is 14 sec flat. With its 11.9.

It is bugged in game right now, yes.

[Deleted]

It is bugged in game right now, yes.

I take it it reduces the base 20s duration before haste instead of after being modified by haste?

[Darkith]

I have the doom belt and impending doom is garbage. Barely takes any time off doom it must be bugged. I tested it out on several fights and improved dreadstalkers was significantly better. I won't be using impending doom until it gets fixed.

[Deleted]

Will we be using a different neck enchant now?

[Deleted]

Something i still don't see in the patchnotes and i did not find it by following this thread for a while:

Does Impending Doom reduce the Doom-Timer by 3 seconds before or after haste? After haste would be way better.

Nobody answered me, so now I'll answer myself :-)
It applies BEFORE haste, so it reduces the timer from 20 to 17 and 17 is then reduced by haste. Unfortunately it doesn't work at all and doesn't reduce anything.

[Deleted]

In your "our" new opener.
Even with 40% haste your not applying Doom till over 11sec with HoG.
Would it not be a bad idea to apply doom just after 0 on pull timer. Then .....as you guild.

Also I think it's going to be best to use fel special attack after DE (after summoning 2nd) to max that out.

[Deleted]

Is Hand of Doom STILL better than Power Trip on singletarget? Seems kind of ridicolous if it is.

[leaprah]

have been asked a couple time with no answer yet, and im not sure if that part of the guide was updated yet.
marke of the satyr or claw ?

[smokeytombs]

In simcraft I get 528K dps with satyr and 529K with claw single target. At 3 target I get 848K with satyr and 861K with claw.

[Dietrik]

Not is running mark of the claw.

[Wickedevil]

Just fyi...for those who think impending doom is bugged (maybe it is), but haste reduction is calculated after the talent (should be before, but sadly it's not)
formula is a simple 20/(1+x) where x is your haste percentage in decimal format (i.e. 30% = .3)
impending doom is simply (20-3)/(1+x), it is not (20/(1+x))-3
Higher haste, gets a reduced effect from impending doom. I assume that improved dreadstalker will be better, especially once you get 4pcT19
Here's a simple chart to show the second difference reduction is reduced as haste increases.
Haste No talent Talent Diff
0.0 20.000 17.000 3.000
0.1 18.182 15.455 2.727
0.2 16.667 14.167 2.500
0.3 15.385 13.077 2.308
0.4 14.286 12.143 2.143
0.5 13.333 11.333 2.000

[Lucrece]

Is Hand of Doom STILL better than Power Trip on singletarget? Seems kind of ridicolous if it is.

Do you really want to be in a position where you have to talent into ST or aoe and they are mutually exclusive? Because it's a far better situation that your best ST talent is also an AoE talent so you can compete with specs that have working baseline aoe instead of having to talent into it.

[Deleted]

Any idea on openr with Service ? i want to try it oute, got sindorei writs so im guessin i should pair Serivice with doomguard. But im still not sure how should i do opener for THC with this.

[Woz]

Just fyi...for those who think impending doom is bugged (maybe it is), but haste reduction is calculated after the talent (should be before, but sadly it's not)
formula is a simple 20/(1+x) where x is your haste percentage in decimal format (i.e. 30% = .3)
impending doom is simply (20-3)/(1+x), it is not (20/(1+x))-3
Higher haste, gets a reduced effect from impending doom. I assume that improved dreadstalker will be better, especially once you get 4pcT19
Here's a simple chart to show the second difference reduction is reduced as haste increases.
Haste No talent Talent Diff
0.0 20.000 17.000 3.000
0.1 18.182 15.455 2.727
0.2 16.667 14.167 2.500
0.3 15.385 13.077 2.308
0.4 14.286 12.143 2.143
0.5 13.333 11.333 2.000

Fwiw ID is bugged even taking this into consideration.

Tooltip for me says 12.3s but when I apply Doom it ticks after 14s.